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28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is that the same evidence that supports that count? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were introduced to Mr. Epstein by Is another Jane Doe who will be discussed at a later time? A Yes. MS. VILLAFANA: Any questions about Jane Doe Number Six? Yes. A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm allowed to ask this, and you don't have to answer it, but how did the parents -- do they ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton purse? I mean, how do they not know anything like a car? BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Did you have you interviewed parents? A No. MS. VILLAFANA: Yes. A GRAND JUROR: My question is that OFFICIAL PRPORTTrin cFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085591
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29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is that something that you are going to discuss? MS. VILLAFANA: In the future. As I mentioned before, there's -- that question is pending and I want to get a definitive answer before we go through that. A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that. A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54 on this. A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the next page. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. The Palm Beach Police Department -- did tell the Palm Beach Police Department that her mother believed that she worked there, and I would need to go back and check, but I believe that she worked there as a -- I want to say like an assistant or answered the phones or something like that. And at one point, her mother thought there might have been more going on and actually did end going over there for a time period, but then she did resume later. OFFICIAL ”nnnm-rmn enn"ICE, LLC EFTA00085592
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30 1 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 2 MS. VILLAFANA: Any other questions? 3 Okay. 4 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 5 Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number 6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Seven is and her date of birth is Q How did come to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A worked illi p Jane Doe Number Six told through working at at the mall, and that the mall, and or that she coulc make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. Epstein. naked for this massage, she didn't told her that she may have to be but if she didn't want to have to. We have the contact, the telephonic contact between and beginning in July 2004 and through November of 2005. There is approximately 100 calls between and and there is around OFFICIAL RFPoRTTNe SFRVTrE, LLC EFTA00085593
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31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 seven calls, approximately seven calls to in between and and approximately eight calls between and stated that she went about 15 times to Mr. Epstein's the house. is first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to High School and does not attend High School. On first massage, took upstairs for the first massage and set up the room. Epstein instructed to leave the room. During the massage, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. She removed only her shirt. she described converse with 8 different life issues such as where described Epstein as being him as a respective guy, who would her. She said that they discussed wanted to attend college in the future. He also gave her advice. She didn't have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with her parents. She performed this massage and she was paid $200 for the massage. told us that as the massages OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085594
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32 1 2 3 4 • I continued, they more sexual. further with By would Epstein then progress would try massage, and to go further become and had the third 5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was 6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 7 would fondle breasts. 8 He rubbed hei He did not 9 penetrate did not digitally penetrate her, but 10 did stroke and rub on the outside. She 11 would tell him no on occasions and she would also 12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 13 she did not want him to touch. 14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 15 on while he continued to 16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 18 direction, assisted in giving the 19 massage. 20 And on -- the first time tells 21 us that was setting up the room and she 22 remained in the room and started to undress. 23 was surprised. 24 She was never asked or told this was 25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085595
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33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein. and Epstein began performing sexual acts in front of Epstein used a massager on 's in front of as well as they both performed oral sex in front of on each other. also touched breasts. She touched her -- touched I She took hand and placed it on I and pulled it back, pulled It away. did use the massager directly on Some of the gifts that received, she did receive also a bathing suit, which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. She received four tickets for her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and , they wired money t In June of 2005, on senior trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to She ran out of money and they sent her -- wired her, Western Unioned her $350, and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San Diego, California, and she also received $200 by OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085596
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Western Union. Q All right. Anything you want to ask before we go to the Overt Acts? No. All right. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q If I could refer you first to Overt Act Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Six to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you explain what the evidence is supporting that? A Yes. A review of phone records from phone and indicated they had telephonic contact at that time. Q And that was following a telephone contact between and Jane Doe Number Six? A Yes, it was. Q All right. And is that consistent with what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes. Q Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085597
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35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39, 41 , 44, 45, 66, 75, 85, 89, and 90, what the evidence related to those Overt Acts? A Can we skip 89? Q Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. A A review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on those specific dates as wP1 1 as the statements of that Sarah would call her in advance or call her while Mr. Epstein was in town. Q All right. And those records show that the phone calls originated with telephone? A Yes. Q Now if I could direct you to Overt Act Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a written message to Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. Is that the phone message that you mentioned earlier today? A Yes, it is. Q Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is related to Overt Act Number 89? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085598
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36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 arrange massage appointments During the massages, Epstein asked remove her clothing. Starting with was completely nude and A That would be a review of the phone records from phone records from telephonic contact Q From Ms. A Yes. Q And then as well as a review of the on that day. to that there was telephone? Overt Act Number 92, can you tell us what the evidence is related to that? A That is on that day a review of their phone records of phone records and indicates that there was telephonic contact between the two of them on that date. Q Now if I could refer you to Count Number 11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury what the evidence is related to that count? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, between , and These phones were utilized to set up and for Mr. Epstein. the third massage, Epstein touched to OFFICIAL RPORTTNn SFRVTCF, LLC EFTA00085599
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37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back massager on He masturbated during the massages. On at least two occasions Epstein involved into the sexual activity. stroked and used the massager on hand on her also placed which pulled back. Epstein paid $200 on each these occasions. Epstein also provided her with a bathing suit, four tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th birthday. Epstein and Western Unioned on at least two occasions and Epstein dealing with her bad provided with advice credit, with her parents, and her plans for going to college, and was 17 when all this activity took place. Q Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 11 run through the day before correct? her 18th birthday, A Yes, they do. Q Now with respect to Count Number 55, is OFFICIAL RFPORTINC RFRVICP, LLC EFTA00085600
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38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that the same evidence that relates to the sex trafficking charge? A Yes. Q Okay. And the date ranges between up until she turns 18? A Yes, it is. Q All right. BY : Any questions about Jane Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And if you could tell the grand jury Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Eight is was born She attended High School and she had been to Mr. Epstein's house approximately 15 times. Q And who first introduced tc Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Six. Q And tell us how A told $200 if she provided that contact began. that she could make Mr. Epstein with a massage. She She told her that she would have to take off her clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. 0FFICIAI DPDCIDTTMC col:burr^ n, LLC EFTA00085601
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39 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on the first massage, we have -- I guess I should tell you, we have phone contact between and starting February 25, 2005, and that phone contact continues through October of 2005. We have over 50 calls between and calls between first massage, and we have approximately 25 and On that brought and set up the massage table. left the room. Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered wearing only a towel. massaged Mr. Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated during this massage. I should tell you that told us that -- told law enforcement, that he has the girls take off their clothes, and in this massage she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. She kept her underwear on. He would touch her breasts and he would also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used a massager on over her panties, old us that on one or two occasions she was completely nude and he did use the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085602
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40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massager directly on On one of the times that she was completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked back before and she -- Epstein told lay down and that he was going to crack er •ack like he had done before. When she laid down, Mr. Epstein performed sexual intercourse on stated of She that he did pull out and ejaculated outside He gave her an extra 100, $150. up to this point, so it would be had made $200 300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. On another occasion, was brought into the massage. nd Mr. Epstein engaged in sexual acts while ould continue to massage Mr. Epstein. Epstein did ask and to kiss and he watched as they touched each other. I guess, touched -- I should say touched breasts and continued to touch Mr. Epstein as well as this all went on. As provided to as well as a digital camera. far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein he gave her a photography book told us that actually gave her the camera, but it was per OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085603
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41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein's instructions. She was 17 at the time all this activity Q Epstein's A She told And what did knowledge of She told Mr. occurred. say about Mr. her age? Epstein how old she was. him that she was 17. Q Now was interviewed shortly after the activity ended, correct? A Yes. Q Do you remember the approximate date when Mr. Epstein left Palm Beach County and has returned only for court appearances? A I believe it was October 6th. It was the beginning of October was the last time we have him -- or when he left the area. Q And shortly A Q explain was interviewed by the police after that time? Yes, she was interviewed on November 8. And during that interview, did she when the last time was when she had seen Mr. Epstein? A She had said shortly before her birthday. Q And she said it was actually the first week in October? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085604
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42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Now was before A later called to appear the State Grand Jury? Yes. Q And during that testimony, did she did she confuse the last day that she saw Mr. Epstein? A Yes. She stated -- and this was done believe in July of '06, so this would have been over a year and some months. She did state that the last time she saw Mr. Epstein was the day before her birthday and that is when the sexual intercourse took place. Q Okay. So she thought it was the day before her birthday, but based on her earlier statement and the records that we have, we know it was a few days before her birthday? A Q Okay. Let's -- actually, before we go to the Overt Acts, do you mind if I ask the agent a question outside? I think I caught another error. Excuse us for a moment. and the witness exit the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085605
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Grand Jury Room.) ( and the witness enter the Grand Jury Room.) MS. VILLAFANA: There is a discrepancy in Overt Act Number 138. The chart that I provided to you says -- has the name as the relevant defendant and in the indictment it says So we are trying to confirm who the right caller was. A GRAND JUROR: Can I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: You had said that he had not been in Florida? Uh-huh. A GRAND JUROR: How do they know that he has not come into Florida? Okay. We can address that without the agent. A GRAND JUROR: Could I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any way that he might have been filming this? Does anybody know about it, I mean, you know? Dkay. We will answer those after we finish going through these OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085606
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44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY items. A GRAND JUROR: I knew there was a reason you were hauling all those records back and forth. A GRAND JUROR: After the case is over, how long do you actually have to keep all that? This is all on the record. A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. It's curiosity. Okay. All right. Q So from your review of the phone records, Special Agent Overt Act Number 138 relates to A Yes. Okay. All right. Now let's run through Overt Acts 110, 128, 133, 136, 138, 139, 141 , 142, 145, 152, 154, and 156. Could you let the grand jury know what_ the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A A review of the phone records indicate on those dates there was telephonic contact between the and as well as statements that called her OFFICIAL CE, LLC EFTA00085607
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45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and in advance as to when Mr. Epstein was in town to set up appointments. Q And if you could look at Overt Acts 124, 146, and 149. A A review of phone records between and indicates there was telephonic phone contact on those dates. Q Phone calls originating with ending with A Yes. Q And Overt Act Number 147? A Overt Act 147, a review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on that date as well. Q And then Overt Act Number 150, says that on September 8, 2005, Defendant received a telephone call from Jane Doe Number Eight, and what is the evidence related to that? A The evidence on that date is that a review of those phone records indicates that contacted Q So with respect to that one, the phone call originated with with as opposed to being OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085608
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Now if you could turn to Count Number 12 and summarize for the grand jury the evidence supporting that charge of the enticement of a minor? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, specifically , and phones were u tilized to set and arrange massages, massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein would ask to remove her clothing. She would perform the massages either in her underwear or completely nude. Epstein masturbated while these massages. Epstein used a massager on vagina with her panties on and with them off. Epstein had intercourse with He ejaculated outside On one occasion, Epstein brought into the sexual activity, introduced into the sexual activity. They performed sex acts on each other, that being and Jeffrey Epstein, in front of OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 performed EFTA00085609
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47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and she continued to massage Mr. Epstein. At Mr. Epstein's request, and did kiss as well as touched LedbLS. Epstein paid 200 to 300 to $350 to nd that depended on the sexual activity. Epstein gav photography as well as a digital camera provided to her by and of age. as well as bra and underwear sets, told Mr. Epstein that she was 17 years Q All right. And is that the same evidence with respect to Count Number 56? A Yes, it is. Before we go to those other two questions that were posed, are there any questions that relates to Jane Doe Number Eight? Yes, sir. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any explanation from any of the girls about the number of calls versus the number of times they say they went there? more time. I'm sorry. Say it one OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085610