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14 is going to go to Jef£'s attorney so I don't think he wan an 
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What kind of questions was he asking? If the 
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So wint else happened when you provided him the 
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19 parts and he wan just laying on the table and I was just 
20 massaging from his knees down for about 45 minutes and she 
21 said all : had to do was give hie a passage for en hots so 
22 that's who: I did. And then like ter antes before we were 
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1 night want to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then 
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Well it like was almost a year eco. (Inaudible) 
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No. 1 had my clothes on. 
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Oh-huh. 
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He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I 
20 was like you could toll I was shy so I think that's why he 
21 didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that 
22 he got flirtatious with them and he made them take oft tteir 
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One time. How much did he pay you for that? 
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$300. 
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Okay. All right. He never 
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No. Like I'm very comfortable with like he asked 
me that too and he's like are you uncomfortable and like as 
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it didn't really bother me. And I needed the money so, you 
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what I had to do, you know? 
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I understand. I understand. That was the only 
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One time. And I think I dropped her off once and 
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got her an hour later when her car was down or something. 
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Okay. And --
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He had like a massage room, like a bed and like he 
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Massage bed or like a bed bed? 
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No, like a massage bed. Uh-huh. A massage bed. 
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Okay. And where was this? What part of the house 
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His house is massive. We went in through the 
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Okay. All right. When you would go back and do 
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more things 
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Well, no. I mean I would take my jeans off a lot 
of times or whatever but that was that. 
never slept with 
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Yes. 
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Okay. During the massage that you gave him, did 
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Like I mean he would like touch my hip cr whatever 
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but I mean that, that's really it. 
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Okay. 
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And if I ever like asked, if I ever said I wasn't 
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And this all occurred when you were 18 though, 
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Uh-huh. I had been 18 for like eight months, nine 
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Okay. You're 19 now though right? 
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Yes. Yes. 
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It was about a year ago when you met him. 
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Okay. That's fine. 
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But I don't --
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No. Only thing I know of her is that 1 guess 
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No. He never had my number and I never had his 
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Huh-huh. 
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Okay. 
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I wasn't afraid. I guess I should have been 
(inaudible) but I wasn't afraid but I wasn't very 
comfortable. 
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Were you afraid to say no to anything? 
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No. I could have said no but at that time I was 
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Jeffrey's. 
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Okay. Obviously this is an ongoing investigation. 
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I would appreciate it if anybody does call you from the 
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house to try to find out information or ask you questions 
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about what if the police have contacted you, I would 
appreciate it if you called me. You have my card, right? 
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I have it somewhere. I'm not sure what I did with 
it though to be honest. 
Okay. 
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Thank you. 
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Okay. Just a few more questions. 
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When you had intercourse, obviously that was 
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consensual? 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay. He's never forced himself or forced 
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anything on you? 
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No. 
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Did you bring anyone to the house? 
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Yes. I brought two people but each of them only 
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went once. 
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Okay. Who were those people? 
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A girl named 
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Uh-huh. 
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And a girl named 
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And? 
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But I haven't because I haven't known him that long. 
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Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in 
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the kitchen and waited for 
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me. 
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Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything 
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escalated from just a massage? 
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No. Like the first time I went, I waited. The 
second time I went, I stayed in all my clothes and like gave 
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Do you give the massage in your 
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No. 
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Completely clothed? 
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Completely clothed, yeah. 
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Okay. 
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I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just 
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Has he touched you? 
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No. 
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Has he 
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The closest he came to touching me was giving me a 
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Massaged what? His --
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His back and his lower back and his feet. 
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All right. Okay. Have you ever seen him naked? 
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No. in a towel but that's it. 
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That's it. Has he ever touched you? 
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No. 
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Has he ever touched himself while you were 
massaging? 
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No. He was mostly like on the phone. Like my 
friend told me, he's perverted but he's never that way 
toward me. He asked me once. 
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What did he ask you? 
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He asked me like the third time I went there. 
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To do what? 
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If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I 
said no and I think he could tell I was like uncomfortable 
with it so... 
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Okay. All right. So aside from 
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Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house? 
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I meL -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet 
them but I've seen them. Like I was never formally 
introduced but I've seen a little like short -- I don't even 
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