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taste her. He stopped at that time, but then 
before the massage was over, he 
her again. 
He had used a back massager on her on at 
least two occasions. She did not like that and 
she told him that and he responded something to 
the effect: 
What are you scared to have pleasure? 
And she told him she didn't like it. 
On the second to the last massage that 
gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a 
massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked 
her to get fully unclothed. 
He actually took a phone call and told 
her that she should get undressed and lay on the 
bed completely naked. 
He just wanted to'look at 
her. 
He took his phone call. 
After the phone call was over, he ended 
up 
as well as 
performing oral sex on 
She said that she 
felt very dirty after that massage or after that 
time and she had decided that the next massage 
would be her last massage, that she did not want 
to go back. 
During the last massage she gave, she 
kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented 
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and noticed that she was looking at the clock and 
she made reference to that her boyfriend was 
waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she 
was ruining his massage and that if she didn't 
want to be here she Should leave. 
She told him at this time this would be 
her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300 
to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr. 
Epstein. 
It was 
who took her upstairs that 
first time or took her upstairs and set up the 
massage table. 
She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein 
as well. She received bra and pantie sets from 
him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She 
also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein. 
She was Western Unioned a wire of $200 
as a Christmas bonus to 
from Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
How did 
get to and from Mr. 
Epstein's home? 
A 
She had a vehicle that she would drive 
if she didn't ride with one of the other girls. 
If she was grounded and could not get to Mr. 
Epstein's house, he would send a car for her. 
There was a local taxi service and she 
stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln 
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Town Car that was sent and there was an individual 
by the name of 
that she got to know pretty 
well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's 
house, but that even when she didn't have 
transportation on those particular times, that a 
car was 
house. 
Q 
sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's 
Is there anything else that you wanted 
to tell the grand jury about 
A 
That's it. 
Q 
All right. 
If I could direct you to the 
proposed draft indictment, draft proposed 
indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Art 
that involve Jane Doe Number Five and 
Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65, 
69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 111 . 
Can you explain to the grand jury what 
the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? 
A 
We have reviewed phone records that 
indicates that there was  telephonic contact 
between 
and 
on those dates as 
well as 
statements that 
was 
arranging the appointments. 
Q 
All right. 
And if I can refer you to 
Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about 
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December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a 
Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to 
Jane Doe Number Five. 
What evidence do you have to support 
that? 
A 
We have 
have the Western 
received 
Q 
issued 
[statements and we also 
Union receipt showing that she 
that amount of money. 
And those were in response to a subpoena 
on behalf of this grand jury? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
If I could direct you to Overt Act 
Number 82 involving 
What is the 
basis for that Overt Act? 
A 
Again, a review of the phone records 
from 
and 
telephone indicate 
that they had contact at that time. 
Q 
And Overt Act Number 88 states that on 
or about January 26, 2005, Defendant 
reviewed 
a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five. 
What is the basis for that allegation? 
A 
We have reviewed the message pads that 
were recovered during the execution of the state 
search warrant and recovered a message that 
left for 
confirming an appointment 
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that I have a copy of that if you want me to read 
that to you. 
Q 
Sure. 
A 
It's a message for 
dated January 
26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from 
and it 
says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it 
says she is confirming 5:30 p.m. 
Q 
All right. And then with respect to 
Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 115 related to Ms. 
, what is the evidence supporting those Overt 
Acts? 
A 
Again, a review of the phone records of 
and 
We show that there was 
telephonic contact on those dates. 
Q 
And then if I could refer you to 
substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is 
the enticement charge. Can you just remind the 
grand jury of the evidence supporting that 
allegation? 
A 
On or about those dates, a facility of 
interstate commerce was used, specifically the 
telephone between 
, and 
Those telephones were used to set up and 
arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we 
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discussed earlier during the massage the sexual 
activity that took place, the straddling of him by 
where he began to masturbate between 
his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she 
continued to massage him and rub his nipples, him 
asking her to become completely nude. 
He 
her, as we 
talked about. He used a back massager on her on 
at least two occasions, and he had sexual 
intercourse with Felicia as well as performed ora] 
sex on 
He paid 
anywhere from $300 to 
$600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book, 
Victoria Secret underwear. It was 
who had set up the room with the massage table and 
set out the oils. 
And then, of course, we did discuss the 
private car that was sent to her when she wasn't 
available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I 
didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck 
payment for her when she was short on money. So 
that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided 
to 
and she was 17 during all of this 
activity. 
Q 
All right. 
And if I could refer you to 
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Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking 
offense. Is the information that you just 
summarized the same information that supports that 
count? 
A 
Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell 
you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that 
she was 18 on the first visit. 
A couple of visit:.
later they discussed her birthday. They were 
talking about her birthday and her plans for her 
birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said 
something to the effect like: You are going to be 
18? 
And she said yes. 
And he said: So you are not 18? She 
laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and 
they continued on with the massage. So Mr. 
Epstein was aware through that conversation that 
had not yet turned 18. 
Q 
All right. 
Are there any questions 
regarding 
before we continue? All 
right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number 
Six. 
THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the 
traveling count? 
No, we are not going to 
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do those today. 
THE WITNESS: Okay. 
Q 
And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number 
Six's first name and her date of birth? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Six is 
. 
She 
also attended 
High School and her 
date of birth is 
Q 
How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be 
introduced to Mr. Epstein? 
A 
also contacted -- or told 
about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told 
-- which I'm going to refer to her as 
That's what she goes by, but her name is 
That he wanted cute girls to give him 
massages and that he would pay $200. 
We had have contact starting with 
in July of 2000 between 
and that 
phone contact continues until September 2005. 
Between this time period, we have over 200 --
approximately 225 calls between 
and 
brought 
Du r n 
first massage, 
over there and was paid $200 by Mr. 
Epstein. She left. 
performed the first 
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massage topless. 
He asked her to take her skirt 
and her shirt off. 
She said no at first and later in the 
massage, the way 
puts it, is that he talked 
her into it and she removed her shirt, which she 
was not wearing a bra at the time. 
Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He 
asked her to remove her panties and she said no. 
He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the 
massage was over. She was paid $200 for that. 
She, at that point, she did start 
working for Epstein on a regular basis. She 
indicated that she had been there hundreds of 
times over this time period. 
She told us -- and I'm going to read a 
quote to you that she said to me or said to not to 
me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this 
is referring to after the first time that she went 
there. 
She said I first told him that I had a 
problem with it, what happened the first time, 
but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a 
16-year -old girl making six bucks an hour. 
Now that was a statement she made to law 
enforcement. Going through her phone records and 
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during her interview with law enforcement, she 
goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17. 
It's now over a year since she started 
working -- a year and a half since she started 
working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying 
to retrace her age, she did say that, but we 
believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone 
contact. 
So we are not sure when that first 
massage started, but the phone contact with 
began in July of '04 when she would have•
been 17. 
Q 
And just to be clear, during that 
interview with law enforcement, did 
have 
access to her phone records? 
A 
No. 
Q 
And the interviewing officer also didn't 
have access to those records, correct? 
A 
No. 
Q 
So she was just saying she couldn't 
remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time? 
A 
Right. 
As I said, she became kind of a regular. 
He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he 
could touch her. She stated that the massages 
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would progress over time and at first she would 
not take off her panties, then she did. 
She performed the massages naked. He 
would rub 
He also 
He performed oral sex on 
He would masturbate while rubbing himself on 
breasts. 
Later in the times that 
was 
performing the massages, he requested that she 
become sexually involved with 
Mr. Epstein asked 
and 
that if she 
to perform oral sex on 
refused and Mr. Epstein told her 
was to perform oral sex on 
for 
five minutes, he would give her another $200. So 
she did. 
and 
engaged in sexual 
activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would 
also partake in that sexual activity as well. On 
one occasion with all three of them, as we had 
mentioned earlier in a grand jury session, 
the massage was over and 
was standing up near 
the massage table and Mr. Epstein bent her face 
down and held her head and 
I think she described it as that he went 
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four or five times with his penis and 
she had a rule with Mr. Epstein that at first was 
that he would not ever penetrate her with any 
object, anything. 
And when he first 
her on the first time, she, you know, asked him 
why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we 
had done this before. 
And later he continues to 
her. 
On this occasion, she said: What 
are you doing? 
And he said that he just wanted 
to see this. 
Q 
So at the time that that occurred, she 
still had a rule with him, but the rule was that 
he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis? 
A 
Right. 
And Mr. Epstein gave 
-- we'll talk 
about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr. 
Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. 
It only had 
seven miles on it. 
believes that that car was bought 
for her. 
We have reason to believe it was most 
likely rented and we are determining that right 
now, but he gave her this. 
It only had seven miles and she gave 
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that back to him before she got out of high 
school. And she said, and this is her quote: It 
got too sticky for me. 
He wanted more than I was 
willing to give. 
She stated that Epstein requested her to 
have sex with him multiple times and also wanted 
him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him 
and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew 
that that was not going to happen. 
And, again, that's one of the reasons 
why she ended up giving back the car because it 
just was getting a little bit, as she referred to, 
sticky for her. 
After that occasion, where he did 
penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after 
that. Some of the gifts that she received other 
than the car, she describes that as Victoria 
Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she 
received. 
She received Christmas bonuses, movie 
tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David 
Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to 
the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton 
bag. 
was in a play at her high school 
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and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two 
dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had 
them delivered to her high school while she was 
performing at this play. 
He also for her 18th birthday, he flew 
her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was 
flown up there on her birthday and that was done 
because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal 
with the parental consent needed to fly somebody 
under the age of 18 to New York. 
So on her 18th birthday with his 
funding, she flew to New York. She received show 
tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was 
not present in New York at this time. He was 
called away and was not there. 
So she does have friends in New York and 
she stayed with those friends and attended the 
show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets 
for. The other thing about 
is she said that 
she would get paid every time she would go over 
there and she said she feels like she went over 
there hundreds of times. 
She said that sometimes he would just 
have her naked watching TV or reading a book. 
He 
would sometimes just ask her to lay with him 
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naked. She was still always paid and he would 
invite her over for breakfast. 
He would invite her to dinner and 
sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was 
always paid for coming over there. 
Q 
Let me ask about a couple of other 
things. You mentioned the specific conversation 
about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday 
so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent 
for her flight? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And you mentioned the delivery of the 
roses to the high school. 
In addition to those, 
were other events that occurred that should have 
led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein 
to know that she was under the age of 18? 
A 
Yes. One of the things that 
told 
me is that she believed she stayed with him so 
long because she believed that he was going to 
help her get into New York University, NYU. 
She provided him on multiple occasions 
paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, 
you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, 
do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein 
with his influence residing in New York was going 
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to be able to get her into NYU. 
That again is one of the reasons why she 
stayed because she felt that if she held on for 
so long hoping that this dream would come true. 
She is currently attending 
and doing very well. 
Q 
Do we have any other documentation of 
receiving payments from someone who worked 
for Mr. Epstein? 
A 
We have 
manager for Mr. Epstein 
his petty cash receipts 
that he paid out of 
Q 
Now was 
lineup? 
A 
Yes, she was. 
It was a house 
and we were able to get 
and in there is a payment 
his funds to
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ever shown any photo 
Q 
And was she able to identify any of the 
defendants? 
A 
She identified 
Q 
And was that the photo array that was 
shown to her? 
A 
Yes, it was. 
Q 
was 
are counsel for the 
defendants aware of 
Epstein? 
allegations against Mr. 
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A 
Yes. 
Q 
And have they attempted to discredit 
her? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And is one of the bases for their 
attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't 
appear before the State Grand Jury? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Are you aware of whether or not 
was 
ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand 
Jury? 
A 
There was a subpoena issued to her. 
I'm 
not sure if she received that. Either she 
received it the day before or she didn't receive 
it 
she 
at 
is 
all 
up 
and 
in 
I would need to check 
mind you. 
my notes and 
So she was either served the day before 
that grand jury convened or she never received it 
and I would need to check with probably the 
detective for sure on that. 
Q 
Okay. Let's talk about the allegations 
related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed 
indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts 
Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51, 52, 55, 62, 68, 
and 73. 
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If you could tell the grand jury what 
the evidence is that supports those allegations? 
A 
Review of those phone records on those 
dates indicate that there was telephonic contact 
between 
and 
as well as 
statements that she was called by 
prior to 
and while Mr. Epstein was in town. 
Q 
All right. And if I could refer you to 
Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about 
December 4, 2004, Defendant 
provided a 
written message to Defendant Epstein regarding 
Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. 
Could you tell the grand jury about 
that? 
A 
We have reviewed message pads that, 
again, were obtained in the execution of a state 
search warrant that indicates that 
left a 
message for Mr. Epstein regarding 
and 
Britnay, who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have 
that here. 
If I can read it to you? 
Q 
Sure. 
A 
For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time 
is 2:55 p.m. It's from 
would like 
to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, 
is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at 
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7:30. 
Q 
Okay. And if I could refer you to Count 
Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the 
grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the 
dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, 
until December 29th, 2004, what was the 
significance of those dates? 
A 
This would be the time period that ■ 
is still under the age of 18. 
Q 
That she was receiving phone calls from 
someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Okay. 
And then if you could just 
summarize the remainder of the evidence according 
to that count? 
A 
Okay. 
On or about those dates a 
facility of interstate commerce was used, 
specifically the telephone, specifically 
and 
telephones were utilized to 
set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. 
During the massages, Epstein 
breasts. Epstein used the back 
and vibrator directly on 
performed oral sex on 
fondled 
massager 
vagina. Epstein 
and Epstein penetrated 
Alex's 
with his penis. 
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Mr. Epstein introduced 
into the sexual activity with 
and 
engaged in sexual activity while Epstein 
watched and masturbated. 
Epstein 
on 
and when 
for five minutes. 
asked 
to perform oral sex 
she refused he offered her $200 
complied. There were 
different sex toys used on 
including a 
strap-on dildo that 
used. 
Epstein paid 
$200 up to $1 ,000 
depending on the sexual activity that took place. 
had taken 
upstairs. She set up 
for the massage. 
Epstein paid for a trip to New York for 
her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera 
tickets. 
He rented or provided a car to 
He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a 
Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra 
and pantie set. 
He also provided her with a bathing sun 
on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her 
that he was going to help her get into New York 
University. She believed that was the case. She 
provided him with her high school transcript and 
she was 17 at the time. 
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