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and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two 
dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had 
them delivered to her high school while she was 
performing at this play. 
He also for her 18th birthday, he flew 
her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was 
flown up there on her birthday and that was done 
because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal 
with the parental consent needed to fly somebody 
under the age of 18 to New York. 
So on her 18th birthday with his 
funding, she flew to New York. She received show 
tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was 
not present in New York at this time. He was 
called away and was not there. 
So she does have friends in New York and 
she stayed with those friends and attended the 
show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets 
for. The other thing about 
is she said that 
she would get paid every time she would go over 
there and she said she feels like she went over 
there hundreds of times. 
She said that sometimes he would just 
have her naked watching TV or reading a book. 
He 
would sometimes just ask her to lay with him 
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naked. She was still always paid and he would 
invite her over for breakfast. 
He would invite her to dinner and 
sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was 
always paid for coming over there. 
Q 
Let me ask about a couple of other 
things. You mentioned the specific conversation 
about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday 
so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent 
for her flight? 
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Yes. 
Q 
And you mentioned the delivery of the 
roses to the high school. In addition to those, 
were other events that occurred that should have 
led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein 
to know that she was under the age of 18? 
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Yes. One of the things that 
told 
me is that she believed she stayed with him so 
long because she believed that he was going to 
help her get into New York University, NYU. 
She provided him on multiple occasions 
paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, 
you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, 
do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein 
with his influence residing in New York was going 
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to be able to get her into NYU. 
That again is one of the reasons why she 
stayed because she felt that if she held on for 
so long hoping that this dream would come true. 
She is currently attending Florida State 
University and doing very well. 
Q 
Do we have any other documentation of 
receiving payments from someone who worked 
for Mr. Epstein? 
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We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house 
manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get 
his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment 
that he paid out of his funds to I'll'
Q 
Now was 
ever shown any photo 
lineup? 
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Yes, she was. 
Q 
And was she able to identify any of the 
defendants? 
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She identified 
Q 
And was that the photo array that was 
shown to her? 
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Yes, it was. 
Q 
Was 
-- are counsel for the 
defendants aware of 
allegations against Mr. 
Epstein? 
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Yes. 
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And have they attempted to discredit 
her? 
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Yes. 
Q 
And is one of the bases for their 
attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't 
appear before the State Grand Jury? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Are you aware of whether or not Alex was 
ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand 
Jury? 
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There was a subpoena issued to her. 
I'm 
not sure if she received that. Either she 
received it the day before or she didn't receive 
it at all and I would need to check my notes and 
she is up in Tallahassee, mind you. 
So she was either served the day before 
that grand jury convened or she never received it 
and I would need to check with probably the 
detective for sure on that. 
Q 
Okay. Let's talk about the allegations 
related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed 
indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts 
Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68, 
and 73. 
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If you could tell the grand jury what 
the evidence is that supports those allegations? 
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Review of those phone records on those 
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dates indicate that there was telephonic contact 
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between 
and 
as well as 
6 statements that she was called by 
prior to 
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and while Mr. Epstein was in town. 
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All right. 
And if I could refer you to 
9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about 
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December 4, 2004, Defendant 
provided a 
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written message to Defendant Epstein regarding 
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Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. 
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Could you tell the grand jury about 
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that? 
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We have reviewed message pads that, 
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again, were obtained in the execution of a state 
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search warrant that indicates that
left a 
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message for Mr. Epstein regarding 
and 
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who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have 
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that here. 
If I can read it to you? 
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Sure. 
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For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time 
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is 2:55 p.m. It's from 
would like 
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to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, 
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is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at 
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Q 
Okay. And if I could refer you to Count 
Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the 
grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the 
dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, 
until December 29th, 2004, what was the 
significance of those dates? 
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This would be the time period that 
is still under the age of 18. 
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That she was receiving phone calls from 
someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Okay. 
And then if you could just 
summarize the remainder of the evidence according 
to that count? 
A 
Okay. On or about those dates a 
facility of interstate 
specifically 
and 
commerce was used, 
the telephone, specificallyM 
telephones were utilized to 
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set up and arrange appointments for Mr 
Epstein. 
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During the massages, Epstein fondled 
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breasts. Epstein used the back massager 
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and vibrator directly on 
vagina. Epstein 
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performed oral sex on 
and Epstein penetrated 
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vagina with his penis. 
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Mr. Epstein introduced 
into the sexual activity with 
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and 
engaged in sexual activity while Epstein 
watched and masturbated. 
Epstein asked 
to perform oral sex 
on 
and when she refused he offered her $200 
for five minutes. 
complied. There were 
different sex toys used on 
including a 
strap-on dildo that i 
used. 
Epstein paid 
$200 up to $1 ,000 
depending on the sexual activity that took place. 
had taken 
upstairs. She set up 
for the massage. 
Epstein paid for a trip to New York for 
her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera 
tickets. He rented or provided a car to 
He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a 
Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra 
and pantie set. 
He also provided her with a bathing suit 
on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her 
that he was going to help her get into New York 
University. She believed that was the case. She 
provided him with her high school transcript and 
she was 17 at the time. 
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And with respect to Count Number 54, is 
that the same evidence that supports that count? 
A 
Yes, it does. 
Q 
Okay. Before we go on, I know that you 
mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number 
Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were 
introduced to Mr. Epstein by 
Is 
another Jane Doe who will be 
discussed at a later time? 
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Yes. 
Any questions about Jane 
Doe Number Six? 
Yes. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I don't know if I'm 
allowed to ask this, and you don't have to 
answer it, but how did the parents 
do they 
ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton 
purse? 
I mean, how do they not know anything 
like a car? 
Q 
Did you -- have you interviewed 
parents? 
A GRAND JUROR: 
My question is that I 
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noticed you are skipping all the travel. 
Is 
that something that you are going to discuss? 
In the future. As I 
mentioned before, there's -- that question 
is pending and I want to get a definitive 
answer before we go through that. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I must have missed that. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I don't see a Count 54 
on this. 
A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the 
next page. 
A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank 
you. 
THE WITNESS: 
Just to answer a question. 
The Palm Beach Police Department -- 
did 
tell the Palm Beach Police Department that 
her mother believed that she worked there, 
and I would need to go back and check, but I 
believe that she worked there as a -- I want 
to say like an assistant or answered the 
phones or something like that. 
And at one point, her mother thought 
there might have been more going on and 
actually 
did end going over there for a 
time period, but then she did resume later. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 
Any other questions? 
Q 
And we will turn to Jane Doe Number 
Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first 
name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of 
birth? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Seven is 
and 
her date of birth is 
Q 
How did 
come to go to Mr. 
Epstein's house? 
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worked at the mall, and that 
through working at the mall, and 
Or 
Jane Doe Number Six told 
that she could 
make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. 
Epstein. 
told her that she may have to be 
naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to 
she didn't have to. 
We have the contact, the 
telephonic contact between 
beginning in July 2004 and through 
November of 2005. 
There is approximately 100 calls between 
and there is around 
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seven calls, approximately seven calls to 
eight calls between
and 
in between 
and 
and approximately 
stated that she 
times to Mr. Epstein's house. 
went about 15 
is the 
first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to 
High School and does not attend 
High School. 
On 
first massage, 
took 
upstairs for the first massage and set up 
the room. Epstein instructed 
to leave the 
room. During the massage, Epstein asked 
to remove her clothing. She removed only her 
shirt. 
described Epstein as being --
she described him as a respective guy, who would 
converse with her. She said that they discussed 
different life issues such as where 
wanted 
to attend college in the future. 
He also gave her advice. She didn't 
have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her 
credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with 
her parents. She performed this massage and she 
was paid $200 for the massage. 
told us that as the massages 
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continued, they 
more sexual. 
further with 
By 
would 
Epstein 
then progress 
would try 
massage, 
and 
to go further 
become 
and 
had 
the third 
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completely removed all of her clothing. She was 
6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 
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would fondle 
breasts. 
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He rubbed her vagina. He did not 
9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her, 
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would tell him no on occasions and she would also 
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take his hand and remove his hand from places that 
13 she did not want him to touch. 
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Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 
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vagina while he continued to 
16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 
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occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 
18 direction, 
assisted 
in giving the 
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massage. 
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And on -- the first time 
tells 
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us that 
was setting up the room and she 
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was surprised. 
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She was never asked or told this was 
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went. 
and 
both massage Mr. Epstein. 
and Epstein began performing sexual acts in 
front of 
Epstein used a massager on 
vagina in front of 
as well as they both 
performed oral sex in front of 
on each 
other. 
also touched 
breasts. 
She touched her -- touched 
vagina. She took 
hand and placed it on 
her vagina and 
pulled it back, pulled It 
away. 
IIIIII did use the massager directly on 
vagina. Some of the gifts that 
received, she did receive also a bathing suit, 
which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. 
She received four tickets for her 18th 
birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield 
tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and 
, they wired money to 
In June of 2005, on 
senior 
trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to 
Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they 
sent her -- wired her, western Unioned her $350, 
and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San 
Diego, California, and she also received $200 by 
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BY 
Q 
All right. 
Anything you want to ask 
before we go to the Overt Acts? 
No. All 
right. 
Q 
If I could refer you first to Overt Act 
Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, 
Defendant 
caused Jane Doe Number Six to 
make one or more telephone calls to a telephone 
used by Jane Doe Number Seven. 
Could you explain what the evidence is 
supporting that? 
A 
Yes. 
A review of phone records from 
phone and 
indicated they had 
telephonic contact at that time. 
Q 
And that was following a telephone 
contact between 
Six? 
and Jane Doe Number 
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Yes, it was. 
Q 
All right. And is that consistent with 
what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she 
was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, 
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the evidence related to those Overt Acts? 
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Can we skip 89? 
Q 
Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
that there was telephonic contact between 
and 
on those specific dates as well 
as the statements of 
that 
would call her in advance or call her while Mr. 
Epstein was in town. 
Q 
All right. And those records show that 
the phone calls originated with 
telephone? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now if I could direct you to Overt Act 
Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, 
Defendant 
provided a written message to 
Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six 
and Jane Doe Number Seven. 
Is that the phone message that you 
mentioned earlier today? 
A 
Yes, it is. 
Q 
Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and 
can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is 
related to Overt Act Number 89? 
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That would be a review of the phone 
records from 
as well as a review of the 
phone records from 
that there was 
telephonic contact on that day. 
Q 
From IIIIIIII to 
telephone? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And then Overt Act Number 92, can you 
tell us what the evidence is related to that? 
A 
That is on that day a review of their 
phone records of 
phone records 
and 
indicates that there was telephonic 
contact between the two of them on that date. 
Q 
Now if I could refer you to Count Number 
11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury 
what the evidence is related to that count? 
A 
On or about these dates, a facility of 
interstate commerce was used, specifically the 
telephone, between 
and 
These phones were utilized to set up and 
arrange massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. 
During the massages, Epstein asked 
to 
remove her clothing. 
Starting with the third massage, 
was completely nude and Epstein touched 
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breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back 
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massager on 
vagina. He masturbated 
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during the massages. 
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On at least two occasions Epstein 
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involved 
into the sexual 
6 activity. 
stroked 
vagina and used 
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the massager on 
vagina. 
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also placed 
hand on her 
9 vagina, which 
pulled back. Epstein paid 
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$200 on each these occasions. Epstein 
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also provided her with a bathing suit, four 
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tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th 
13 birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th 
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birthday. 
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Epstein andlIIIIIIWestern Unioned 
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on at least two occasions and Epstein 
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provided 
advice dealing with her bad 
with 
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to college, and 
was 17 when all this 
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activity took place. 
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Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 
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Yes, they do. 
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that the same evidence that relates to the sex 
trafficking charge? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Okay. And the date ranges between up 
until she turns 18? 
A 
Yes, it is. 
Q 
All right. 
Any questions about Jane 
Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to 
Jane Doe Number Eight. 
Q 
And if you could tell the grand jury 
Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? 
was born 
Jane Doe Number Eight is 
She attended 
High School and she had been to Mr. 
Epstein's house approximately 15 times. 
Q 
And who first introduced 
Epstein? 
A 
, Jane Doe Number Six. 
Q 
And tell us how that contact began. 
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told 1millthat she could make 
$200 if she provided Mr. Epstein with a massage. 
She told her that she would have to take off her 
clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. 
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on the first massage, we have -- I guess 
should tell you, we have phone contact between 
and 
starting February 25, 
2005, and that phone contact continues through 
October of 2005. 
We have over 50 calls between 
and 
and we have approximately 25 
calls between 
ands 
On that 
first massage, 
brought 
massage table. 
left the room. 
and set up the 
Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered 
wearing only a towel. 
massaged Mr. 
Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated 
during this massage. 
I should tell you that 
told us 
that -- told law enforcement, that he has the 
girls take off their clothes, and in this massage 
she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. 
She kept her underwear on. 
He would touch her breasts and he would 
also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. 
The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used 
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On one of the times that she was 
completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked 
back before and she -- Epstein told 
to lay 
down and that he was going to crack her back like 
he had done before. 
When she laid down, Mr. Epstein 
illilli 
performed sexual intercourse on 
He gave her an extra 100, $150. 
She had made $200 up to this point, so it would be 
300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. 
On another occasion, 
was brought 
illIlk 
into the massage. 
and Mr. Epstein engaged 
in sexual acts while 
would continue to 
IIIIIII 
massage Mr. Epstein. 
Epstein did ask and 
ato 
kiss 
and he watched as they touched each other. 
I guess, touched 
I should say 
touched 
breasts and continued to touch Mr. 
Epstein as well as this all went on. 
As far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein 
provided to 
, he gave her a photography book 
IIMI
as well as a digital camera. 
told us that 
actually gave her the camera, but it was per 
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