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Case 9:08-cv-80736-..AM Document 291-27 Entered on . 3D Docket 01/21/2015 Page 5 of 5 Page 105 1 that her husband's law firm had represented Mr. 2 Epstein. And maybe even done damage to the point 3 that because that happened it should be handled by 4 another circuit. 5 This was a case that I felt 6 absolutely needed the attention of the State 7 Attorney's Office, that needed to be prosecuted in 8 state court. It's not generally something that's 9 prosecuted in a federal court. And I knew that it 10 didn't really matter what the facts were in this 11 case, it was pretty clear to me that Mr. Krischer 12 did not want to prosecute this case. 13 Q Did he, in fact, make that clear to you at 14 some point verbally? 15 A Not in those exact words. But the 16 suggestion that multiple victims and some of the 17 crimes, felonies, that he should write a notice to 18 appear for a misdemeanor and the scheduling of a 19 grand jury on an issue like this is extremely rare. 20 The fact that he and I had an 21 excellent relationship. I was the speaker at his 22 swearing in ceremony. And that he wouldn't return 23 my phone calls, I mean it was clear to me by his 24 actions that he could not objectively look at this 25 case. Page 106 1 Q At some point, did you feel, or did you 2 become aware, that maybe he had been threatened in 3 some regard, either regarding his job or personally 4 in any regard? A No. 6 MR. CRITTON: Form. 7 BY MR. KUVIN: Q You're aware that obviously his position 9 is an elected position? 10 A lam aware. 11 Q Did you know whether or not he had had any 12 discussions with anyone about his political career 13 if this case did not go a certain way; did you ever 14 become aware of that in any regard? 15 MR. CRITTON: Form. 16 THE WITNESS: No. He had already publicly 17 announced he wasn't running for re-election. 18 MR. KUVIN: All right. This is actually a 19 good stopping point for a quick lunch if you 20 want to take a quick one, I just have to eat. 21 I'm hopefully not far from concluding. 22 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're off the record at 23 12:35. This is the end of tape 2. 24 (Recess) 25 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're back on the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 107 record at 1:44. This is the beginning of tape 3. BY MR. KUVIN: Q Okay. When we left off we were talking about Barry Krischer's office. And before I move on from that subject I just have one other question. Are you aware of any contact that was made with Mr. Krischer's office from anyone in the democratic party or the DNC at all? MR. CRITTON: Form. THE WITNESS: Relative to this case? BY MR. KUVIN: Q Yes, relative to the Epstein case? A No. Q Are all of the officers that were involved in the investigation listed or contained within the incident report that we've marked as Exhibit 2, and were there any additional officers that were involved that may not be listed in there? A Typically and generally when you say involved, I mean that could encompass all sorts of different people. It might be -- I don't even know that this was the case but it might ask the patrol officer in the area to collect license tags from a street or something like that. I mean if they Page 108 1 aren't writing a report and they aren't doing 2 something that's probably important later on as a 3 witness, they might not appear in there. But the 4 detectives who conducted the investigation are 5 listed in there from what I recall the last time I 6 read it, and it's been a while, but as far as I 7 know. 8 Q At any point, did you have to remove for 9 any reason anyone in your department from the 10 investigation for any reason? 11 A No. It took place over a fairly long 12 period of time so people were transferred and so on, 13 but I didn't personally remove someone for any 14 reason. 15 Q And it may not have been you personally, 16 but just to make sure that it encompasses all 17 potential iterations of that question, was anyone 18 removed for any reason other than just someone 19 transferring out? 20 A Do you mean for -- I think you have to 21 explain that. 22 Q Were any of the investigating police 23 officers removed for any potential conflicts, 24 refusal to follow direction, any reason, other than 25 just a transfer out of the department for some Pleasanton, 27 (Pages 105 to 108) Greenhill, Meek and Associates EFTA00188988
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Case 9:08-cv-80736....AM Document 291-28 1 2 3 4 5 Page 2 ROMA IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE ENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, CASE No.502008CA037315900004B AB 6 VOLUME! OF II 7 JEFFREY EPSTEIN 6 AND 9 Defendants. 10 11 12 DEPOSMON OF 13 DETECTIVE. JOSEPH RECAREY 14 Friday, March 19, 2010 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Reported By: 23 Cynthia Hopkins, RPR, FPR Notary Public, State of Florida 24 Prose Can Reporting Job No.: 1509 25 "a".. 1 Page 3 2 UNTIED STATES DISTRICT COURT 3 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 4 CASE NO. 10-80309 5 JANE DOE NO. 103, 6 7 -vs- VOLUME I OF II 8 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 9 Defendant. 10 11 12 DEPOSITION OF 13 DETECTIVE JOSEPH RECAREY 14 Friday, March 19, 2010 15 9:37 - 5:12 m 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Reported By: 23 Cynthia Hopkins, RPR, FPR Notary Public, State of Florida 24 Prose Court Reporting Job No.: 1509 25 Entered on . .SD Docket 01/21/2015 Page 2 of 5 1 APPEARANCES: 2 Oa Mho/ford= Plaintiffs," 3 SPENCER T. KUVrN, UfRE K I 6 7 On behalf of the Plaintiff:1.u.. and lane Doe: a 9 BRADLEY J. ®WARDS, ESQUIRE FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS 10 IRMAN 13 On owe 1 dutch 8: 14 JESSICA ARBOUR, ESQUIRE .t.,410WITZ. P.A. 15 16 17 18 19 20 ICAIIIERINE W. EZELL, ESQUIRE 21 22 23 in 24 25 Sera& Ahatowildasexabiseatanney.con On behalf ache Hatt Jane Does 101, 102/M 103: Page .; Page 1 Appeantnces oontirhted.. 2 On Wulf of the Pluntiffs. 3 ISIDRO MANUEL GARCIA, PIQIIIRE MUNGER 4 7 TARA A FINNIGAN, ESQUIRE GAN, P.A. 8 10 11 12 On betalfofthe Defendant kIlier EPOS: MICIIAEL PIKE ESQUIRE 13 , LUITER & COLEMAN, LLP 15 16 and 17 JACK ALAN GOLDBERGER. ESQUIRE ER ER & WEISS, P.A. 18 20 21 and 22 MILTON 0. WEINBERG, ESQUIRE OF MILTON O. WEINBERG 23 25 2 (Pages 2 to 5) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. EFTA00188991
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Case 9:08-cv-80736-.,AM Document 291-28 Entered on _SD Docket 01/21/2015 Page 3 of 5 Page 279 1 Q. I mean, I'm sorry for such a bad question, 2 but in looking at these property receipts, I just 3 don't see where it tells me how much time each 4 interview had taken. So, I mean, is there an 5 average? 6 A. That's not going to indicate on any property 7 receipt. There is no... B Q. Right. Okay. Have you ever seen the 9 nonprosecution agreement? 10 A. No. 11 Q. Have you ever seen the attached list of 12 victims that was attached as an addendum to the 13 nonprosecution agreement? 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 THE WITNESS: I believe the Chief had a 16 copy of it. He may have, you know, done one of 17 these, but, no, not in my physical hands. 18 MR. PIKE: And just for the record when 19 the witness said — 20 THE WITNESS: I held it up. 21 MR. PIKE: -- one of these, he held up 22 Exhibit 29. 23 MR. EDWARDS: Which said memorandum. 24 MR. PIKE: Memorandum. 25 THE WITNESS: I just held it up. Page 281 1 A. I remember getting documents from Alan 2 Dershowitz which were flight logs pertaining to 3 Mr. Epstein's plane. And I subpoenaed the information 4 from Jet Aviation, but I don't, I don't recall preparing 5 a flight log. 6 Q. Okay. Do you remember receiving 7 information from Jet Aviation directly? 8 MR. PIKE: Form. 9 THE WITNESS: Jet Aviation does not keep 10 records according to them as to who flies on 11 what plane. I guess you can just drive up to a 12 plane, board it. They have no idea who's on 13 the, who is flying on the plane. They have 14 records of when the plane comes in, if the 15 plane is serviced, and when the plane leaves. 16 BY MR. EDWARDS: 17 Q. Did you ever attempt to check with customs 18 or FAA on any of the passengers that have ever been 19 on international flights with Jeffrey Epstein or on 20 his planes? 21 MR. PIKE: Form. 22 THE WITNESS: I'm trying to recall. 23 BY MR. EDWARDS: 24 Q. At the current time do you have any 25 knowledge of that being done by either the U.S. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 280 BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. If a memorandum exists and it is the attached addendum to the nonprosecution agreement containing the names of the underage victims, would that be something in the possession currently of the Palm Beach Police Department? MR. PIKE: Form. THE WITNESS: I don't believe so. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Is that something that's been destroyed or also -- MR. PIKE: Form. THE WITNESS: I never received a copy of it so... BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Have you ever seen it? A. Like 1 said, I may have seen it. I may have been shown it, you know, and just by holding it up and I am only using this exhibit as an example. It may have been just shown to me like this but not in my hands where I actually read the entire document. MR. PIKE: Move to strike. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. In your investigation, did you prepare a flight log summary? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 282 Attorney's office or the FBI? A. I have no idea what the FBI does. They are primarily one way. You give them the information and nothing comes back, so... Q. I am starting to get that idea. I am understanding that. Okay. A. But you know, and I work with them almost on a daily basis, so I am in direct contact with them. And still I have yet to see information come back the other way. Q. Just so the record is clear, when you say you're working with them on a daily basis, when you're in the Organized Crime Unit on other cases, correct? A. Yeah, and I am also assigned to the JTTF, the Joint Terrorism Task force here in West Palm Beach. Q. My understanding from reading your reports is that you also subpoenaed phone records of numerous individuals, correct? A. Correct. Q. One of those individuals is Jeffrey Epstein? A. I believe so. A. Yes. 39 (Pages 279 to 282) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601-051.976.2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkIns (601-051.976.2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkIns (601-051.976.2934) sa2a5ddb-fa81-O(6-b3b7-dcda51494142 EFTA00188992
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Case 9:08-cv-80736-..AM Document 291-28 Entered on —.3D Docket 01/21/2015 Page 4 of 5 Page 299 1 stuck around just to assist the victims. 2 BY MR. EDWARDS: 3 Q. And when you talk about the statement that 4 you provided, did you present testimony related to 5 all of the minor females that you discovered to have 6 come in contact with Jeffrey Epstein or only the 7 four or five names that ultimately were at the end 8 of your probable cause affidavit? 9 MR. PIKE: Form and compound. 10 'NE WITNESS: As far as my testimony at 11 the grand jury, I only answered the questions 12 that were asked of me by the state. At that 13 point it was Lanna Belohlavek. 14 I'm sorry about the last name. Won't 15 know how to spell her last name. 16 BY MK EDWARDS: 17 Q. And in talking with the State Attorney's 18 Office during the investigation, did you indicate to 19 them the number of underage females that you were 20 aware had come in contact sexually with Mr. Epstein? 21 MR. PIKE: Form and assumes facts not in 22 evidence. 23 THE WITNESS: Yes, they were aware of the 24 probable cause affidavit which indicated all 25 the facts. Page 301 1. between the Palm Beach Police Department and the 2 State Attorney's Office? 3 A. Yes, there was. 4 Q. And -- 5 A. This case was originally brought to their 6 attention very early on in the investigation to which 7 they were, you know, very gung-ho, very let's go, let's 8 do this, up until, up until, up until the meeting with 9 Alan Dershowitz and the State Attorney. And then it, it 10 all took a turn. 11 Q. Were you at that meeting? 12 A. 1 attended one meeting where I believe it 13 Dershowitz, Krischer, and Belohlavek. 14 MR PIKE: Object to form. 15 BY MR. EDWARDS: 16 Q. What was said during that meeting? 17 MR. PIKE: All right. With regard to this 18 line of questioning, I just want to be clear 19 that I have form objections to this line of 20 questioning. And the fact that under various 21 Federal Rules, I believe it's 408, 410 as well 22 as various rules under Florida Evidence Code, 23 some of these discussions are protected as 24 potential plea negotiations. So, having said 25 that... 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 300 BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. And can you recall what their position was on the various acts that are related in the probable cause affidavit? And ultimately I am asking why is it that they were not interested in hearing from all of the girls and only a select few? MR. PIKE: Form and compound. THE WITNESS: That's a question that you're going to have to ask Lanna Belohlavek because she was aware of all the people that I submitted to her, and yet she choose three people to appear before the grand jury, one knowing that she was not going to be able to appear. MR. PIKE: Move to strike. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. And who was the person that was not going to be able to appear? A. That would have been Jane Doe No. 103. Q. Do you know why she was unable to appear? A. Because it was finals week in her university and the limited time that they had scheduled the grand jury and the time that it would have been for her to make arrangements to come down was very short. Q. Was there a disagreement about this case Page 302 1 BY MR. EDWARDS: 2 Q. What was said during these, this meeting 3 that you attended? 4 A. Several of the girls' MySpaces were discussed. 5 MySpace being the social network. They all had 6 MySpaces. And the girls, the girls were actually who 7 had the MySpaces had inputted, you know, various 8 different things regarding alcohol use or marijuana use 9 or that kind of thing. 10 Q. And what was brought up at that meeting as 11 to the relevance of whether or not these females 12 that had been to Jeffrey Epstein's house while 13 underage used alcohol or drugs? What was the point 14 of that? 15 MR. PUCE: Form. 16 THE WITNESS: To show that the character 17 of the girls were not, was not to be believed. 18 BY MR. EDWARDS: 19 Q. Okay. It was specifically to attack their 20 credibility? 21 MR. PIKE: Form, move to strike. 22 THE WITNESS: Correct. 23 BY MR. EDWARDS: 24 Q. So, at that point in time who was making 25 those arguments on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein? PROSE COURT REPORTING Electronically signed by cynthla hopktns (601-051-976-2934) Electronically signed by eynthia hopkins (601-051.976-2934) Electronically signed by cynthla hopkins (601-051.976.2934) 44 (Pages 299 to 302) AGENCY, INC. aa2a5ddb-1481-06-b3b7-deda51494142 EFTA00188993
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Case 9:08-cv-80736...AM Document 291-28 Entered on . .SD Docket 01/21/2015 Page 5 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 307 attorneys have been unanswered and messages remain unreturned. Is that a statement that you agree with? A. Absolutely. Q. How many messages do you think that you left the State Attorney's Office that were unreturned? A. Quite a few. I actually showed up at Lanna's office because I had left her several messages and didn't, didn't return get a return phone call. And it was during the time where: We're going to the grand jury, no, we're not going to grand jury-, yes, we're going; no, we're not. And it was, I believe, the following day when we were supposed to go to the grand jury and I still had not heard from her as to what time nor had I received a subpoena So, I had contacted her numerous times during that day. I would say three to four times during that day. In the afternoon actually showed up at her office where she was sitting in her office. Q. Did you speak with her? A. Yes, I did. Q. And what happened within that conversation? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 309 1 A. Correct. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. So, are you talking about A.D., C.L., S.G., and Jane Doe No. 103? MR. PIKE: Form. THE WITNESS: From S.G.'s family I had gotten multiple phone calls during that day. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. During any of the meetings -- how many meetings are you aware of that Mr. Dershowitz participated in with the State Attorney's Office? A. There were a couple. Like I said, I attended one. MR. PIKE: Form. THE WITNESS: I didn't attend the second one. I want to say two to three. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. And he is a person who also is found in the message pad as somebody who has called Jeffrey Epstein's home, correct? A. As far as I can recall, yes. Q. And did he ever indicate to them that he was actually at the home on various occasions when some of these underage girls would come over to 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 308 MR. PIKE: Form. TI-LE WITNESS: There was actually a time where there was a plea negotiation being discussed where it was to one count of felony, five years probation, and I believe no one had been contacted regarding to that negotiations. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. When you say no one, are you speaking about the police or victims? MR. PIKE: One second. Form. I'm going to move to strike and I am going to continue to assert the same privileges under the Federal Rules 408, 410, and 401.9. I'm sorry. Go ahead. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. When you say no one had been contacted, are you speaking about no police officers that were on the case or no victims? A. Both the police officers and the victims because I was getting phone calls from the victims' parents as to what time are we needed. Q. And when you say we were getting phone calls from the victims' parents, are those the victims that ultimately were listed as victims in the, in the plea that transpired? Page 310 1 Mr. Epstein's house? 2 MR. PIKE: Form. 3 THE WITNESS: Not that I recall. 4 BY MR. EDWARDS: 5 Q. In fact, was he trying to convey to the 6 State Attorney's office that you should not believe 7 these girls that they were at his house at all 8 because they have credibility problems? 9 MR. PIKE: Form, asked and answered. 10 THE WITNESS: That's, that was the 11 impression I received, yes. 12 MR. EDWARDS: The next portion is going to 13 take a long time. I mean it's getting into the 14 juice of it. So, are we at a point that you 15 want to stop rather than getting into something 16 that's going to take a long time? 17 MS. O'CONNOR: How long? 18 MR. EDWARDS: Couple of hours. 19 MS. (YCONNOR: I need to stop. 20 MR. KUVIN: Okay. 21 MR. PUCE: All right. So we are going to 22 break. We have an agreement on the record that 23 Detective Recarey, and correct me if I am 24 wrong, Ms. O'Connor will get back to us through 25 you sometime next week with a few available 46 (Pages 307 to 310) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthla hopkins (601-051.976.2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601-061-976-2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601.051-976-2934) aa2aftddb-fa81-41%-b3b74/cda61494142 EFTA00188994
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