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FBI VOL00009
EFTA00085291
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2 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 _ _ - 3 The sworn testimony of was taken 4 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 5 701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 6 State of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 7 , Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 8 Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 9 testimony. 10 Thereupon, 11 12 a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 13 the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 14 BY 15 Q Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 16 and spell your name for the record. 17 A Special Agent 18 19 Q And with whom do you work? 20 A The FBI here in west Palm Beach. 21 Q And are you here today on the continuing 22 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 23 A Yes, I am. 24 Q And you are one of the case agents on this 25 investigation, correct? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085491
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3 1 A Yes, I am. 2 Q The last time you were here we were discussing 3 the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 4 related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Today we are going to start with Jane Doe 7 number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who that is and 8 summarize briefly your previous testimony about her. 9 A Jane Doe number 3 is Vanessailland she first 10 started, we have first phone contact with 11 starting in December of 2004, would have been 16 12 or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 13 would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 14 been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 15 phone contact, started calling her in 16 September of 2004. 17 From testimony we know that went there 18 earlier, much earlier. which was Jane Doe 19 number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 20 friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 21 to 17th birthday, so did start giving 22 Mr. Epstein massages when she was 16, she performed a 23 few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 24 little bit of a break. 25 The sexual activity that occurred with OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085492
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4 1 Mr. Epstein when was under the age of 18 2 included , the use of a vibrator on 3 grabbing and fondling of her breasts and her 4 buttock, she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was 5 given a vibrator, she was given Victoria Secret 6 underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein 7 rented for her for a number of months, she was paid S200 8 by Mr. Epstein and was the one that primarily 9 called to set up appointments and as you can see 10 that began in December of '04. 11 was also one of Mr. Epstein's 12 favorites, according to several of the other girls. 13 Q Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does 14 that translate into the number of phone calls between 15 and that you were able to calculate? 16 A called her, I guess calls between 17 the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from 18 December 6th, 2004 until October, 2005. 19 Q And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury 20 did_ever tell Mr. Epstein her age? 21 A No, they did not ever discuss, she did not 22 tell him how old she was, but she did tell him where she 23 planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. 24 She stated that when it came to her age that 25 Mr. Epstein didn't care. As I mentioned earlier, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085493
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5 1 and were very good friends and would talk 2 about and Mr. Epstein would ask questions about 3 when was providing massages and as we will 4 talk about when we talk about Jane Doe number 4, which 5 is she told mr. Epstein that she was a junior in 6 high school and that and her were in the same 7 classes together and that they were very good friends 8 and told us that at one point had come to 9 her because she had slipped about prom and she was 10 worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 11 and she had talked about the prom and said she 12 never heard anything else about it and they never 13 brought it up. 14 Q Because, according to Mr. Epstein 15 didn't care really how old the girls were? 16 A Exactly. 17 Q And she never mentioned he asked her for her 18 age or asked for any form of identification to show 19 whether she was or was not over 18? 20 A No. 21 Q Now, if you could turn to the proposed 22 indictment and if 1 could ask you to look at overt act 23 number 59. 24 A we had a little knock at the door. Do you 25 want me to get it? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085494
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1 2 3 4 Q A number 4, Yes. (Thereupon, there was a brief pause.) I will let you see a picture of Jane Doe who we were talking about earlier, and 5 this is Is there anyplace you want to put it 6 right down here in front? 7 Q And just so the record is clear, those are the 8 photographs that we showed to the Grand Jury last week? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 Q So if you could turn to overt act number 59 11 which appears on page 12, and if you could explain to 12 the Grand Jury the evidence we have related to that 13 phone call or phone calls on December 6th, 2004. 14 A On December 6th, 2004 a review of the phone 15 records indicate that there was telephonic phone contact 16 between the numbers belonging to and 17 as well as we have evidence with 18 statements of the phone calls being made to 19 her by 20 Q And overt act number 60? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate 22 telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to 23 and on December 12, 2004. 24 Q And overt act number 64? 25 A A review of the phone records indicate OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085495
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7 1 telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 2 and on December 14th, 2004. 3 Q And just so that it is clear to the Grand 4 Jury, when the overt acts says that defendant 5 made one or more telephone calls, that means that the 6 call is originating from phone, is that 7 correct? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q And if you could turn to overt act number 71. 10 A on December 20th a review of the phone records 11 indicate that there was telephonic contact between 12 and 13 Q And overt act number 79? 14 A on January 6th, 2005 a review of phone records 15 indicate there was telephone contact between numbers 16 belonging to and 17 Q And number 83? 18 A on January 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 19 records indicate telephonic contact between numbers 20 belonging to and 21 Q And with respect to the other overt acts 22 related to the phone calls which would be 94, 100, 102, 23 104, 112, 118, 125, 129 and 132 is the evidence the 24 same? 25 A Yes, on or about each of those dates a review OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085496
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8 1 of the phone records indicated telephonic contact 2 between the numbers belonging to and 3 as well as-statements. 4 Q Now, if 1 could direct your attention to Count 5 number 7 which appears on page 26 of the draft 6 indictment, that is a charge of indictment of a minor 7 during the period of December 6th, 2004 through June 2nd 8 of 2005, could you summarize for the Grand Jury the 9 evidence related to that count. 10 A on or about these dates the facility of 11 interstate commerce, the telephone, specifically 12 and , were utilized to set up 13 appointments, massage appointments for Epstein. 14 During the massages and on more than one 15 occasion Epstein , he 16 used a massager directly on and Epstein 17 directed IIIIIIIIF o straddle him while he masturbated 18 and rubbed his penis between her legs, he would 19 masturbate, he would reach through her legs as she was 20 straddling him, there was no penetration of his penis in 21 , though. 22 He touched breasts, he would 23 masturbate. He pai n multiple occasions $200. 24 Both and Jeffrey Epstein have escorted 25 upstairs for these massages and Mr. Epstein gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085497
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9 1 a vibrator, victoria secret bra and panty sets 2 and he also rented her a car for several months. 3 Q And just so that it is clear, you mentioned he 4 paid her on several occasions, he paid her every time 5 she performed these lewd acts, correct? 6 A Yes, $200. 7 Q And is listed as a defendant with 8 respect to Jane Doe number 3 as well, and can you 9 explain to the Grand Jury a little bit more about who 10 is and why she is charged in this count? 11 A is one of Mr. Epstein's personal 12 assistants as well and she made appointments for him for 13 these massages. 14 we have contact between phone 15 and phone, she contacted approximately 16 25 times. 17 Q And that's why she is also charged with 18 someone who is either an aider or abetter or a 19 coconspirator with respect to this? 20 A ves. 21 Q okay. If I could direct your attention to 22 Count number 32 which appears on page 30, count number 23 32. 24 A I got 32. 25 Q what is the evidence related to? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085498
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10 1 A I am sorry, I didn't hear you ask me the 2 question, I thought you said refer to it. 3 The evidence is we have flight records that 4 indicate on December 13th, 2004 Epstein traveled to Palm 5 Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephonic 6 contact between and the day 7 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 8 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 9 described earlier in Count 7. 10 Q And just to refresh the recollection of the 11 Grand Jury, the Gulfstream aircraft is the one owned by 12 Hyperion? 13 A Air, Inc. 14 Q And when you said that there was telephone 15 contact, you recall that in overt act number 60 that we 16 discussed phone calls on December 12th, correct? 17 A we did. 18 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count number 19 35 and if you could tell the Grand Jury about the 20 evidence according to that count. 21 A Again, we have flight records that indicate 22 that on January 6th, 2005 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach 23 County on the Gulfstream again, there was telephonic 24 contact between and the day before, 25 the day of that travel, we also talked about the sexual OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085499
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11 1 conduct between Jeffrey and between Epstein and 2 3 Q And can you tell us again what aircraft they 4 flew on on January 6th? 5 A That was the Gulfstream which was owned by 6 Hyperion Air, Inc. 7 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count 36 and 8 again if you could summarize that evidence. 9 A we have flight records that indicate that on 10 January 14th, 2005 Epstein, and traveled to 11 Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727 that Mr. Epstein 12 owns, there was telephonic contact between 13 and the day before, the day of that 14 travel, as well as we have the sexual conduct between 15 Jeffrey Epstein and as we described 16 earlier, and I will tell you that is -- 17 , Mr. Epstein's personal assistant, and is 18 we talked about just a few minutes ago, 19 Mr. Epstein, another of Mr. Epstein's personal 20 assistants. 21 Q And if I could direct your attention to Count 22 37 and ask you to summarize the evidence related to that 23 count. 24 A we have flight records that indicate that on 25 February 3rd, 2005 M . Epstein and traveled OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085500
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12 1 to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, there was 2 telephonic contact between and 3 he day before or the day of travel and we have 4 the sexual conduct between Epstein and 5 Q And if I could direct your attention to Count 6 number 38. 7 A In Count number 38 we have flight records that 8 indicate on February 10th, 2005 Mr. Epstein, 9 and traveled to 10 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephone 11 contact between and the day 12 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and 14 Q Now, I am sorry, on Count number 38, which 15 airline were they on? 16 A They were on the Gulfstream. 17 Q Can I ask you to double-check that? There is 18 an inconsistency between the chart and the indictment or 19 we can save that for a later date. 20 A It is right here. 21 Q 1 will mark that we need to check on Count 22 number 38. 23 A I have the flight manifest with me if you want 24 me to check, I don't know if you want me to do that now. 25 Q Yes, if you don't mind. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085501
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13 1 (Thereupon, there was a brief pause.) 2 A In Count 38, flight records indicate on 3 February 10th, 2005 that Mr. Epstein, 4 and were in fact on the 5 Boeing 727. 6 Q So the draft indictment contains the correct 7 information? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q What company owns the Boeing 727? 10 A JEGE, Inc., Incorporated. 11 Q And if I could take you to Count number 39. 12 A Evidence shows through flight records that on 13 February 21st, 2005 Epstein, , 14 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 15 the Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 16 and the day before or the day 17 of travel, there was also the sexual conduct between 18 Epstein and IME 19 Q And if I could take you to Count number 40, 20 please. 21 A we have flight records that indicate on 22 February 24th, 2005 Epstein, 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 24 727, there was telephonic contact between 25 and the day before, the day of travel, and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085502
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14 1 there was sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 2 as we described earlier in Count 7. 3 Q And if you could do Count 42. 4 A we have evidence that shows flight records, 5 that flight records indicate that on March 18th, 2005 6 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, 7 there was telephonic contact between and 8 the day of or the day before travel, we 9 have the sexual conduct between Mr. Epstein and 10 Q And just referring to that count, 11 is named, although she was not on the flight that day, 12 is that correct? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And you said that she made the telephone calls 15 with correct? 16 A Yes, and we also do have -- we have 17 interviewed Mr. Epstein's pilots and one of the pilots 18 indicated that was the one that arranged all of 19 Mr. Epstein's travel arrangements and so she is 20 responsible for making his arrangements to travel to 21 Palm Beach as well as call the girls for the 22 appointments. 23 Q If I could take you to Count number 43, 24 please. 25 A Flight records indicate that on March 31st, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085503
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15 1 2005 Mr. Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the 2 Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 3 and the day before or the day of travel, 4 we also have the sexual conduct between Epstein as 5 Vanessa described earlier in Count 7. 6 Q Again, in Count 44, what is the evidence 7 related to that? 8 A Flight records indicate that on April 8th, 9 2005 Epstein and traveled to Palm Beach 10 County on the Gulfstream and there was telephonic 11 contact between and zylus on the 12 day before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and 14 Q And if you could go through 45, 46 and 47. 15 A Count 45 we have flight records that indicate 16 on April 27th, 2005 Epstein and traveled to 17 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there is telephone 18 contact between and the day 19 before or the day of travel and we have the sexual 20 conduct between Jeffrey and . 21 In Count 46 we have flight records that 22 indicate that on may 6th, 2005 Epstein, and 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 24 Gulfstream. 25 we have also telephonic contact between OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085504
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16 1 and either the day before or the 2 day of travel and we have the sexual conduct between 3 Epstein and , and in Count 47 on may 19th, 2005 4 we have flight records that indicate Epstein, 5 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 6 the Gulfstream and we have telephone contact between 7 and the day before or the day 8 of travel. 9 we also have the sexual conduct between 10 Epstein and as described in the earlier 11 count, count 7. 12 Q Now, if I could direct your attention to count 13 number 51 which appears on page 33, that is the sex 14 trafficking of a minor involving Jane Doe number 3, and 15 could you briefly summarize that, the evidence related 16 to that. 17 A As we discussed earlier in count 7, I told you 18 uys about the sexual conduct between Epstein and 19 the monies that were paid to by 20 Mr. Epstein, the hone activit we discussed between 21 and it began in December, 22 and we also have phone calls beginning in January from 23 to at that time was 17 24 years of age, and we also have statements from 25 and regarding Mr. Epstein's knowledge of their OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085505
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17 1 ages. 2 Q And with respect to the affect on interstate 3 commerce related to that count we have both the 4 telephone calls, correct? 5 A Yes. 6 Q As well as Mr. Epstein actually traveling in 7 interstate commerce to engage in this activity, correct? 8 A Yes, we do. 9 Q Is there anything else that you would like to 10 mention about Jane Doe number 3? 11 A Not at this time, no. 12 Q If I could direct you to lane Doe number 4 and 13 if you could summarize for the Grand Jury the 14 information related to Jane Doe number 4's activities. 15 A Jane Doe number 4 is 16 wanted their birth dates, her birth date is 17 she was 16 years old and attended 18 High School. 19 we first have contact through phone calls from 20 21 indicates and shows that was clearly 16 years of 22 age when she started going to Mr. Epstein's and 23 performing massa es for Mr. Epstein. 24 ur Jane Doe number 1, was the one 25 who recruited she basically told that she tom on April 25th, 2004 which , I think you OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085506
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• 18 1 could make $200, she needed to dress cute, he might try 2 to touch you, but if you feel uncomfortable just let him 3 know and he will stop, and the first massage that 4 did he repeatedly told , and I mentioned this to 5 you in the last Grand Jury session, she was very shy and 6 he would repeatedly tell her not to be so shy, that she 7 didn't have to be so shy. 8 Epstein asked her to remove her clothing and 9 she told him no, and throughout the massage he would 10 11 12 13 14 15 repeatedly grab at masturbate through clothes, she would that. upon leaving told that if her, this pull the he grabbed her butt, he did first massage and pulled her away and she was paid $200 for first massage Mr. Epstein was willing to do more she 16 would get paid more. He also informed that if she 17 would bring her pretty friends he would also pay her for 18 bringing her pretty friends. He told that 19 would get her phone number. 20 says that she performed three to four 21 massages for Mr. Epstein. we have with 22 approximately a hundred phone calls between 23 and 24 when i interviewed she became very upset 25 when we got to the sexual massages that she did for OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085507
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19 1 Mr. Epstein. At this point, this is as much as we know 2 at this point of what occurred with Mr. Epstein and 3 4 She did three to four massages and those last 5 massages they became more sexual in nature, he asked her 6 again to remove her clothing, this time she took her 7 shirt off, he asked her to take her bra off, she said 8 no. 9 He again would touch her breasts, he would 10 touch her butt, he did continue to masturbate, this time 11 she believes he ejaculated. He continued to compliment 12 her, tell her she had a nice body and that she was 13 pretty. 14 says that he was very nice and engaged 15 her in conversation, asked her, you know, if she had a 16 boyfriend. In the last massage she discusses with me, 17 and this massage Mr. Epstein told her to stop being shy 18 and asked her to take her clothes off and said 19 that she had a boyfriend and she didn't feel comfortable 20 taking her clothes off and he told her you should know 21 what to expect by now when you come here, and he jerked 22 on her pants as to like jerk them down, so she did on 23 this last massage get down to her bra and underwear. 24 She describes his tone at this time being 25 frustrated and irritated, she stayed in her bra and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085508
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20 1 underwear, but during the massage he grabbed her bra and 2 pulled it down and fondled her breasts, he had 3 instructed her to pinch his chest, his nipples while she 4 was massaging his chest, he tried to grab her all over, 5 he knew that she was upset with this massage. 6 At one point mr. Epstein asked her if she had 7 sex with her boyfriend, informs him that she is 8 still a virgin and he responds what, you don't like sex? 9 And that's pretty much the way that last massage went. 10 Q NOW, Special Agent IIIIIIIIIIII just to 11 interrupt you, you mentioned that Jane Doe number 4 12 became very upset as you were asking her about the 13 massages, correct? 14 A yes. 15 Q And when she was describing this incident with 16 him grabbing at her breast and trying to pull her pants 17 down and instructing her to remove her pants, correct? 18 A yes. 19 Q you had talked last week about the expert that 20 you had spoken with about interviewing victims of these 21 types of offenses? 22 A Right. 23 Q And you had told us about how a victim may be 24 reticent at first to tell the entire story until a 25 rapport is built? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085509
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21 1 A Right. 2 Q Can you tell the Grand Jury your impressions 3 of your interview with 4 A She became so visibly upset, and a lot of the 5 girls are embarrassed of what took place, but when she 6 talked about the last massage and him grabbing her 7 breasts and fondling her breasts she was in tears and we 8 stopped the massage and we calmed her down, trying to go 9 back there was just too difficult, I could not get her 10 back to discussing anything further that had taken 11 place. 12 I have since then -- I have since talked to 13 again and I feel there is more there, but I just 14 don't think she is ready to disclose what took place. 15 Q So based upon the more than 60 telephone calls 16 as well as -- 17 A Approximately a hundred. 18 Q -- 100 telephone calls and your conversations 19 with you think there is probably more than four 20 massages that happened? 21 A ves, I do. 22 Q was there anything else that you wanted to 23 discuss with the Grand Jury? 24 A Just, as I stated in the beginning of those 25 massages, they engaged in conversation and throughout OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085510