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Case 9:08-cv-801 19-KAM Document 180 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/24/2009 Page 42 of 51 42 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 NPA. I think that many of the questions you asked will be answered when you read the NPA, and I think it's very unfair of everyone who is sitting in front of you who have the NPA to be discussing with you whether it's being breached, whether there should be a stay when you're not that familiar with it. If we would give you a copy of it, I think it would be much more helpful in making your ruling. THE COURT: Maybe Judge Colvat will resolve this issue for me. MR. JOSEFSBERG: Even if he doesn't, Your Honor, : believe we are allowed to show it to you. THE COURT: I'll tell you what: I'll wait for Judge Colvat to rule, and then if he rules that it should remain sealed, then I'll consider whether or not I want to have it submitted to me in camera. Anything else, Mr. Josefsbcrg? MR. JOSEFSBERG: No. I thank you on behalf of myself_ and the other counsel on the phone for permitting us to appear by phone. THE COURT: All right. Anyone else have anything they want to add? FITC-EDWARD ra war s on e a ane oe. I only had one issue here, and when I read your motion Lhat you wanted to hear on the narrow issue of just defense in the civil actions filed against him violates the TOTAL ACCESS COURTROOM NETWORK REALTIME TRANSCRIPTION EFTA00232777
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Case9:08-u-801194(kM Document 180 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/24/2009 Page43of51 43 1 non-prosecution agreement, I was expecting that we were going 2 to hear something from the Government similar to the affidavit 3 that was filed by Mr. Epstein's attorneys wherein he indicates 4 as of the day of this affidavit attached to the motion to stay, 5 the U.S. Attorney's Office has taken the position that Epstein 6 has breached the non-prosecution agreement and it names 7 specifically investigation by Epstein of this plaintiff and 8 other plaintiffs, Epstein's contesting damages in this action. 9 Epstein, or his legal representatives, making statements to the 10 press. And we didn't hear any of those things. 11 So that's what I was expecting that the U.S. 12 Attorney's Office was going to expound on and say, yes, we've 13 made some communications to Epstein. He's violating. 14 What we're hearing right now, today, just so that I'm 15 clear, and I think the Court is clear now, is that the 16 non-prosecution agreement is what it is. There have been no 17 violations, but for maybe what Mr. Josefsberg brought up. 18 But there are very few restrictions on Mr. Epstein. 19 He went into this eyes wide open. And whether or not I agree 20 with the agreement, how it came to be in the first place, is 21 neither here nor there. Milt there have been no violations or breaches up to 23 this point. And his affidavit that was filed, I'm just 24 troubled by where it even came from. I mean, it's making 25 specific allegations that the U.S. Attorney's Office is TOTAL ACCESS COURTROOM NETWORK REALTIME TRANSCRIPTION EFTA00232778
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Case9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 180 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/24/2009 Page44of51 44 1 threatening a breach, and this is part of the motion to stay, 2 which we're all battling here. 3 So I just wanted to indicate to the Court or remind 4 the Court that there have been specific allegations made, the 5 United States Attorney's Office is making these allegations of 6 i breach, which we haven't heard any of the evidence of. 7 Thank you. 8 THE COURT: All right. 9 Ms. , did you want to respond to that 10 suggestion that there were other allegations of breach besides 11 the one that you've just mentioned today? 12 i MS. : No, Your Honor. 13 THE COURT: Thank you. I appreciate your giving me 14 the information, which I think has been very helpful today, and 15 I'll try and get an order out as soon as possible. 16 [Court adjourned at 11:10 a.m.]. 17 CERTIFICATE 18 I hereby certify that the foregoing is an accurate 19 transcription of proceedings in the above-entitled matter. 20 s/Larry Herr 21 DATE LARRY HERR, RPR-CM-RMR-FCRSC 22 Official United States Court Reporter 400 N. Miami Avenue 23 24 25 Miami, FL 33128 - email: (Fax) Quality Assurance by Proximity Ungulbase Technologies EFTA00232779
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Sivu 868 / 1120
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tli 5.1 QUINNEY COLLEGE OF LAW N UNIVERSITY OF UTAH -Wifredo A. Ferrer United States Attorney Southern District of Florida 99 N.E.4th Street Miami, FL 33132 G. CASSELL Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law Telephone: 801-585-5202 cassellp@kw.utah.edu December 10, 2010 Re: Request for Investigation of Jeffrey Epstein Prosecution Dear Mr. Ferrer: I am writing as someone with extensive experience in the federal criminal justice system — as a former Associate Deputy Attorney General, Assistant United States Attorney, federal judge, and currently criminal law professor —to alert you to what seems to be the most suspicious criminal case I have ever encountered. I ask that you investigate whether there were improper influences and actions during your office's criminal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein, particularly regarding the decision to enter into a binding non-prosecution agreement blocking his prosecution for numerous federal sex offenses he committed over many years against more than thirty minor girls. As I am sure you are well aware, in 2006 your office opened a criminal investigation with the FBI into allegations that for years Jeffrey Epstein sexual abused dozens of minor girls in his West Palm Beach mansion. The FBI soon developed compelling evidence that Epstein had in fact committed numerous federal sex offenses with more than 30 minor girls. And yet, your office ultimately entered into a plea arrangement which allowed Epstein escape with a non- prosecution agreement that ensured he would have no federal criminal liability and would spend no more than 18 months in state jail. For sexual offenses of this magnitude — in a case with more than 30 witnesses providing interlocking testimony, all made automatically admissible by virtue of Fed. R. Evid. 414 —this is an extraordinary outcome. Why did your office enter into this highly.unusual non-prosecution arrangement with Epstein? Suspicion begins with the point that Epstein is a politically-connected billionaire. But that wouldn't be troubling without considerable other evidence that something went terribly wrong with the prosecution for other, improper reasons. Consider the following highly unusual facts: First, it appears that Epstein was tipped off before the execution of a search warrant at his home. We know that lead state police officers -- Detective Recarey and Police Chief Michael Reiter -- complained that the house was "sanitized" by the time they arrived to serve a search warrant for child pornography. This sanitation was evident by the various computer wires hanging with no computers attached. Housekeeper Janusz Banasiak later testified in a civil www.law.utah.edu • Main Office • Facsimile 332 South 1400 East, Room 101 • Salt Lake City, Utah 94112-0730 EFTA00232787
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deposition that Epstein's assistant, a and another man (unknown) were instructed to remove, and did in fact remove, multiple computers from Epstein's home shortly before the search warrant was served. The fact that there could well have been a tip off is apparently suspected by federal authorities. Second, there is evidence that one of the senior prosecutors in your office joined Epstein's payroll shortly after important decisions were made limiting Epstein's criminal liability — and improperly represented people dose to Epstein. During the federal investigation of Epstein, was a senior Assistant U.S. Attorney in your office. As we understand things, he was a direct supervisor of the line prosecutor handling the case and thus was well aware of details of the Epstein investigation and plea negotiations. We further believe that he was consulted on issues related to the prosecution of Epstein and Epstein's co-conspirators, including specifically issues related to whether Epstein employees and pilots should be prosecuted for their involvement in Epstein's sexual offense. We further believe that he personally and substantially participated in making such decisions about the course of the criminal investigation. Within months after the non-prosecution agreement was signed by your office, left your office and immediately went into private practice as a white collar criminal defense attorney. His office coincidentally happened to be not only in the same building (and on same floor) as Epstein's lead criminal defense counsel, lack Goldberger, but it was actually located right next door to the Florida Science Foundation -- an Epstein-owned and -run company where Epstein spent his "work release." While working in this office adjacent to Epstein's, undertook the representation of numerous Epstein employees and pilots during the civil cases filed against Epstein by the victims — cases that involved the exact same crimes and exact same evidence being reviewed by the U.S. Attorney's office when he was employed there. Specifically, he represented (Epstein's number one co-conspirator who was actually named as such in the NPA), his housekeeper (Louella Ruboyo), his pilots Larry Morrison, Larry Visoski, David Rogers, William Hammond and Robert Roxburgh. (Hammond and Roxburgh were not deposed but the others were.) Our understanding is that his representation of these individuals was paid for, directly or indirectly, by Epstein. was well aware of what evidence your office and federal investigator had collected against Epstein and about the minor girls who were his victims. As a consequence, he —luew-vvtrat-evidence-the attorneys-fef the-victims Were-licit-1g HP also knew what each of those witnesses had said, if anything, to federal and state investigators during the criminal investigation. We have been unable to place our fingers on the federal regulations governing such later representation. We do know, however, that such actions appear to be in direct contravention of the Florida ethical rules regarding attorneys who leave government employment. For • 2 EFTA00232788
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example, Florida R. Prof. Conduct 4-1.11(a) provides "la) lawyer shall not represent a private client in connection with a matter in which the lawyer participated personally and substantially as a public officer or employee unless the appropriate government agency consents after consultation." Similarly, Florida R. Prof. Conduct 4-1.11(b) provides that "[a) lawyer having information that the lawyer knows is confidential government information about a person acquired when the lawyer was a public officer or employee may not represent a private client whose interests are adverse to that person inia matter in which the information could be used to the material disadvantage of that person." Both these rules appear to have been violated. But entirely apart from the details of ethical rules, the fact that one of your prosecutors was involved in making important decisions about the scope of criminal liability for Epstein and his associates and then — after criminal liability was significantly limited — representing numerous people at Epstein's behalf raises serious questions. At the very least, there is the strong appearance that may have attempted to curry favor with Epstein and then reap his reward through favorable employment. At the very worst, there may have been advance discussions — we simply don't know at this point. Third, Epstein appears to have deliberately kept from victims in the case correspondence with your office and the Justice Department that might have shed light on improper influences. • with other capable attorneys, I was involved in representing one of Epstein's victims who filed a federal civil case against Epstein. Suspecting that Epstein may have improperly influenced your office, we immediately served discovery requests on Epstein for all the correspondence with your office regarding the plea negotiations. Eleven months of hard litigation ensued, in which Epstein made every conceivable argument against production. Finally, late in June of this year, his appeals exhausted, Epstein produced the correspondence to us. However, in violation of the court order, he redacted the correspondence so that he provided only emails and other statements from your office — not his emails and statements to your office. More significantly, even though he was under court order to produce all correspondence between his attorneys and your office, Epstein secretly withheld correspondence by several of his most I-Sh-powered attorneys — namely Ken Starr and Lilly. Sanchez. Epstein settled the case with within days after this limited production, and we did not realize the absence of what must have been critical discussions between your office and Starr and Snachez (among others). Epstein's refusal to allow us to see that information raises the suspicion in our minds that there must have been unusual pressures being brought to bear during the plea discussions that would have been revealed had Epstein complied with his production obligations. ourth, fere aywe Ts-to-have-been-an unprecedented level of secrecy between your office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this case. The FBI was responsible, along with state and local police agencies, for building the case against Epstein. They appear to have developed an overwhelming criminal against him. And yet, when your office signed the non- prosecution agreement with him, it is not clear to us that the FBI was consulted about this decision. Indeed, we have suspicions that the FBI was not informed of this decision until, perhaps, months later. 3 EFTA00232789
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Supporting this suspicion is our on-going litigation regarding the treatment of the victims in this case. As you know from our draft pleadings that we have discussed with your office, we believe there is compelling evidence that the victims and their attorneys were deceived about the existence of a non-prosecution agreement for months in order to avoid what certainly would have been a firestorm of controversy about such lenient treatment of a repeat sex offender. Our impression from the evidence we have been able to obtain so far is that the FBI was similarly kept in the dark — not consulted about or even told about the NM. While a certain amount of tension has always existed between federal prosecuting and investigating agencies, not even informing the FBI about the Epstein NPA seems highly unusual. All of these strange facts -- as well as the facts that we are alleging in our crime victims' litigation — lead us to think that there was something rotten with the way this case was handled. Epstein could have faced years and years in prison for numerous federal sex offenses. And yet he managed to contrive to walk away with no federal time at all (and only minimal state time). We respectfully ask you to investigate through appropriate and independent channels the handling of the Epstein (non)prosecution. Thank you in advance for considering this request. I would be happy to provide any other additional information that would be useful to you. 4 EFTA00232790
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U.S. Department of Justice
United States Attorney
Southern District of Florida
500 South Australian Ave., Suite 400
IVest Palm Beach. FL 33401
(561) 820-8
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December 5, 2008
VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL
Brad Edwards, Esq.
2028 Harrison Street, Suite 202
Hollywood, Florida 33020
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Notification of Work Release
Dear Mr. Edwards:
By virtue of this letter, the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of
Florida asks that you provide the following notice to your clients,
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The U.S. Attorney's Office has learned that Jeffrey Epstein has applied to
participate in the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office's ("PBSO") work release program, and PBSO
has granted that application. Mr. Epstein is reportedly working for The Florida Science Foundation
at 250 South Australian Avenue, Suite 1404, West Palm Beach, FL 33401. After work each day,
Mr. Epstein returns to the Palm Beach County Stockade. While outside the Stockade, Mr. Epstein
is electronically monitored via a GPS system and an ankle bracelet. Pursuant to the work release
rules, Mr. Epstein is to go directly from the Stockade to his office, remain at the office throughout
the work day, and then return directly to the Stockade.
We regret that we were unable to inform your client of these developments prior to Mr.
Epstein's release, but our Office was never notified of Mr. Epstein's application, and we only
learned of his release more than six weeks after he began participating in the program. Should you
or your client have any questions regarding the work
, please direct your inquiries
to Captain David Sleeth, Palm Beach Sheriff's
By:
Sincerely,
R. Alexander Acosta
United States Attorney
ssistant
Attorney
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U.S. Department of Justice
United States Attorney
Southern District of Florida
500 South Australian Ave., Suite 400
h FL 33401
Facsimile:
December 11, 2008
VIA HAND DELIVERY
Captain David Sleeth
Palm Beach Sheriff's Office
Corrections Division
3228 Gun Club Road
West Palm Beach, FL 33406
Re:
Work Release Application of Jeffrey Epstein
Dear Captain Sleeth:
The U.S. Attorney's Office recently learned that Inmate Jeffrey Epstein applied for
and was approved for participation in the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office's ("PBSO") work
release program. Through a request for public records, I have received a copy of Mr.
Epstein's work release file. After doing some Internet research of public records and making
a few telephone calls, I discovered some inaccuracies and omissions in Mr. Epstein's file that
I wanted to bring to your attention. During a recent meeting, Roy Black, one of Mr.
Epstein's attorneys, invited us to share our concerns with PBSO.
gligibility for Participation
I understand that Mr. Epstein would be ineligible for participation in the work release
program if he committed three violations of F.S.S. 796 within the past five years. Mr.
Epstein has been charged with and convicted of a felony violation of F.S.S. 796.07. In order
to be convicted of a felony violation of that statute, one must commit "a third or subsequent
violation." In other words, Mr. Epstein has committed at least three violations of Section
796.07, and in his "Alternative Custody Program Placement Synopsis," Mr. Epstein's charges
are described as "Recommit: Prostitution."
In addition to those three violations, Mr. Epstein also has been convicted of violating
F.S.S. 796.03, procuring a person under the age of 18 for prostitution. Throughout his
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CAPTAIN DAVID SLEETH DECEMBER I I, 2008 PAGE 2 paperwork, this violation is referred to simply as "prostitution." The charge is not a solicitation of prostitution charge, it is a procurement of a minor to engage in prostitution. Florida courts have defined the offense as "inducing a victim to engage in sexual activity" for money and "persuading, inducing, or prevailing upon a person to do something sexual" for financial gain. In other words, the statute addresses the recruiting of minors who have not previously been involved in prostitution to engage in sexual activity for commercial gain to a recruiter or "pimp"/"madame." The Florida Legislature has acknowledged the significant difference between solicitation under F.S.S. 796.07 and procurement of minors under F.S.S. 796.03 by requiring persons convicted of violating F.S.S. 796.03 to register as sex offenders. The distinction may be meaningful to the victims of Mr. Epstein's offenses, who could feel that they are being stigmatized as "prostitutes." Inaccuracies and Omission in Work Release Application and Related Documents Throughout the records related to Mr. Epstein's work release placement, he is alternatively referred to as working for "The Florida Science Foundation" or "self- employed," and Mr. Epstein lists his salary as $250,000. Mr. Epstein describes himself as "returning to work" and "eligible for re-employment" at The Florida Science Foundation. Please be advised that the only W-2 that Mr. Epstein provided is from Financial Trust Company, Inc., which shows that Mr. Epstein was employed in the U.S. Virgin Islands at a salary of $180,785.62, not $250,000. Mr. Epstein provided to you no documentation regarding his pre-incarceration employment with "The Florida Science Foundation" or its corporate alter-ego, "The C.O.U.Q. Foundation, Inc." As you will see, the Foundation, its offices, and Mr. Epstein's purported job schedule were all created on the eve of Mr. Epstein's incarceration in order to provide him with a basis for seeking work release. The Florida Science Foundation was not registered with the State of Florida and had no office space or telephone number until after Mr. Epstein was already incarcerated. The application filed with the State of Florida and signed under penal of *u y Richard Kahn lists Mr. Kahn's and the Foundation's telephone number as ' C1 ." That is the telephone number of Atterbury, Goldberger and Weiss—one of the law firms representing Mr. Epstein. Richard Kahn is a partner at the law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell in New York and has no association with the Atterbury firm. Checking public records available on the internet, I located the IRS returns of "The C.O.U.Q. Foundation, Inc." for fiscal years 1999 through 2006 (which covers the period EFTA00232794
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CAPTAIN DAVID SLEETH DECEMBER 11, 2008 PAGE 3 through 2/28/07).' These sworn filings show that Mr. Epstein worked for the Foundation for only one hour per week and earned no compensation. (See page 6 of each return.) All of these returns were signed under penalty of perjury by either Mr. Epstein or Darren Indyke, who is listed in Mr. Epstein's work release file as Mr. Epstein's "supervisor." Mr. Epstein's representations concerning his prior work duties and salary may violate the salary and employment verification requirements of C.O.P. #926.01(V)(CX7) and (8). In response to your requirement of "a detailed work schedule," Mr. Indyke has provided the following two sentences: [Mr. Epstein's] duties will require him to work six days a week, Monday through Saturday, at the Foundation's office located at 250 S. Australian Avenue, Suite 1404, West Palm Beach, Florida from the hours of 8:00 A.M. to 8:00 P.M. As President of the Foundation, Mr. Epstein will be responsible for the general oversight and management of the Foundation, and particularly, to seek out, evaluate and determine worthy charitable causes to which the Foundation may make contributions. Mr. Indyke did not disclose that Mr. Epstein only worked one hour per week prior to his incarceration and has provided no explanation of why Mr. Epstein could perform these duties in one hour per week before he was incarcerated but now needs to spend 72 hours each week to do the same job. Again, this appears to be inconsistent with C.O.P. #926.01(V)(CX7). Mr. Indyke has signed the "Alternative Custody Unit Program Agreement" as Mr. Epstein's "employer." In that Agreement, Mr. Indyke promises to "notify the Alternative 'The returns are available online at the following public websites: FY2006: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDoctunents/2007/133/996/2007-133996471-0391c8db-F.pdf FY2005: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2006/133/996/2006-133996471-02c9625e-F.pdf FY2004: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2005/133/996/2005-133996471-02056acf-F.pdf umentsi2004, i33/996/2UU4-133W6471-1-r.pcIf FY 2002: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2003/133/996/2003-133996471-1-F.pdf FY2001: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2002/133/996/2002-133996471-1-F.pdf FY2000: http://wwvv.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2001/133/996/2001-133996471-1-F.pdf FY1999: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2000/133/996/2000-133996471-1-F.pdf FY1998: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/1999/133/996/1999-133996471-1-F.pdf EFTA00232795
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CAPTAIN DAVID SLEETH DECEMBER I I, 2008 PAGE 4 Custody Unit immediately if the Participant: (1) Fails to appear for work at the scheduled time; and (2) Leaves the place of employment prior to the scheduled time." Both in this form and in Mr. Indyke's letter in support of Mr. Epstein's application, Mr. Indyke neglects to inform the Sheriffs Office of two significant facts. First, Mr. Indyke lives and works in the New York metropolitan area. He likely will not be present at Mr. Epstein's workplace, so he may not know if Mr. Epstein "fails to appear for work" or "leaves the place of employment." In that event, Mr. Indyke also will not be able to supervise Mr. Epstein's actual work to determine whether he is truly doing the work of The Florida Science Foundation? Second, Mr. Indyke does not "employ" Mr. Epstein. Instead, Mr. Epstein "employs" Mr. Indyke. Mr. Epstein is the President and founder of The Florida Science Foundation and Mr. Indyke is its Vice President. More importantly, Mr. Epstein is also the founder and President of the Financial Trust Company, his for-profit corporation. Mr. Indyke is Mr. Epstein's subordinate at that entity as well. One of Mr. Epstein's attorneys has suggested that Mr. Epstein is using his time on work release to manage investments resulting in investment income of millions of dollars. If that is true, then Mr. Epstein is acting outside of the scope of his employment with The Florida Science Foundation. Instead, that would be in keeping with Mr. Epstein's work for his for-profit corporation, which would inure to the benefit of Mr. Indyke. Because that work would result in a financial benefit to him, and because he is Mr. Epstein's subordinate at that corporation, Mr. Indyke may be reluctant to inform the Sheriffs Office of this violation of the terms of Mr. Epstein's Work Release contract. The "references" listed by Mr. Epstein all appear to have the same conflict of interest. Mr. Epstein did not list any past or present co-workers, supervisors, or clients. Instead, he has listed four attorneys who are currently retained—and paid—by Mr. Epstein. Their attorney- client privilege obligations might further restrain them from notifying the Sheriff's Office if Mr. Epstein was not abiding by the work release rules. As I previously mentioned to Colonel Gauger, the decision regarding work release is completely within the discretion of the Sheriff's Office. The purpose of this letter is simply to provide you with information concerning Mr. Epstein's offenses and his work situation. Judge Pucillo, who conducted the change of plea and sentencing, heard the factual proffer and imposed Mr. Epstein's sentence. She has not been consulted regarding Mr. Epstein's 'On the application for registration of the Florida Science Foundation with Florida's Department of State, Mr. lndyke lists his true address in Livingston, New Jersey. EFTA00232796