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Q 
And with respect to Count Number 54, is 
that the same evidence that supports that count? 
A 
Yes, it does. 
Q 
Okay. Before we go on, I know that you 
mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number 
Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were 
introduced to Mr. Epstein by 
Is 
another Jane Doe who will be 
discussed at a later time? 
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Yes. 
MS. VILLAFANA: Any questions about Jane 
Doe Number Six? 
Yes. 
A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm 
allowed to ask this, and you don't have to 
answer it, but how did the parents -- do they 
ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton 
purse? 
I mean, how do they not know anything 
like a car? 
BY MS. VILLAFANA: 
Q 
Did you 
have you interviewed 
parents? 
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No. 
MS. VILLAFANA: Yes. 
A GRAND JUROR: My question is that 
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noticed you are skipping all the travel. 
Is 
that something that you are going to discuss? 
MS. VILLAFANA: 
In the future. 
As I 
mentioned before, there's -- that question 
is pending and I want to get a definitive 
answer before we go through that. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I must have missed that. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I don't see a Count 54 
on this. 
A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the 
next page. 
A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 
I'm sorry. Thank 
you. 
THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. 
The Palm Beach Police Department -- 
did 
tell the Palm Beach Police Department that 
her mother believed that she worked there, 
and I would need to go back and check, but I 
believe that she worked there as a -- I want 
to say like an assistant or answered the 
phones or something like that. 
And at one point, her mother thought 
there might have been more going on and 
actually 
did end going over there for a 
time period, but then she did resume later. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 
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MS. VILLAFANA: 
Any other questions? 
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Okay. 
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And we will turn to Jane Doe Number 
6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first 
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name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of 
birth? 
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Jane Doe Number Seven is 
and 
her date of birth is 
Q 
How did 
come to go to Mr. 
Epstein's house? 
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worked 
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Jane Doe Number Six told 
through working at 
at the mall, and that 
the mall, and 
or 
that she coulc 
make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. 
Epstein. 
naked for this massage, 
she didn't 
told her that she may have to be 
but if she didn't want to 
have to. 
We have the contact, the 
telephonic contact between 
and 
beginning in July 2004 and through 
November of 2005. 
There is approximately 100 calls between 
and 
and there is around 
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seven calls, approximately seven calls to 
in between 
and 
and approximately 
eight calls between 
and 
stated that she went about 15 
times to Mr. Epstein's 
the 
house. 
is 
first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to 
High School and does not attend 
High School. 
On 
first massage, 
took 
upstairs for the first massage and set up 
the room. Epstein instructed 
to leave the 
room. During the massage, Epstein asked 
to remove her clothing. She removed only her 
shirt. 
she described 
converse with 
8 different life issues such as where 
described Epstein as being 
him as a respective guy, who would 
her. She said that they discussed 
wanted 
to attend college in the future. 
He also gave her advice. She didn't 
have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her 
credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with 
her parents. She performed this massage and she 
was paid $200 for the massage. 
told us that as the massages 
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continued, they 
more sexual. 
further with 
By 
would 
Epstein 
then progress 
would try 
massage, 
and 
to go further 
become 
and 
had 
the third 
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completely removed all of her clothing. She was 
6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 
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would fondle 
breasts. 
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He rubbed hei 
He did not 
9 penetrate 
did not digitally penetrate her, but 
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did stroke and rub 
on the outside. She 
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would tell him no on occasions and she would also 
12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 
13 she did not want him to touch. 
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Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 
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on 
while he continued to 
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masturbate during these massages. On at least two 
17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 
18 direction, 
assisted 
in giving the 
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massage. 
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And on -- the first time 
tells 
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us that 
was setting up the room and she 
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remained in the room and started to undress. 
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was surprised. 
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She was never asked or told this was 
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went. 
and 
both massage Mr. Epstein. 
and Epstein began performing sexual acts in 
front of 
Epstein used a massager on 
's 
in front of 
as well as they both 
performed oral sex in front of 
on each 
other. 
also touched 
breasts. 
She touched her -- touched I 
She took 
hand and placed it on 
I 
and 
pulled it back, pulled It 
away. 
did use the massager directly on 
Some of the gifts that 
received, she did receive also a bathing suit, 
which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. 
She received four tickets for her 18th 
birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield 
tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and 
, they wired money t 
In June of 2005, on 
senior 
trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to 
She ran out of money and they 
sent her -- wired her, Western Unioned her $350, 
and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San 
Diego, California, and she also received $200 by 
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Western Union. 
Q 
All right. 
Anything you want to ask 
before we go to the Overt Acts? 
No. 
All 
right. 
BY MS. VILLAFANA: 
Q 
If I could refer you first to Overt Act 
Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, 
Defendant 
caused Jane Doe Number Six to 
make one or more telephone calls to a telephone 
used by Jane Doe Number Seven. 
Could you explain what the evidence is 
supporting that? 
A 
Yes. 
A review of phone records from 
phone and 
indicated they had 
telephonic contact at that time. 
Q 
And that was following a telephone 
contact between 
and Jane Doe Number 
Six? 
A 
Yes, it was. 
Q 
All right. And is that consistent with 
what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she 
was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, 
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the evidence related to those Overt Acts? 
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Can we skip 89? 
Q 
Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
that there was telephonic contact between 
and 
on those specific dates as wP1 1 
as the statements of 
that Sarah 
would call her in advance or call her while Mr. 
Epstein was in town. 
Q 
All right. 
And those records show that 
the phone calls originated with 
telephone? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now if I could direct you to Overt Act 
Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, 
Defendant 
provided a written message to 
Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six 
and Jane Doe Number Seven. 
Is that the phone message that you 
mentioned earlier today? 
A 
Yes, it is. 
Q 
Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and 
can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is 
related to Overt Act Number 89? 
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arrange massage appointments 
During the massages, Epstein asked 
remove her clothing. 
Starting with 
was completely nude and 
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That would be a review of the phone 
records from 
phone records from 
telephonic contact 
Q 
From Ms. 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And then 
as well as a review of the 
on that day. 
to 
that there was 
telephone? 
Overt Act Number 92, can you 
tell us what the evidence is related to that? 
A 
That is on that day a review of their 
phone records of 
phone records 
and 
indicates that there was telephonic 
contact between the two of them on that date. 
Q 
Now if I could refer you to Count Number 
11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury 
what the evidence is related to that count? 
A 
On or about these dates, a facility of 
interstate commerce was used, specifically the 
telephone, between 
, and 
These phones were utilized to set up and 
for Mr. Epstein. 
the third massage, 
Epstein touched 
to 
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breasts. 
He stroked her vagina. 
He used a back 
massager on 
He masturbated 
during the massages. 
On at least two occasions Epstein 
involved 
into the sexual 
activity. 
stroked 
and used 
the massager on 
hand on her 
also placed 
which 
pulled back. Epstein paid 
$200 on each these occasions. Epstein 
also provided her with a bathing suit, four 
tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th 
birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th 
birthday. 
Epstein and 
Western Unioned 
on at least two occasions and Epstein 
dealing with her bad 
provided 
with advice 
credit, with her parents, and her plans for going 
to college, and 
was 17 when all this 
activity took place. 
Q 
Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 
11 run through the day before 
correct? 
her 18th birthday, 
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Yes, they do. 
Q 
Now with respect to Count Number 55, is 
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that the same evidence that relates to the sex 
trafficking charge? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Okay. And the date ranges between up 
until she turns 18? 
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Yes, it is. 
Q 
All right. 
BY 
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Any questions about Jane 
Doe Number Seven? 
All right. 
We'll go on to 
Jane Doe Number Eight. 
Q 
And if you could tell the grand jury 
Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? 
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Jane Doe Number Eight is 
was born 
She attended 
High School and she had been to Mr. 
Epstein's house approximately 15 times. 
Q 
And who first introduced 
tc 
Epstein? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Six. 
Q 
And tell us how 
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told 
$200 if she provided 
that contact began. 
that she could make 
Mr. Epstein with a massage. 
She 
She told her that she would have to take off her 
clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. 
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on the first massage, we have -- I guess I 
should tell you, we have phone contact between 
and 
starting February 25, 
2005, and that phone contact continues through 
October of 2005. 
We have over 50 calls between 
and 
calls between 
first massage, 
and we have approximately 25 
and 
On that 
brought 
and set up the 
massage table. 
left the room. 
Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered 
wearing only a towel. 
massaged Mr. 
Epstein's leg and back. 
Mr. Epstein masturdated 
during this massage. 
I should tell you that 
told us 
that -- told law enforcement, that he has the 
girls take off their clothes, and in this massage 
she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. 
She kept her underwear on. 
He would touch her breasts and he would 
also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. 
The massages became more sexual. 
Mr. Epstein used 
a massager on 
over her panties, 
old us that on one or two occasions 
she was completely nude and he did use the 
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massager directly on 
On one of the times that she was 
completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked 
back before and she -- Epstein told 
lay 
down and that he was going to crack 
er •ack like 
he had done before. 
When she laid down, Mr. Epstein 
performed sexual intercourse on 
stated 
of 
She 
that he did pull out and ejaculated outside 
He gave her an extra 100, $150. 
up to this point, so it would be 
had made $200 
300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. 
On another occasion, 
was brought 
into the massage. 
nd Mr. Epstein engaged 
in sexual acts while 
ould continue to 
massage Mr. Epstein. 
Epstein did ask 
and 
to kiss 
and he watched as they touched each other. 
I guess, touched -- I should say 
touched 
breasts and continued to touch Mr. 
Epstein as well as this all went on. 
As 
provided to 
as well as a digital camera. 
far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein 
he gave her a photography book 
told us that 
actually gave her the camera, but it was per 
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Mr. Epstein's instructions. She was 17 at the 
time all this activity 
Q 
Epstein's 
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She told 
And what did 
knowledge of 
She told Mr. 
occurred. 
say about Mr. 
her age? 
Epstein how old she was. 
him that she was 17. 
Q 
Now 
was interviewed shortly after 
the activity ended, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Do you remember the approximate date 
when Mr. Epstein left Palm Beach County and has 
returned only for court appearances? 
A 
I believe it was October 6th. It was 
the beginning of October was the last time we have 
him -- or when he left the area. 
Q 
And 
shortly 
A 
Q 
explain 
was interviewed by the police 
after that time? 
Yes, she was interviewed on November 8. 
And during that interview, did she 
when the last time was when she had seen 
Mr. Epstein? 
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She had said shortly before her 
birthday. 
Q 
And she said it was actually the first 
week in October? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Now was 
before 
A 
later called to appear 
the State Grand Jury? 
Yes. 
Q 
And during that testimony, did she 
did she confuse the last day that she saw Mr. 
Epstein? 
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Yes. She stated -- and this was done 
believe in July of '06, so this would have been 
over a year and some months. She did state that 
the last time she saw Mr. Epstein was the day 
before her birthday and that is when the sexual 
intercourse took place. 
Q 
Okay. So she thought it was the day 
before her birthday, but based on her earlier 
statement and the records that we have, we know it 
was a few days before her birthday? 
A 
Q 
Okay. 
Let's -- actually, 
before we go to the Overt Acts, do you mind 
if I ask the agent a question outside? 
I 
think I caught another error. Excuse us for 
a moment. 
and the witness exit the 
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Grand Jury Room.) 
( 
and the witness enter the 
Grand Jury Room.) 
MS. VILLAFANA: There is a discrepancy 
in Overt Act Number 138. The chart that I 
provided to you says -- has the name 
as 
the relevant defendant and in the indictment 
it says 
So we are trying to confirm 
who the right caller was. 
A GRAND JUROR: Can I ask a question? 
Sure. 
A GRAND JUROR: You had said that he had 
not been in Florida? 
Uh-huh. 
A GRAND JUROR: How do they know that he 
has not come into Florida? 
Okay. 
We can address 
that without the agent. 
A GRAND JUROR: Could I ask a question? 
Sure. 
A GRAND JUROR: Is there any way that he 
might have been filming this? Does anybody 
know about it, I mean, you know? 
Dkay. 
We will answer 
those after we finish going through these 
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BY 
items. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
I knew there was a 
reason you were hauling all those records 
back and forth. 
A GRAND JUROR: After the case is over, 
how long do you actually have to keep all 
that? 
This is all on the 
record. 
A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. It's curiosity. 
Okay. All right. 
Q 
So from your review of the phone 
records, Special Agent 
Overt Act 
Number 138 relates to 
A 
Yes. 
Okay. All right. 
Now let's run through 
Overt Acts 110, 128, 133, 136, 138, 139, 141 , 142, 
145, 152, 154, and 156. 
Could you let the grand jury know what_ 
the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? 
A 
A review of the phone records indicate 
on those dates there was telephonic contact 
between the 
and 
as well as 
statements that 
called her 
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and in advance as to when Mr. Epstein was in town 
to set up appointments. 
Q 
And if you could look at Overt Acts 124, 
146, and 149. 
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A review of phone records between 
and 
indicates there was 
telephonic phone contact on those dates. 
Q 
Phone calls originating with 
ending with 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And Overt Act Number 147? 
A 
Overt Act 147, a review of the phone 
records indicate that there was telephonic contact 
between 
and 
on that 
date as well. 
Q 
And then Overt Act Number 150, says that 
on September 8, 2005, Defendant 
received a 
telephone call from Jane Doe Number Eight, and 
what is the evidence related to that? 
A 
The evidence on that date is that a 
review of those phone records indicates that 
contacted 
Q 
So with respect to that one, the phone 
call originated with 
with 
as opposed to being 
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Okay. 
Now if you could turn to Count 
Number 12 and summarize for the grand jury the 
evidence supporting that charge of the enticement 
of a minor? 
A 
On or about these dates, a facility of 
interstate commerce was used, specifically the 
telephone, specifically 
, and 
phones were 
u tilized to set and arrange massages, massage 
appointments for Mr. Epstein. 
During the massages, Epstein would ask 
to remove her clothing. She would perform 
the massages either in her underwear or completely 
nude. Epstein masturbated while 
these massages. 
Epstein used a massager on 
vagina with her panties on and with them off. 
Epstein had intercourse with 
He 
ejaculated outside 
On one occasion, Epstein brought 
into the sexual activity, introduced 
into the sexual activity. They performed 
sex acts on each other, that being 
and Jeffrey Epstein, in front of 
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and she continued to massage Mr. Epstein. 
At Mr. Epstein's request, 
and 
did kiss as well as 
touched 
LedbLS. 
Epstein paid 200 to 300 to $350 to 
nd that depended on the sexual activity. 
Epstein gav 
photography as well as a digital camera provided 
to her by 
and 
of age. 
as well as bra and underwear sets, 
told Mr. Epstein that she was 17 years 
Q 
All right. And is that the same 
evidence with respect to Count Number 56? 
A 
Yes, it is. 
Before we go to those 
other two questions that were posed, are 
there any questions that relates to Jane Doe 
Number Eight? 
Yes, sir. 
A GRAND JUROR: 
Is there any explanation 
from any of the girls about the number of 
calls versus the number of times they say 
they went there? 
more time. 
I'm sorry. Say it one 
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