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FBI VOL00009
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48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY A GRAND JUROR: The number of times they went to visit versus the number of phone calls. There seems to be a big difference. THE WITNESS: Yes. There's a lot of phone calls and we have phone calls showing up prior to his arrival and during his arrival and some of the phone calls are lengthy and some of them are, you know, seconds. So either maybe they didn't get through. We are looking at a cell phone bill and getting those totals from looking at the cell phone bill and the calls just vary in time length and, you know, the only explanation I guess, you know, would be -- and that's just me giving you my opinion -- is that, you know, either they didn't reach each other, so they would continue to call back and forth. There was a lot of calls between these teenage girls or these adolescent girls as well as the phone activity between and and with the girls. Q All right. And also Special Agent , I know that you testified about this OFFICIAL prpnopTmr CrOVIrE, LLC EFTA00085611
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49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 earlier in terms of the tendency of victims of this type of offense to minimize the number of visits, for example, minimize the conduct that they engaged in? A That is true as well. Q So it is possible that the girls went more than five times or ten times? A Yes. I mean, it's difficult to try to get them to tell you an exact number and that's why we have approximated, and, again, they have minimized either with local law enforcement and now when we go back either through time or just being able to -- you know, the approach, they have been able to tell us a little more of what took place. Again, stated she went hundreds of times. Can we put her down to a number? Two hundred and twenty-five phone calls. You know, we just know that she went a lot of times. You can look at the phone activity of seeing the phone calls that are made prior to his arrival and during his arrival to try to gage when they were there. All right. Any other questions related to Jane Doe Number Eight? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085612
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50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY Okay. Q Then we have two questions that were raised earlier. One of which was whether there is any evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein filmed any of these encounters? A We don't have any evidence at this time. Some of girls were asked that question but there's no evidence to show that he did or indicate that he did. Q All right. And then the second one was we had talked earlier about Mr. Epstein leaving Florida and not returning. What evidence do you have regarding where Mr. Epstein has been since October of 2005? A He has -- and I may have misspoke if I said he has not ever come back. He has come back because of the state charges he has faced. He has had to come into Palm Beach County for that. We do not believe that he has been here other than that since the investigation broke in October of '05, other than having to appear before the state charges. We know where Mr. Epstein resides and we have a partner, ICE, Immigration and Customs OFFICIAL PFronPTTNn CFRIFTCF , LLC EFTA00085613
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51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Enforcement, who can -- is helping us monitor his plane activity, and, although, we were not privy to all of his domestic flights when he comes in and out of the country, we are alerted to that. Q And you mentioned earlier that you interviewed A Yes. , correct? Q Who currently serves in what position of Mr. Epstein? A He is currently the house manager for Mr. Epstein and maintains the property over in Palm Beach. Q And what did he tell you about Mr. Epstein? A He also said that Mr. Epstein has not been back. Q Okay. : Any other questions? All right. You guys get a break next. All right. We will see you -- I will be out of town next week and I will probably see you the week after that. (Witness was excused.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085614
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGEN taken before certitiea our Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085615
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W 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, vs. Plaintiff, IN, Defendants. SPECIAL AGENT APPEARANCES: TESTIMONY COPY Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, March 18, 2008 bib Ldill VIIlleU OL. tes Attorney Foreperson / OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085616
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V 1 imony of SPECIAL AGENT 2 as taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 18, 6 2008. 7 Certified Court 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085617
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Q Good afternoon, Special Agent Would you just remind the grand jury of your name and for whom you work? A I am in West Palm Beach. My official name is and I work for the FBI here Q All right. And you are still one of the case agents on Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Have additional subpoenas been issued on behalf of this grand jury regarding Leap Year? A Yes, they have. Q And have documents been received in response to those subpoenas? A Yes, they have. OFFICIA. RPIDC1RTTNC; SFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085618
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• 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q What subpoenas were issued and what items were received? A The items that are received are in this box for your review at a later time, but starting with the first subpoena that we had received documents back for would be from American Express. The subpoena was issued and we received credit card account information. Q Okay. A Do you want me just to -- Q You can just go through them. A A subpoena was issued to J. Epstein Virgin Island Foundation, Inc., J. Epstein and Company, Epstein Interests, Financial Trust Company, Inc., and we received documents on all three of those except for -- all four of those except for Jeffrey Epstein and Company -- J. Epstein and Company, which we received a letter of no response. The next subpoena was issued to the Palm Beach County School Board and we received transcript request forms. The next grand jury subpoena was issued to , Airport Executive, Town Car Services. We received a verbal that there were no records from Mr. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085619
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• 5 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We issued a grand jury subpoena to the custodian of records for Majestic Theater, which we received ticketing records for. We issued a grand jury subpoena or you issued a grand jury subpoena for the custodian of records at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts and we received ticketing records. We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for the Kravis Center for the Performing Arts and received a letter of no records response. We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for Live Nation Theatrical Broadway Across America. Again, received a response letter of no records. We issued another subpoena for the custodian of records from Live Nation Theatrical Broadway Across America and that we did receive some ticketing records. We issued a subpoena to Bear Sterns and Company, Inc., and we received personnel files and account information. We issued a grand jury subpoena for Wolf Camera and we received transaction records. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085620
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6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We have issued a grand jury subpoena to Amazon.com and received order records. We issued a grand jury subpoena to Federal Express and received shipping records, and all that is contained in this box. Q All right. BY And at the end of our preservation, you will be welcome to look through any of those records and we also will bring them to the next session. A GRAND JUROR: I have a question. Yes. A GRAND JUROR: We subpoenaed information from theaters. I heard you say ticketing information or records from a few of them. Did we subpoena that information to establish location of the defendant or I guess he's not a defendant yet? THE WITNESS: Just as corroborating evidence of testimony provided by the girls. Their statements provided to us. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. A: Q Okay. Special Agent each OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085621
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 member of the grand jury has before them a copy of a chart. Do you also have a copy of this chart entitled Revised Indictment Summary Chart (by victim)? A Yes. Q And then you also provided to everyone a list of Jane Does with photographs? A Yes, I did. Q Okay. Can you just explain to the grand jury how -- which Jane Does we are going to be talking about today? A We are going to talk about Jane Does One through Six and Nine and Ten, and what you have here is a Jane Doe list of One through 19. We will be going through the first Six and Nine and Ten. As you can see, if you look at these two columns you'll see in the indictment we have before you is going to have the new Jane Doe numbers and the column to the right of that shows you what their Jane Doe number used to be. So Jane Does Nine and Ten, when we spoke about those two before, and we will go through that a little bit later, we referred to those as Jane Does Six and Seven. From here on out, we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085622
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8 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 will refer to them as Jane Does Nine and Ten: A GRAND JUROR: I have a question about Jane Doe Number One, and pointed this out. The date of birth is The range of activity dates is 1988 to 2003? THE WITNESS: That's a typo. That should be Thank you for catching that. A GRAND JUROR: I was about ready to have a problem here. I was having a real problem. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. A GRAND JUROR: I was about to take the law into my own hands. THE WITNESS: Let there be noted on the summary chart, there is a typo correction for Jane Doe Number One. The range of activity for her is 1998 to 2003. This chart is a chart that we put together because I have testified in the past as well as you may have heard other testimony regarding some of the Jane Does, and we are going to be talking about them today and in a later session. OFFICIAL PWIDIIPTTMC CPPIITCE, LLC EFTA00085623
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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We want we provided this to you sort of as an aid so that you can go back and access the grand jury transcripts and go to the date that the testimony was provided. If you look at the last column where it says, Grand Jury Transcript Pages, on this form it will tell you the date of the grand jury, who provided that testimony, and the page number where you can find testimony related to those specific Overt Acts and substantive counts. So the two columns next to that -- let's just take Jane Doe Number Two and run through that real quick. Jane Doe Number Two, we have not testified about before. So that is her number and will always remain her number. Her date of birth is The range of activity and that reflects the range of activity that we have her connected to Mr. Epstein and his assistants. The next two columns are the Overt Acts and the associated substantive counts. The Overt Acts support those substantive counts and again the last column you would at that point go to my testimony on May 8th, 2007, OFFICIAL ERVICE, LLC EFTA00085624
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• 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and look on the transcript on Pages Six and Seven, and that would be my testimony for the Overt Acts, the supporting evidence and testimony for Overt Acts One through 18. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q But, Special Agent just so that it is clear, when you testified back in May, you weren't testifying specifically about Jane Doe Number Two, but her name came up in -- with respect to one of the other Jane Does? A Exactly. Q Okay. So any information related to those Jane Does would be in the transcript pages? A Yes. Does that make sense to everyone how we have organized that? BY 1 Q Now Special Agent , if you could look at the proposed indictment, and I'm looking at the Background section of the indictment specifically Paragraphs One through Nine, which deal with Mr. Epstein's background and who he employed. Have you testified about that material OFFICIAL RFPOR- ING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085625
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• • 1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in the past? A Yes, I have. Q And let me just direct you to Overt Two, which is at the top of Page Two. There is a reference to L.G., and I don't believe we have talked about L.G. before. Can you tell the grand jury who that is? is nd she is a personal assistant or an assistant for Mr. Epstein in his New York office. Q All right. And just for the court reporter, is is that correct? A Yes, it is. Q Then Paragraph Three talks about three individuals, , and Can you tell the grand jury who those persons are? is Q And if you look at the summary chart on the second page, there are columns for and Do you see those at the bottom of Page Two? A Yes, I see them. Q And those refer to and where you have testified about OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085626
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• • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 them before or where testified about them? A Yes. Q I know that you was who have testified about Mr. Epstein's residence here in Palm Beach, but if you could look at Paragraph Five of that introductory section, which is on Page Two. Are you -- can you provide the grand jury with the location of Mr. Epstein's New York residence? A Mr. Epstein currently has a property located at 9 East 71st Street, New York, New York. Q If I could direct you to Page Five of the proposed indictment in Paragraphs 18 through 25 of the introductory section. Can you tell the grand jury about where the various victims in this case attended high school? A I can. Starting with Paragraph 18. Would you like me to just run through them? Q Sure. A Jane Doe Number Four attended) High School and High School. Jane Doe Number Five attended igh School. Jane Doe Numbers Six, Eight, and 12, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085627
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• 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 attended High School. I should state that all of these high schools are located in Jane Doe Number Seven attended High School in Jane Doe Numbers Nine, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 attended High School in Jane Doe Number Ten attended High School in Jane Doe Number 1 1 attended the school located in area; Jane Doe Number 13 attended High School in and the Jane Does attended these high schools during some point of the contact with Mr. Epstein. Q Now Special Agent I know that not each and everyone of the Jane Does is listed in this. Did some of the Jane Does leave school before they began their relationship with Mr. Epstein? A Yes, they did. Q Now everyone was handed a copy of a document entitled, Merged Flight Manifests. If I OFFICIAL REPORTIN( SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085628
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 could ask you to take a look at that, and in the proposed indictment if you could turn to Page 32. Special Agent I'm going to ask you about ()vent Acts 191 through 225. Can you tell the grand jury what the basis is for the allegations set forth in 191 through 225? A We received through the issuance of a grand jury subpoena the flight manifest from Mr. Epstein's pilot and that is our evidence to show the travel that Mr. Epstein did, which is displayed in Overt Acts 191 through 225. Q And the chart that is entitled Merged Flight Manifests, what does that include? A This chart will show the grand jury that in January 2004 through -- basically, Mr. Epstein's travel in '04 and '05 on his two personal aircrafts, which would be the Boeing 727 and the Gul£stream. If you look at this chart, the first column is the date of departure, the date that he left, and you'll see airport codes in the next column that tells you the airport that he left and what time he left would be the next time, the departure time. It will tell you what airport he was OFFICIAL PPORTTNC, SPRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085629
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15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 arriving in and what time he arrived at that airport, and the last would be the actual aircraft itself, which aircraft he was traveling on, and just to remind the grand jury, Hyperion is the Gulfstream and JEGE is the Boeing 727. Q And who created this chart, the Merged Flight Manifests Chart? A The FBI. Q And where did they gather this information from? A We subpoenaed or the grand jury issued a subpoena to the pilot and pilots of Mr. Epstein and through counsel the pilots gave us a copy of the flight manifest for those two years and I have here a set of the flight manifests that were provided to us by the grand jury subpoena and have marked each of the Overt Acts from 191 to 225 So that if any time the grand jury would like to come and look at the actual manifest the pilots gave us, you'll be able to see the data that this form was taken from. Q Okay. Thank you. Before I go on, does anyone have any questions about those Overt Acts and where this information came from? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085630