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FBI VOL00009
EFTA00224077
52 pages
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21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had them delivered to her high school while she was performing at this play. He also for her 18th birthday, he flew her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was flown up there on her birthday and that was done because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal with the parental consent needed to fly somebody under the age of 18 to New York. So on her 18th birthday with his funding, she flew to New York. She received show tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was not present in New York at this time. He was called away and was not there. So she does have friends in New York and she stayed with those friends and attended the show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets for. The other thing about is she said that she would get paid every time she would go over there and she said she feels like she went over there hundreds of times. She said that sometimes he would just have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He would sometimes just ask her to lay with him OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224097
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22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 naked. She was still always paid and he would invite her over for breakfast. He would invite her to dinner and sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was always paid for coming over there. Q Let me ask about a couple of other things. You mentioned the specific conversation about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent for her flight? A Yes. Q And you mentioned the delivery of the roses to the high school. In addition to those, were other events that occurred that should have led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein to know that she was under the age of 18? A Yes. One of the things that told me is that she believed she stayed with him so long because she believed that he was going to help her get into New York University, NYU. She provided him on multiple occasions paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein with his influence residing in New York was going OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224098
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23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to be able to get her into NYU. That again is one of the reasons why she stayed because she felt that if she held on for so long hoping that this dream would come true. She is currently attending Florida State University and doing very well. Q Do we have any other documentation of receiving payments from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment that he paid out of his funds to I'll' Q Now was ever shown any photo lineup? A Yes, she was. Q And was she able to identify any of the defendants? A She identified Q And was that the photo array that was shown to her? A Yes, it was. Q Was -- are counsel for the defendants aware of allegations against Mr. Epstein? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224099
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24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q And have they attempted to discredit her? A Yes. Q And is one of the bases for their attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't appear before the State Grand Jury? A Yes. Q Are you aware of whether or not Alex was ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand Jury? A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm not sure if she received that. Either she received it the day before or she didn't receive it at all and I would need to check my notes and she is up in Tallahassee, mind you. So she was either served the day before that grand jury convened or she never received it and I would need to check with probably the detective for sure on that. Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68, and 73. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224100
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25 1 2 3 If you could tell the grand jury what the evidence is that supports those allegations? A Review of those phone records on those 4 dates indicate that there was telephonic contact 5 between and as well as 6 statements that she was called by prior to 7 and while Mr. Epstein was in town. 8 Q All right. And if I could refer you to 9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about 10 December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a 11 written message to Defendant Epstein regarding 12 Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. 13 Could you tell the grand jury about 14 that? 15 A We have reviewed message pads that, 16 again, were obtained in the execution of a state 17 search warrant that indicates that left a 18 message for Mr. Epstein regarding and 19 who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have 20 that here. If I can read it to you? 21 Q Sure. 22 For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time 23 is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like 24 to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, 25 is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224101
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26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 7:30. Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, until December 29th, 2004, what was the significance of those dates? A This would be the time period that is still under the age of 18. Q That she was receiving phone calls from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q Okay. And then if you could just summarize the remainder of the evidence according to that count? A Okay. On or about those dates a facility of interstate specifically and commerce was used, the telephone, specificallyM telephones were utilized to 20 set up and arrange appointments for Mr Epstein. 21 During the massages, Epstein fondled 22 breasts. Epstein used the back massager 23 and vibrator directly on vagina. Epstein 24 performed oral sex on and Epstein penetrated 25 vagina with his penis. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224102
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27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein introduced into the sexual activity with . and engaged in sexual activity while Epstein watched and masturbated. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on and when she refused he offered her $200 for five minutes. complied. There were different sex toys used on including a strap-on dildo that i used. Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000 depending on the sexual activity that took place. had taken upstairs. She set up for the massage. Epstein paid for a trip to New York for her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera tickets. He rented or provided a car to He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra and pantie set. He also provided her with a bathing suit on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her that he was going to help her get into New York University. She believed that was the case. She provided him with her high school transcript and she was 17 at the time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224103
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28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is that the same evidence that supports that count? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were introduced to Mr. Epstein by Is another Jane Doe who will be discussed at a later time? A Yes. Any questions about Jane Doe Number Six? Yes. A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm allowed to ask this, and you don't have to answer it, but how did the parents do they ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton purse? I mean, how do they not know anything like a car? Q Did you -- have you interviewed parents? A GRAND JUROR: My question is that I OFFICIAL prpnpmtmn 0.-VPV cE, LLC EFTA00224104
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29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is that something that you are going to discuss? In the future. As I mentioned before, there's -- that question is pending and I want to get a definitive answer before we go through that. A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that. A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54 on this. A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the next page. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. The Palm Beach Police Department -- did tell the Palm Beach Police Department that her mother believed that she worked there, and I would need to go back and check, but I believe that she worked there as a -- I want to say like an assistant or answered the phones or something like that. And at one point, her mother thought there might have been more going on and actually did end going over there for a time period, but then she did resume later. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224105
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30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. Any other questions? Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Seven is and her date of birth is Q How did come to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A worked at the mall, and that through working at the mall, and Or Jane Doe Number Six told that she could make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. Epstein. told her that she may have to be naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to she didn't have to. We have the contact, the telephonic contact between beginning in July 2004 and through November of 2005. There is approximately 100 calls between and there is around OFFICIAL BPDORTTNC SRRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224106
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31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 seven calls, approximately seven calls to eight calls between and in between and and approximately stated that she times to Mr. Epstein's house. went about 15 is the first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to High School and does not attend High School. On first massage, took upstairs for the first massage and set up the room. Epstein instructed to leave the room. During the massage, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. She removed only her shirt. described Epstein as being -- she described him as a respective guy, who would converse with her. She said that they discussed different life issues such as where wanted to attend college in the future. He also gave her advice. She didn't have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with her parents. She performed this massage and she was paid $200 for the massage. told us that as the massages OFFICIAL P vs> pmrmn crpirrcE, LLC EFTA00224107
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32 1 2 3 4 continued, they more sexual. further with By would Epstein then progress would try massage, and to go further become and had the third 5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was 6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 7 would fondle breasts. 8 He rubbed her vagina. He did not 9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her, 10 She 1 1 would tell him no on occasions and she would also 12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 13 she did not want him to touch. 14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 15 on vagina while he continued to 16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 18 direction, assisted in giving the 19 massage. 20 And on -- the first time tells 21 us that was setting up the room and she 22 remained in the room and started to undress. 23 was surprised. 24 She was never asked or told this was 25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it OFFICIAL rFPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224108
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33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein. and Epstein began performing sexual acts in front of Epstein used a massager on vagina in front of as well as they both performed oral sex in front of on each other. also touched breasts. She touched her -- touched vagina. She took hand and placed it on her vagina and pulled it back, pulled It away. IIIIII did use the massager directly on vagina. Some of the gifts that received, she did receive also a bathing suit, which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. She received four tickets for her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and , they wired money to In June of 2005, on senior trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they sent her -- wired her, western Unioned her $350, and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San Diego, California, and she also received $200 by OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224109
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34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Western Union. BY Q All right. Anything you want to ask before we go to the Overt Acts? No. All right. Q If I could refer you first to Overt Act Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Six to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you explain what the evidence is supporting that? A Yes. A review of phone records from phone and indicated they had telephonic contact at that time. Q And that was following a telephone contact between Six? and Jane Doe Number A Yes, it was. Q All right. And is that consistent with what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes. Q Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224110
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35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39, 41 , 44, 45, 66, 75, 85, 89, and 90, what is the evidence related to those Overt Acts? A Can we skip 89? Q Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. A A review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on those specific dates as well as the statements of that would call her in advance or call her while Mr. Epstein was in town. Q All right. And those records show that the phone calls originated with telephone? A Yes. Q Now if I could direct you to Overt Act Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a written message to Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. Is that the phone message that you mentioned earlier today? A Yes, it is. Q Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is related to Overt Act Number 89? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224111
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36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A That would be a review of the phone records from as well as a review of the phone records from that there was telephonic contact on that day. Q From IIIIIIII to telephone? A Yes. Q And then Overt Act Number 92, can you tell us what the evidence is related to that? A That is on that day a review of their phone records of phone records and indicates that there was telephonic contact between the two of them on that date. Q Now if I could refer you to Count Number 11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury what the evidence is related to that count? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, between and These phones were utilized to set up and arrange massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. Starting with the third massage, was completely nude and Epstein touched OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224112
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37 1 breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back 2 massager on vagina. He masturbated 3 during the massages. 4 On at least two occasions Epstein 5 involved into the sexual 6 activity. stroked vagina and used 7 the massager on vagina. 8 also placed hand on her 9 vagina, which pulled back. Epstein paid 10 $200 on each these occasions. Epstein 11 also provided her with a bathing suit, four 12 tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th 13 birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th 14 birthday. 15 Epstein andlIIIIIIWestern Unioned 16 on at least two occasions and Epstein 17 provided advice dealing with her bad with 18 credit, with her parents, and her plans for going 19 to college, and was 17 when all this 20 activity took place. 21 Q Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 22 1 1 run through the day before her 18th birthday, 23 correct? 24 A Yes, they do. 25 Now with respect to Count Number 55, is OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224113
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38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that the same evidence that relates to the sex trafficking charge? A Yes. Q Okay. And the date ranges between up until she turns 18? A Yes, it is. Q All right. Any questions about Jane Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And if you could tell the grand jury Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? was born Jane Doe Number Eight is She attended High School and she had been to Mr. Epstein's house approximately 15 times. Q And who first introduced Epstein? A , Jane Doe Number Six. Q And tell us how that contact began. A told 1millthat she could make $200 if she provided Mr. Epstein with a massage. She told her that she would have to take off her clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224114
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39 L 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on the first massage, we have -- I guess should tell you, we have phone contact between and starting February 25, 2005, and that phone contact continues through October of 2005. We have over 50 calls between and and we have approximately 25 calls between ands On that first massage, brought massage table. left the room. and set up the Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered wearing only a towel. massaged Mr. Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated during this massage. I should tell you that told us that -- told law enforcement, that he has the girls take off their clothes, and in this massage she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. She kept her underwear on. He would touch her breasts and he would also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used OFFICIAL. REPORTTNn SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224115
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40 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 On one of the times that she was completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked back before and she -- Epstein told to lay down and that he was going to crack her back like he had done before. When she laid down, Mr. Epstein illilli performed sexual intercourse on He gave her an extra 100, $150. She had made $200 up to this point, so it would be 300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. On another occasion, was brought illIlk into the massage. and Mr. Epstein engaged in sexual acts while would continue to IIIIIII massage Mr. Epstein. Epstein did ask and ato kiss and he watched as they touched each other. I guess, touched I should say touched breasts and continued to touch Mr. Epstein as well as this all went on. As far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein provided to , he gave her a photography book IIMI as well as a digital camera. told us that actually gave her the camera, but it was per OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224116