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BY 
A GRAND JUROR: The number of times they 
went to visit versus the number of phone 
calls. There seems to be a big difference. 
THE WITNESS: Yes. There's a lot of 
phone calls and we have phone calls showing 
up prior to his arrival and during his 
arrival and some of the phone calls are 
lengthy and some of them are, you know, 
seconds. 
So either maybe they didn't get through. 
We are looking at a cell phone bill and 
getting those totals from looking at the cell 
phone bill and the calls just vary in time 
length and, you know, the only explanation I 
guess, you know, would be -- and that's just 
me giving you my opinion -- is that, you 
know, either they didn't reach each other, so 
they would continue to call back and forth. 
There was a lot of calls between these 
teenage girls or these adolescent girls as 
well as the phone activity between 
and 
and 
with the girls. 
Q 
All right. 
And also Special Agent 
, I know that you testified about this 
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earlier in terms of the tendency of victims of 
this type of offense to minimize the number of 
visits, for example, minimize the conduct that 
they engaged in? 
A 
That is true as well. 
Q 
So it is possible that the girls went 
more than five times or ten times? 
A 
Yes. 
I mean, it's difficult to try to 
get them to tell you an exact number and that's 
why we have approximated, and, again, they have 
minimized either with local law enforcement and 
now when we go back either through time or just 
being able to -- you know, the approach, they have 
been able to tell us a little more of what took 
place. 
Again, 
stated she went hundreds of 
times. Can we put her down to a number? Two 
hundred and twenty-five phone calls. You know, we 
just know that she went a lot of times. 
You can look at the phone activity of 
seeing the phone calls that are made prior to his 
arrival and during his arrival to try to gage when 
they were there. 
All right. 
Any other 
questions related to Jane Doe Number Eight? 
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BY 
Okay. 
Q 
Then we have two questions that were 
raised earlier. One of which was whether there is 
any evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein filmed 
any of these encounters? 
A 
We don't have any evidence at this time. 
Some of girls were asked that question but there's 
no evidence to show that he did or indicate that 
he did. 
Q 
All right. 
And then the second one was 
we had talked earlier about Mr. Epstein leaving 
Florida and not returning. 
What evidence do you 
have regarding where Mr. Epstein has been since 
October of 2005? 
A 
He has -- and I may have misspoke if I 
said he has not ever come back. 
He has come back 
because of the state charges he has faced. He has 
had to come into Palm Beach County for that. 
We do not believe that he has been here 
other than that since the investigation broke in 
October of '05, other than having to appear before 
the state charges. 
We know where Mr. Epstein resides and we 
have a partner, ICE, Immigration and Customs 
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Enforcement, who can -- is helping us monitor his 
plane activity, and, although, we were not privy 
to all of his domestic flights when he comes in 
and out of the country, we are alerted to that. 
Q 
And you mentioned earlier that you 
interviewed 
A 
Yes. 
, correct? 
Q 
Who currently serves in what position of 
Mr. Epstein? 
A 
He is currently the house manager for 
Mr. Epstein and maintains the property over in 
Palm Beach. 
Q 
And what did he tell you about Mr. 
Epstein? 
A 
He also said that Mr. Epstein has not 
been back. 
Q 
Okay. 
: 
Any other questions? 
All right. You guys get a break next. All 
right. We will see you -- I will be out of 
town next week and I will probably see you 
the week after that. 
(Witness was excused.) 
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 
Certified Court 
Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the 
transcript is a true and correct transcription of 
my stenotype notes of the testimony of 
SPECIAL AGEN 
taken before 
certitiea our 
Reporter 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 
vs. 
Plaintiff, 
IN, 
Defendants. 
SPECIAL AGENT 
APPEARANCES: 
TESTIMONY 
COPY 
Federal Grand Jury 07-103 
Federal Building 
U.S. Courthouse 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, March 18, 2008 
bib Ldill 
VIIlleU 
OL.  tes Attorney 
Foreperson 
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imony of SPECIAL AGENT 
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as taken before the 
3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 
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Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 
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County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 18, 
6 2008. 
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Certified Court 
8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 
9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 
10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 
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33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn 
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BY 
(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 
that the testimony you give will be the 
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 
truth, so help you God? 
THE WITNESS: 
I do. 
THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 
seated. 
EXAMINATION 
Q 
Good afternoon, Special Agent 
Would you just remind the grand jury 
of your name and for whom you work? 
A 
I am 
in West Palm Beach. 
My official name is 
and I work for the FBI here 
Q 
All right. And you are still one of the 
case agents on Operation Leap Year? 
A 
Yes, I am. 
Q 
Have additional subpoenas been issued on 
behalf of this grand jury regarding Leap Year? 
A 
Yes, they have. 
Q 
And have documents been received in 
response to those subpoenas? 
A 
Yes, they have. 
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Q 
What subpoenas were issued and what 
items were received? 
A 
The items that are received are in this 
box for your review at a later time, but starting 
with the first subpoena that we had received 
documents back for would be from American Express. 
The subpoena was issued and we received 
credit card account information. 
Q 
Okay. 
A 
Do you want me just to --
Q 
You can just go through them. 
A 
A subpoena was issued to J. Epstein 
Virgin Island Foundation, Inc., J. Epstein and 
Company, Epstein Interests, Financial Trust 
Company, Inc., and we received documents on all 
three of those except for -- all four of those 
except for Jeffrey Epstein and Company --
J. Epstein and Company, which we received a letter 
of no response. 
The next subpoena was issued to the Palm 
Beach County School Board and we received 
transcript request forms. The next grand jury 
subpoena was issued to 
, Airport 
Executive, Town Car Services. 
We received a 
verbal that there were no records from Mr. 
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We issued a grand jury subpoena to the 
custodian of records for Majestic Theater, which 
we received ticketing records for. 
We issued a grand jury subpoena or you 
issued a grand jury subpoena for the custodian of 
records at the Broward Center for the Performing 
Arts and we received ticketing records. 
We issued a subpoena for the custodian 
of records for the Kravis Center for the 
Performing Arts and received a letter of no 
records response. 
We issued a subpoena for the custodian 
of records for Live Nation Theatrical Broadway 
Across America. Again, received a response letter 
of no records. 
We issued another subpoena for the 
custodian of records from Live Nation Theatrical 
Broadway Across America and that we did receive 
some ticketing records. 
We issued a subpoena to Bear Sterns and 
Company, Inc., and we received personnel files and 
account information. 
We issued a grand jury 
subpoena for Wolf Camera and we received 
transaction records. 
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We have issued a grand jury subpoena to 
Amazon.com and received order records. We issued 
a grand jury subpoena to Federal Express and 
received shipping records, and all that is 
contained in this box. 
Q 
All right. 
BY 
And at the end of our 
preservation, you will be welcome to look 
through any of those records and we also will 
bring them to the next session. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I have a question. 
Yes. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
We subpoenaed 
information from theaters. 
I heard you say 
ticketing information or records from a few 
of them. 
Did we subpoena that information to 
establish location of the defendant or I 
guess he's not a defendant yet? 
THE WITNESS: Just as corroborating 
evidence of testimony provided by the girls. 
Their statements provided to us. 
A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 
A: 
Q 
Okay. Special Agent 
each 
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member of the grand jury has before them a copy of 
a chart. Do you also have a copy of this chart 
entitled Revised Indictment Summary Chart 
(by victim)? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And then you also provided to everyone a 
list of Jane Does with photographs? 
A 
Yes, I did. 
Q 
Okay. Can you just explain to the grand 
jury how -- which Jane Does we are going to be 
talking about today? 
A 
We are going to talk about Jane Does One 
through Six and Nine and Ten, and what you have 
here is a Jane Doe list of One through 19. 
We 
will be going through the first Six and Nine and 
Ten. 
As you can see, if you look at these two 
columns you'll see in the indictment we have 
before you is going to have the new Jane Doe 
numbers and the column to the right of that shows 
you what their Jane Doe number used to be. 
So Jane Does Nine and Ten, when we spoke 
about those two before, and we will go through 
that a little bit later, we referred to those as 
Jane Does Six and Seven. From here on out, we 
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will refer to them as Jane Does Nine and Ten: 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I have a question about 
Jane Doe Number One, and 
pointed this 
out. The date of birth is 
The 
range of activity dates is 1988 to 2003? 
THE WITNESS: That's a typo. That 
should be 
Thank you for catching 
that. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I was about ready to 
have a problem here. 
I was having a real 
problem. Yeah. 
Okay. Thank you. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I was about to take the 
law into my own hands. 
THE WITNESS: Let there be noted on the 
summary chart, there is a typo correction for 
Jane Doe Number One. The range of activity 
for her is 1998 to 2003. 
This chart is a chart that we put 
together because I have testified in the past 
as well as you may have heard other testimony 
regarding some of the Jane Does, and we are 
going to be talking about them today and in a 
later session. 
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We want 
we provided this to you sort 
of as an aid so that you can go back and 
access the grand jury transcripts and go to 
the date that the testimony was provided. 
If you look at the last column where it 
says, Grand Jury Transcript Pages, on this 
form it will tell you the date of the grand 
jury, who provided that testimony, and the 
page number where you can find testimony 
related to those specific Overt Acts and 
substantive counts. 
So the two columns next to that -- let's 
just take Jane Doe Number Two and run through 
that real quick. Jane Doe Number Two, we 
have not testified about before. So that is 
her number and will always remain her number. 
Her date of birth is 
The range of activity and that reflects the 
range of activity that we have her connected 
to Mr. Epstein and his assistants. 
The next two columns are the Overt Acts 
and the associated substantive counts. The 
Overt Acts support those substantive counts 
and again the last column you would at that 
point go to my testimony on May 8th, 2007, 
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and look on the transcript on Pages Six and 
Seven, and that would be my testimony for the 
Overt Acts, the supporting evidence and 
testimony for Overt Acts One 
through 18. 
BY MS. VILLAFANA: 
Q 
But, Special Agent 
just so 
that it is clear, when you testified back in May, 
you weren't testifying specifically about Jane Doe 
Number Two, but her name came up in -- with 
respect to one of the other Jane Does? 
A 
Exactly. 
Q 
Okay. 
So any information related to 
those Jane Does would be in the transcript pages? 
A 
Yes. 
Does that make sense to 
everyone how we have organized that? 
BY 1 
Q 
Now Special Agent 
, if you 
could look at the proposed indictment, and I'm 
looking at the Background section of the 
indictment specifically Paragraphs One through 
Nine, which deal with Mr. Epstein's background and 
who he employed. 
Have you testified about that material 
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in the past? 
A 
Yes, I have. 
Q 
And let me just direct you to Overt Two, 
which is at the top of Page Two. There is a 
reference to L.G., and I don't believe we have 
talked about L.G. before. 
Can you tell the grand jury who that is? 
is 
nd she is a 
personal assistant or an assistant for Mr. Epstein 
in his New York office. 
Q 
All right. And just for the court 
reporter, 
is 
is that correct? 
A 
Yes, it is. 
Q 
Then Paragraph Three talks about three 
individuals, 
, and 
Can you tell 
the grand jury who those persons are? 
is 
Q 
And if you look at the summary chart on 
the second page, there are columns for 
and 
Do you see those at the bottom of Page Two? 
A 
Yes, I see them. 
Q 
And those refer to 
and 
where you have testified about 
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them before or where 
testified about them? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
I know that you 
was 
who 
have testified about 
Mr. Epstein's residence here in Palm Beach, but if 
you could look at Paragraph Five of that 
introductory section, which is on Page Two. 
Are you -- can you provide the grand 
jury with the location of Mr. Epstein's New York 
residence? 
A 
Mr. Epstein currently has a property 
located at 9 East 71st Street, New York, New York. 
Q 
If I could direct you to Page Five of 
the proposed indictment in Paragraphs 18 through 
25 of the introductory section. 
Can you tell the grand jury about where 
the various victims in this case attended high 
school? 
A 
I can. Starting with Paragraph 18. 
Would you like me to just run through them? 
Q 
Sure. 
A 
Jane Doe Number Four attended) 
High School and 
High School. 
Jane Doe Number Five attended 
igh 
School. Jane Doe Numbers Six, Eight, and 12, 
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attended 
High School. 
I should state that all of these high 
schools are located in 
Jane 
Doe Number Seven attended 
High 
School in 
Jane Doe Numbers Nine, 14, 15, 16, 17, 
18, and 19 attended 
High School 
in 
Jane Doe Number Ten 
attended 
High School in 
Jane Doe Number 1 1 attended the 
school located in 
area; 
Jane Doe Number 13 attended 
High School in 
and the Jane 
Does attended these high schools during some point 
of the contact with Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
Now Special Agent 
I know 
that not each and everyone of the Jane Does is 
listed in this. Did some of the Jane Does leave 
school before they began their relationship with 
Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Yes, they did. 
Q 
Now everyone was handed a copy of a 
document entitled, Merged Flight Manifests. If I 
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could ask you to take a look at that, and in the 
proposed indictment if you could turn to Page 32. 
Special Agent 
I'm going to 
ask you about ()vent Acts 191 through 225. Can 
you tell the grand jury what the basis is for the 
allegations set forth in 191 through 225? 
A 
We received through the issuance of a 
grand jury subpoena the flight manifest from Mr. 
Epstein's pilot and that is our evidence to show 
the travel that Mr. Epstein did, which is 
displayed in Overt Acts 191 through 225. 
Q 
And the chart that is entitled Merged 
Flight Manifests, what does that include? 
A 
This chart will show the grand jury that 
in January 2004 through -- basically, Mr. 
Epstein's travel in '04 and '05 on his two 
personal aircrafts, which would be the Boeing 727 
and the Gul£stream. 
If you look at this chart, the first 
column is the date of departure, the date that he 
left, and you'll see airport codes in the next 
column that tells you the airport that he left and 
what time he left would be the next time, the 
departure time. 
It will tell you what airport he was 
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arriving in and what time he arrived at that 
airport, and the last would be the actual 
aircraft itself, which aircraft he was traveling 
on, and just to remind the grand jury, Hyperion 
is the Gulfstream and JEGE is the Boeing 727. 
Q 
And who created this chart, the Merged 
Flight Manifests Chart? 
A 
The FBI. 
Q 
And where did they gather this 
information from? 
A 
We subpoenaed or the grand jury issued a 
subpoena to the pilot and pilots of Mr. Epstein 
and through counsel the pilots gave us a copy of 
the flight manifest for those two years and I have 
here a set of the flight manifests that were 
provided to us by the grand jury subpoena and have 
marked each of the Overt Acts from 191 to 225 
So that if any time the grand jury would 
like to come and look at the actual manifest the 
pilots gave us, you'll be able to see the data 
that this form was taken from. 
Q 
Okay. Thank you. 
Before I go on, does 
anyone have any questions about those Overt 
Acts and where this information came from? 
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