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FBI VOL00009
EFTA00085291
390 pages
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22 1 that conversation, you know, she did inform Mr. Epstein 2 that she was a junior in high school and again she is 3 one of the girls that talks about being Mr. 4 Epstein's favorite, so because Mr. Epstein knew they 5 were friends they would engage in conversation about 6 IIIIIIII, and would mention they were in the same 7 classes at school and they would discuss the friendship 8 they had between the two girls with Mr. Epstein and 1 9 think that's it. 10 Q All right. If we could turn to the 11 post-indictment to overt act number 4 which appears on 12 page number S. 13 Did you obtain telephone records for Jane Doe 14 number 4? 15 A Yes. 16 Q And did you compare those with the phone 17 records of and others? 18 A Yes, I did. 19 Q And can you tell us with respect to overt act 20 number 4 what evidence you have related to that? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate that 22 there was telephonic contact between the numbers 23 belonging to and as well as 24 statements that would call her to make 25 appointments. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085511
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23 1 Q And if we could go through overt acts 6, 8, 9 2 and 11, all of which appear on page 6. 3 A A review of the phone records on May 3rd, 4 2004, may 14th, 2004, may 20th, 2004 and June 3rd, 2004, 5 a review of those phone records indicate that there was 6 telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 7 and as well as statements. 8 Q If I could take you acts 14, 15 and to overt 9 19 which appear on page 7. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A A review of the phone records on June 11th, 2004, June 20th, 2004 and July 10th, 2004, they indicate that there is telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to and Q And if I could ask you to turn to page 8 and if you could address overt acts 24 and 25. A A review of the phone records on July 18th, 2004 and July 22nd, 2004, a review of and hone records indicate there is telephonic contact belonging to both of them as well as tatements that would arrange appointments with her. Q If I could take you to page 9 of the draft proposed indictment and ask about overt acts 29 and 30. A A review of the phone records indicate there is telephonic contact on July 22nd, 2004 and August 4th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085512
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24 1 2 3 4 5 2004 between numbers as well as If I could indictment belonging to and statements. you to page 10 of the draft you about overt acts 37 and Q proposed 43. take and ask 6 A A review of phone records indicate telephonic 7 contact on August 25th, 2004 and October 3rd, 2004 8 between numbers belonging to and 9 10 Q And if you could turn to page 11 of the draft 11 proposed indictment and if you would address overt acts 12 47 and 48. 13 A A review of the phone records indicate 14 telephonic contact on October 30th, 2004 and November 15 4th, 2004 between numbers belonging to and 16 Fayth P, as well statements. 17 Q Okay. And if you could go to page 14 of the 18 draft proposed indictment and address overt act number 19 77. 20 A A review of phone records indicate that on 21 January 4th, 200 elephonic contact between 22 and as well as 23 statements. 24 Q I'm sorry. If you could turn to page 16 of 25 the draft proposed indictment and address overt act OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085513
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25 1 number 87. 2 A A review of the phone records indicate that on 3 January 22, 2005 there is telephonic phone contact 4 between numbers belonging to and and 5 I believe I said on January 22nd, 2005. 6 Q Okay. And if you could go to page 17 and 7 address overt act number 101. 8 A On February 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 9 records indicate that there was telephonic contact on 10 that day between numbers belonging to and 11 as well as statements. 12 Q If you could turn to pages 18 and 19 and if 13 you would address overt acts 106, 114 and 116. 14 A A review of the phone records indicate that 15 there is telephonic contact between and 16 on February 24th, 2005 as well as 17 statements. 18 Q Overt act number 114 says on March 18th, 2005 19 defendant prepared a written message to defendant 20 Epstein regarding Jane Doe number 4, could you tell the 21 Grand Jury what the evidence is related to that? 22 A we have a review of the message pads that were 23 recovered during the search warrant that the State 24 served that showed that wrote a message to 25 Epstein regarding and that was done on March 18th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085514
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26 1 2005. 2 3 said? 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 reads is it okay if 11 a question mark. 12 13 14 15 16 and 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Do you happen to remember what the message A I have those with me. Q would you mind getting them out? A Do you want to mark it? Q If you could just read it to the Grand Jury. A It is a message written by for Jeffrey on 3/18/2005, it looks like 4:21 p.m., and the message will come at 5:00 and there is Q And if I could direct you to overt act number 116, what the evidence is related to that. A A review of the phone records on march 29th, 2005 indicate that there is telephonic contact between as well as her -- statements. Q And if I could take you to overt act number 127 which is on page 20. A A review of phone records on April 11th, 2005 indicate that there is telephonic phone contact between the numbers belonging to and as well as statements. Q Now, if you could go to Count number 8, which alleges that between April 25th, 2004 and June 29th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085515
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27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 set up, 8 have 9 massage 10 well as 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2005 Jeffrey Epstein, enticed Jane Doe number 4 to engage in sexual activity or prostitution. A On or about these dates we have a facility of interstate commerce, specifically the telephones, and which were utilized to arrange massage appointments for Epstein, we taking upstairs to set up the table, she would set the massage table up as set up the lotions and the oils, we have during those massages Epstein would grab and pull closer to him as he masturbated, he repeatedly would ask her to remove her clothing, wearing her bra and underwear, Epstein would pull down her bra and grabbed at her breast, he attempted to touch he at one point but she stopped him, he masturbated, she believes that he ejaculated, he paid her 5200, he told her that he would pay her to bring her pretty friends and would pay her more if she would do more. Q And just so that this is clear to the Grand Jury, June 29th of 2005 is the day before Jane Doe number 4 turned 18, is that correct? A Yes. Q so was there activity that continued past her 18th birthday? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085516
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28 1 2 3 4 A Yes. Q If I could direct you to Count number 17, which appears on page 28, and tell us about the evidence related to that. 5 6 A we have evidence through flight records indicate on May 21st, 2004 that Epstein and that 7 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 8 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between and 9 the day before or the day of travel and we 10 11 have the sexual conduct between Epstein and described earlier in Count 8. as we 12 Q And if you could go through Counts 18 and 19. 13 A we have flight records that indicate on June 14 4th, 2004 Epstein and traveled to Palm 15 Beach County on the Gulfstream, we have telephone 16 contact between and the day before, 17 the day of travel , we have sexual conduct between 18 Mr. Epstein and as discussed earlier. 19 We have also Count 19 on June 20th, 2004 we 20 have flight records that indicate that Epstein and 21 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 22 727. 23 we have the telephone contacts between 24 and the day before, the day of travel, we 25 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085517
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29 1 2 3 as we described earlier in Count 8. Q Could you do the same for Counts 22 and 23, please. 4 A Count 22 we have flight records that indicate 5 on July 22nd, 2004 Epstein, 6 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 7 727, we have the telephonic phone contact between 8 and the day before or the day of travel, we 9 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 10 as we described earlier, and Count 23 we have 11 flight records that indicate on August 6th, 2004 Epstein 12 and traveled to Palm Beach County on the 13 Boeing 727, we have telephonic contact between 14 and I two days prior to Epstein and 15 traveling to Palm Beach County, we have sexual 16 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 17 described earlier. 18 Q And if you could do the same for Count number 19 28, please. 20 A Count number 28 we have flight records that 21 indicate on November 5th, 2004 Epstein, 22 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 23 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 24 and the day before or the day of travel, 25 we have the sexual conduct between Epstein and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085518
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30 1 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 35, 2 you testified previously about the people who were 3 aboard the plane. 4 was there also telephone contact on January 5 6th -- excuse me, shortly before the flight on January 6 6th, 2005 between and this Jane Doe? 7 A Yes, two days before. 8 Q And if you look at Count number 40, again, you 9 had previously told us about who was on board the plane. 10 Can you tell us whether there was also telephone contact 11 shortly before that? 12 A There was telephone contact the day of or the 13 day before. 14 Q All right. Between who and who? 15 A Between and . 16 Q Okay. And if you could look at Count 43, you 17 also had testified previously about who was aboard the 18 plane on that day. 19 was there also telephone contact between Jane 20 Doe number 4 -- excuse me, Jane Doe number 4 and 21 ? 22 A Yes, two days before. 23 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 52, 24 which is the sex trafficking offense, and if you could 25 summarize again for the Grand Jury the evidence related OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085519
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31 1 to that. 2 A we discussed in Count 8 the sexual conduct 3 that occurred between and Epstein during the 4 massages that took place, we talked about the money that S was paid to her by Mr. Epstein and the offer of more 6 money if she would do more as well as if she would bring 7 her friends. 8 Through statements we have also that 9 has paid her in the past for bringing a 10 friend, we have the phone activity between 11 and which started in April, 2004, we know 12 was 16 at the time, we also have phone activity between 13 and beginning in the spring of 2005 14 when would be 17, with the statements of and 15 the knowledge that Mr. Epstein knew their age, 16 and we have gone through that regarding informing 17 M . Epstein that she was a junior in high school , that 18 she was classmates with and then 19 statements that was concerned because she was 20 discussing prom with Mr. Epstein, and both girls at that 21 time of the phone calls were under the age of 18. 22 Q Just again so it is clear for the Grand Jury, 23 neither ever specifically said hey, 24 Jeffrey, I am 17, but they provided information that 25 should have caused him to try to figure out whether in OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085520
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32 1 fact they were adults? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Any questions about Jane Doe number 4 before 4 we turn to Jane Doe number 5? YeS, ma'am. 5 A GRAND JUROR: I have to say something here, 6 if it is a stupid question forgive me if it is, 7 from what I heard, maybe I heard wrong, there were 8 three to four massages that Jane Doe, or 9 said that she had and you enumerated quite 10 a few sexual contact. 11 How do you know about this, do you have 12 records, how do you know they were sexual contact? 13 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 14 A GRAND JUROR: She said she only had three to 15 four massages. 16 A GRAND JUROR: Her question is more like 17 there is 20 phone calls. 18 A GRAND JUROR: There is tons of them. 19 THE WITNESS: Exactly, that is what we were 20 discussing earlier when we discussed that there is 21 more than what is willing to admit at this 22 time. 23 A GRAND JUROR: I got it. So she said she 24 only had three to four. 25 A GRAND JUROR: There is a hundred phone OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085521
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33 1 calls. 2 A GRAND JUROR: You said you found out through 3 ■, I am a little bit confused about that. 4 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing M r she 5 stated that she had three or four massages from 6 Mr. Epstein. 7 BY 8 Q Special Agent the sexual activity 9 that you described that went through, that is what 10 she said happened during those three to four massages, 11 correct? 12 A Right. 13 Q Does that answer your question? 14 A GRAND JUROR: Not really. How do we know 15 like about all these 25, 30? 16 A GRAND JUROR: There is more dates that match 17 up with the amount of massages. 18 A GRAND JUROR: There were a hundred phone 19 calls. 20 A GRAND JUROR: Are we supposed to assume a 21 phone call was made each time they had sexual 22 contact? 23 THE WITNESS: No. There are lots of phone 24 calls made arranging appointments between the 25 girls, that doesn't mean that every phone call that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085522
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34 1 was made was a trip over to Mr. Epstein's house to 2 perform a massage. 3 Yes, ma'am. 4 A GRAND JUROR: Couldn't they put anything in 5 this indictment about stalking her, are there any 6 rules against stalking children? 7 : I will address -- that is a 8 legal question that I will address when the Special 9 Agent is outside of the Grand Jury. Any other 10 factual questions related? 11 A GRAND JUROR: I don't have a question 12 relating to Jane Doe number 4, it was a question I 13 asked last week, what does Mr. Epstein do for work, 14 how does he make his money? I asked that late, 15 late in the game last week. 16 MS. VILLAFANA: Okay, i guess we can just 17 address that now. 18 BY 19 Q what is Mr. Epstein's state of profession? 20 A He is an investor. 21 Q And he manages portfolios valued at about a 22 billion or more? 23 A Yes. 24 Q who is his best known client? 25 A The owner of the Limited and Victoria Secret. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085523
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35 1 2 3 4 Q And you mentioned that as gifts Mr. Epstein tended to give victoria Secrets panties and bra sets? A Yes. Q Does that answer the question? 5 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 6 Yes, ma'am. 7 A GRAND JUROR: Count 28 I thought I heard 8 that -- I thought I heard the detective say that it 9 was the Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 727 on 10 flight records, just for your info. 11 Count number 28, let's go back 12 there. 13 B1 14 Q Could you restate for the Grand Jury which 15 company owns the Gulfstream? 16 A The Gulfstream is owned by Hyperion Air, Inc. 17 Q And the Boeing is owned by whom? 18 A JEGE, Inc. 19 Q Any other questions before we go on to Jane 20 Doe number 5? we have four minutes. 21 special Agent why don't I ask you 22 to step outside so I can answer that question for the 23 Grand Jury and address some issues. 24 (The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 25 room.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085524
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36 1 (Questions posed by the Grand Jury.) 2 (The testimony of the witness was concluded 3 before the Grand Jury.) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085525
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37 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 4 5 I certify pages 2 through 36 are a true transcript of my 6 shorthand notes of the testimony of 7 efore the Federal Grand Jury, west Palm 8 Beach, Florida on the 15th day of Tuesday, 2007. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Commission Expires may 8, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085526
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1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH 3 4 5 6 7 8 IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 9 10 / 11 Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-WPB) 12 West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, May 15, 2007 13 14 15 TESTIMONY 16 OF 17 18 19 20 21 APPEARANCE: 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085527
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2 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 - - - 3 The sworn testimony of was taken 4 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 5 701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 6 State of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 7 , Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 8 Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 9 testimony. 10 Thereupon, 11 12 a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 13 the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 14 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 15 Q Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 16 and spell your name for the record. 17 A Special Agent 18 19 Q And with whom do you work? 20 A The FBI here in west Palm Beach. 21 Q And are you here today on the continuing 22 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 23 A Yes, I am. 24 Q And you are one of the case agents on this 25 investigation, correct? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085528
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3 1 A Yes, I am. 2 Q The last time you were here we were discussing 3 the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 4 related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Today we are going to start with 7 number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who 8 briefly your previous testimony about 9 summarize A Jane Doe number 3 is Jane Doe that is and her. and she first 10 11 started, we have first phone contact starting in December of 2004, with would have been 16 12 or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 13 would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 14 been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 15 phone contact, started calling her in 16 September of 2004. 17 From testimony we know that went there 18 earlier, much earlier. which was Jane Doe 19 number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 20 friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 21 to 17th birthday, so giving did start 22 Mr. massages when she was 16, she performed a Epstein 23 few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 24 little bit of a break. 25 The sexual activity that occurred with OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085529
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4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein when included was under the age of 18 the use of a vibrator on grabbing and fondling of her breasts and her buttock, she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was given a vibrator, she was given Victoria secret underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein rented for her for a number of months, she was paid S200 by Mr. Epstein and was the one that primarily called■ that began favorites, to set up appointments and as you can see in December of '04. was also one of Mr. Epstein's according to several of the other girls. Q Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does that translate into the number of phone calls between and that you were able to calculate? A called her, I guess calls between the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from December did tell 6th, 2004 until October, 2005. Q And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury Hier tell Mr. Epstein her age? A No, they did not ever discuss, she did not him how old she was, but she did tell him where she planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein didn't care. A5 I mentioned earlier, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085530