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that conversation, you know, she did inform Mr. Epstein 
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that she was a junior in high school and again she is 
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one of the girls that talks about 
being Mr. 
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Epstein's favorite, so because Mr. Epstein knew they 
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were friends they would engage in conversation about 
6 IIIIIIII, and 
would mention they were in the same 
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classes at school and they would discuss the friendship 
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they had between the two girls with Mr. Epstein and 1 
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think that's it. 
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Q 
All right. If we could turn to the 
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post-indictment to overt act number 4 which appears on 
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page number S. 
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Did you obtain telephone records for Jane Doe 
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number 4? 
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A 
Yes. 
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Q 
And did you compare those with the phone 
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records of 
and others? 
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Yes, I did. 
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Q 
And can you tell us with respect to overt act 
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number 4 what evidence you have related to that? 
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A review of the phone records indicate that 
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there was telephonic contact between the numbers 
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belonging to 
and 
as well as 
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statements that 
would call her to make 
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appointments. 
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Q 
And if we could go through overt acts 6, 8, 9 
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and 11, all of which appear on page 6. 
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A review of the phone records on May 3rd, 
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2004, may 14th, 2004, may 20th, 2004 and June 3rd, 2004, 
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a review of those phone records indicate that there was 
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telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 
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and 
as well as 
statements. 
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Q 
If I could take you 
acts 14, 15 and 
to overt 
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19 which appear on page 7. 
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11 
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A review of the phone records on June 11th, 
2004, June 20th, 2004 and July 10th, 2004, they indicate 
that there is telephonic contact between the numbers 
belonging to 
and 
Q 
And if I could ask you to turn to page 8 and 
if you could address overt acts 24 and 25. 
A 
A review of the phone records on July 18th, 
2004 and July 22nd, 2004, a review of 
and 
hone records indicate there is 
telephonic contact belonging to both of them as well as 
tatements that 
would arrange 
appointments with her. 
Q 
If I could take you to page 9 of the draft 
proposed indictment and ask about overt acts 29 and 30. 
A 
A review of the phone records indicate there 
is telephonic contact on July 22nd, 2004 and August 4th, 
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2 
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4 
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2004 between numbers 
as well as 
If I could 
indictment 
belonging to 
and 
statements. 
you to page 10 of the draft 
you about overt acts 37 and 
Q 
proposed 
43. 
take 
and ask 
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A review of phone records indicate telephonic 
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contact on August 25th, 2004 and October 3rd, 2004 
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between numbers belonging to 
and 
9 
10 
Q 
And if you could turn to page 11 of the draft 
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proposed indictment and if you would address overt acts 
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47 and 48. 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
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telephonic contact on October 30th, 2004 and November 
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4th, 2004 between numbers belonging to 
and 
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Fayth P, as well 
statements. 
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Q 
Okay. And if you could go to page 14 of the 
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draft proposed indictment and address overt act number 
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77. 
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A review of phone records indicate that on 
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January 4th, 200 
elephonic contact between 
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and 
as well as 
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statements. 
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Q 
I'm sorry. If you could turn to page 16 of 
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the draft proposed indictment and address overt act 
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number 87. 
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A review of the phone records indicate that on 
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January 22, 2005 there is telephonic phone contact 
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between numbers belonging to 
and 
and 
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I believe I said on January 22nd, 2005. 
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Q 
Okay. And if you could go to page 17 and 
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address overt act number 101. 
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On February 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 
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records indicate that there was telephonic contact on 
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that day between numbers belonging to 
and 
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as well as 
statements. 
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Q 
If you could turn to pages 18 and 19 and if 
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you would address overt acts 106, 114 and 116. 
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A review of the phone records indicate that 
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there is telephonic contact between 
and 
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on February 24th, 2005 as well as 
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statements. 
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Q 
Overt act number 114 says on March 18th, 2005 
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defendant 
prepared a written message to defendant 
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Epstein regarding Jane Doe number 4, could you tell the 
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Grand Jury what the evidence is related to that? 
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A 
we have a review of the message pads that were 
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recovered during the search warrant that the State 
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served that showed that 
wrote a message to 
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Epstein regarding 
and that was done on March 18th, 
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2005. 
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said? 
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5 
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9 
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reads is it okay if 
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a question mark. 
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and 
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Q 
Do you happen to remember what the message 
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I have those with me. 
Q 
would you mind getting them out? 
A 
Do you want to mark it? 
Q 
If you could just read it to the Grand Jury. 
A 
It is a message written by 
for Jeffrey 
on 3/18/2005, it looks like 4:21 p.m., and the message 
will come at 5:00 and there is 
Q 
And if I could direct you to overt act number 
116, what the evidence is related to that. 
A 
A review of the phone records on march 29th, 
2005 indicate that there is telephonic contact between 
as well as her --
statements. 
Q 
And if I could take you to overt act number 
127 which is on page 20. 
A 
A review of phone records on April 11th, 2005 
indicate that there is telephonic phone contact between 
the numbers belonging to 
and 
as well 
as 
statements. 
Q 
Now, if you could go to Count number 8, which 
alleges that between April 25th, 2004 and June 29th, 
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set up, 
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have 
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massage 
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well as 
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2005 Jeffrey Epstein, 
enticed 
Jane Doe number 4 to engage in sexual activity or 
prostitution. 
A 
On or about these dates we have a facility of 
interstate commerce, specifically the telephones, 
and 
which were utilized to 
arrange massage appointments for Epstein, we 
taking 
upstairs to set up the 
table, she would set the massage table up as 
set up the lotions and the oils, we have during 
those massages Epstein would grab and pull 
closer 
to him as he masturbated, he repeatedly would ask her to 
remove her clothing, wearing her bra and underwear, 
Epstein would pull down her bra and grabbed at her 
breast, he attempted to touch he 
at one point 
but she stopped him, he masturbated, she believes that 
he ejaculated, he paid her 5200, he told her that he 
would pay her to bring her pretty friends and would pay 
her more if she would do more. 
Q 
And just so that this is clear to the Grand 
Jury, June 29th of 2005 is the day before Jane Doe 
number 4 turned 18, is that correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
so was there activity that continued past her 
18th birthday? 
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Yes. 
Q 
If I could direct you to Count number 17, 
which appears on page 28, and tell us about the evidence 
related to that. 
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we have evidence through flight records 
indicate on May 21st, 2004 that Epstein and 
that 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
8 
Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 
and 
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the day before or the day of travel and we 
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have the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
described earlier in Count 8. 
as we 
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Q 
And if you could go through Counts 18 and 19. 
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we have flight records that indicate on June 
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4th, 2004 Epstein and 
traveled to Palm 
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Beach County on the Gulfstream, we have telephone 
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contact between 
and 
the day before, 
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the day of travel , we have sexual conduct between 
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Mr. Epstein and 
as discussed earlier. 
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We have also Count 19 on June 20th, 2004 we 
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have flight records that indicate that Epstein and 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 
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727. 
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we have the telephone contacts between 
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and 
the day before, the day of travel, we 
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also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey and 
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as we described earlier in Count 8. 
Q 
Could you do the same for Counts 22 and 23, 
please. 
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Count 22 we have flight records that indicate 
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on July 22nd, 2004 Epstein, 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 
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727, we have the telephonic phone contact between 
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and 
the day before or the day of travel, we 
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also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
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as we described earlier, and Count 23 we have 
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flight records that indicate on August 6th, 2004 Epstein 
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and 
traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
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Boeing 727, we have telephonic contact between 
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and I 
two days prior to Epstein and 
15 
traveling to Palm Beach County, we have sexual 
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conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
as we 
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described earlier. 
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Q 
And if you could do the same for Count number 
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28, please. 
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Count number 28 we have flight records that 
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indicate on November 5th, 2004 Epstein, 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
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Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 
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and 
the day before or the day of travel, 
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we have the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
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Q 
And if I could direct you to Count number 35, 
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you testified previously about the people who were 
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aboard the plane. 
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was there also telephone contact on January 
5 
6th -- excuse me, shortly before the flight on January 
6 
6th, 2005 between 
and this Jane Doe? 
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Yes, two days before. 
8 
Q 
And if you look at Count number 40, again, you 
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had previously told us about who was on board the plane. 
10 
Can you tell us whether there was also telephone contact 
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shortly before that? 
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There was telephone contact the day of or the 
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day before. 
14 
Q 
All right. Between who and who? 
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Between 
and 
. 
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Q 
Okay. And if you could look at Count 43, you 
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also had testified previously about who was aboard the 
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plane on that day. 
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was there also telephone contact between Jane 
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Doe number 4 -- excuse me, Jane Doe number 4 and 
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? 
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Yes, two days before. 
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Q 
And if I could direct you to Count number 52, 
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which is the sex trafficking offense, and if you could 
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summarize again for the Grand Jury the evidence related 
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to that. 
2 
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we discussed in Count 8 the sexual conduct 
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that occurred between 
and Epstein during the 
4 
massages that took place, we talked about the money that 
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was paid to her by Mr. Epstein and the offer of more 
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money if she would do more as well as if she would bring 
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her friends. 
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Through 
statements we have also that 
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has paid her in the past for bringing a 
10 
friend, we have the phone activity between 
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and 
which started in April, 2004, we know 
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was 16 at the time, we also have phone activity between 
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and 
beginning in the spring of 2005 
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when 
would be 17, with the statements of 
and 
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the knowledge that Mr. Epstein knew their age, 
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and we have gone through that regarding 
informing 
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M . Epstein that she was a junior in high school , that 
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she was classmates with 
and then 
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statements that 
was concerned because she was 
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discussing prom with Mr. Epstein, and both girls at that 
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time of the phone calls were under the age of 18. 
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Q 
Just again so it is clear for the Grand Jury, 
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neither 
ever specifically said hey, 
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Jeffrey, I am 17, but they provided information that 
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should have caused him to try to figure out whether in 
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fact they were adults? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
Any questions about Jane Doe number 4 before 
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we turn to Jane Doe number 5? YeS, ma'am. 
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A GRAND JUROR: I have to say something here, 
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if it is a stupid question forgive me if it is, 
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from what I heard, maybe I heard wrong, there were 
8 
three to four massages that Jane Doe, 
or 
9 
said that she had and you enumerated quite 
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a few sexual contact. 
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How do you know about this, do you have 
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records, how do you know they were sexual contact? 
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THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 
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A GRAND JUROR: She said she only had three to 
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four massages. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Her question is more like 
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there is 20 phone calls. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is tons of them. 
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THE WITNESS: Exactly, that is what we were 
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discussing earlier when we discussed that there is 
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more than what 
is willing to admit at this 
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time. 
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A GRAND JUROR: I got it. So she said she 
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only had three to four. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is a hundred phone 
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calls. 
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A GRAND JUROR: You said you found out through 
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■, 
I am a little bit confused about that. 
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THE WITNESS: Through interviewing M
r she 
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stated that she had three or four massages from 
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Mr. Epstein. 
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BY 
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Q 
Special Agent 
the sexual activity 
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that you described that 
went through, that is what 
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she said happened during those three to four massages, 
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correct? 
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A 
Right. 
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Q 
Does that answer your question? 
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A GRAND JUROR: Not really. How do we know 
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like about all these 25, 30? 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is more dates that match 
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up with the amount of massages. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There were a hundred phone 
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calls. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Are we supposed to assume a 
21 
phone call was made each time they had sexual 
22 
contact? 
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THE WITNESS: No. There are lots of phone 
24 
calls made arranging appointments between the 
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girls, that doesn't mean that every phone call that 
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was made was a trip over to Mr. Epstein's house to 
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perform a massage. 
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Yes, ma'am. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Couldn't they put anything in 
5 
this indictment about stalking her, are there any 
6 
rules against stalking children? 
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: I will address -- that is a 
8 
legal question that I will address when the Special 
9 
Agent is outside of the Grand Jury. Any other 
10 
factual questions related? 
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A GRAND JUROR: I don't have a question 
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relating to Jane Doe number 4, it was a question I 
13 
asked last week, what does Mr. Epstein do for work, 
14 
how does he make his money? I asked that late, 
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late in the game last week. 
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MS. VILLAFANA: Okay, i guess we can just 
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address that now. 
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BY 
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Q 
what is Mr. Epstein's state of profession? 
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A 
He is an investor. 
21 
Q 
And he manages portfolios valued at about a 
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billion or more? 
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A 
Yes. 
24 
Q 
who is his best known client? 
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The owner of the Limited and Victoria Secret. 
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Q 
And you mentioned that as gifts Mr. Epstein 
tended to give victoria Secrets panties and bra sets? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Does that answer the question? 
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A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 
6 
Yes, ma'am. 
7 
A GRAND JUROR: Count 28 I thought I heard 
8 
that -- I thought I heard the detective say that it 
9 
was the Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 727 on 
10 
flight records, just for your info. 
11 
Count number 28, let's go back 
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there. 
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B1 
14 
Q 
Could you restate for the Grand Jury which 
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company owns the Gulfstream? 
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The Gulfstream is owned by Hyperion Air, Inc. 
17 
Q 
And the Boeing is owned by whom? 
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A 
JEGE, Inc. 
19 
Q 
Any other questions before we go on to Jane 
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Doe number 5? we have four minutes. 
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special Agent 
why don't I ask you 
22 
to step outside so I can answer that question for the 
23 
Grand Jury and address some issues. 
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(The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 
25 
room.) 
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(Questions posed by the Grand Jury.) 
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(The testimony of the witness was concluded 
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 
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I certify pages 2 through 36 are a true transcript of my 
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shorthand notes of the testimony of 
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efore the Federal Grand Jury, west Palm 
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Beach, Florida on the 15th day of Tuesday, 2007. 
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Commission 
Expires may 8, 2008 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
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SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
WEST PALM BEACH 
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IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
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Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-WPB) 
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West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 
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TESTIMONY 
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OF 
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APPEARANCE: 
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PROCEEDINGS 
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The sworn testimony of 
was taken 
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before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 
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701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 
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State of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 
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, Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 
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Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 
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testimony. 
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Thereupon, 
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a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 
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the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 
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BY MS. VILLAFANA: 
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Q 
Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 
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and spell your name for the record. 
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Special Agent 
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Q 
And with whom do you work? 
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The FBI here in west Palm Beach. 
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Q 
And are you here today on the continuing 
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investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 
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Yes, I am. 
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Q 
And you are one of the case agents on this 
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investigation, correct? 
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Yes, I am. 
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Q 
The last time you were here we were discussing 
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the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 
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related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 
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Yes. 
6 
Q 
Today we are going to start with 
7 
number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who 
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briefly your previous testimony about 
9 
summarize 
A 
Jane Doe number 3 is 
Jane Doe 
that is and 
her. 
and she first 
10 
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started, we have first phone contact 
starting in December of 2004, 
with 
would have been 16 
12 
or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 
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would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 
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been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 
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phone contact, 
started calling her in 
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September of 2004. 
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From testimony we know that 
went there 
18 
earlier, much earlier. 
which was Jane Doe 
19 
number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 
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friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 
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to 
17th birthday, so 
giving 
did start 
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Mr. 
massages when she was 16, she performed a 
Epstein 
23 
few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 
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little bit of a break. 
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The sexual activity that occurred with 
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Mr. Epstein when 
included 
was under the age of 18 
the use of a vibrator on 
grabbing and fondling of her breasts and her 
buttock, she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was 
given a vibrator, she was given Victoria secret 
underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein 
rented for her for a number of months, she was paid S200 
by Mr. Epstein and 
was the one that primarily 
called■ 
that began 
favorites, 
to set up appointments and as you can see 
in December of '04. 
was also one of Mr. Epstein's 
according to several of the other girls. 
Q 
Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does 
that translate into the number of phone calls between 
and 
that you were able to calculate? 
A 
called her, I guess calls between 
the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from 
December 
did 
tell 
6th, 2004 until October, 2005. 
Q 
And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury 
Hier tell Mr. Epstein her age? 
A 
No, they did not ever discuss, she did not 
him how old she was, but she did tell him where she 
planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. 
She stated that when it came to her age that 
Mr. Epstein didn't care. A5 I mentioned earlier, 
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