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VOL00011

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1 BY MR. SCAROLA:
2 Q. Yes. Thank you very much, sir.
3 A. Go on.
4 Q. I intend --
5 MR. SCOTT: Since you're both smiling,
6 there seems to be some humor that I'm missing
7 here. I guess I --
8
MR. SCAROLA: Well, I'm missing the humor
9 too.
10 BY MR. SCAROLA:
11 Q. Let's go to Composite Exhibit Number 10.
12 A. Yeah.
13 Q. The first page of that composite exhibit
14 is a photocopy of pages from your personal calendar
15 in January 2001, correct?
16 A. That's right, yes.
17 Q. Another Court TV appearance on January 11,
18 correct?
19 A. January 11.
20 Q. Yes, sir. Thursday, January 11, entry in
21 the left-hand column, Court TV.
22 A. Entry on -- yes, January -- I see it as --
23 I see it on January 12. I don't see it on
24 January 11, but...
25
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1 BY MR. SCAROLA:
2 Q. I'm sorry, maybe it is January 12, but
3 some time between the 11th and 12th, either on the
4 11th or on the 12th, it's Court TV, correct?
5 A. No, no, no. You're just totally
6 Q. It's the 12th --
7 A. -- wrong -- it's the 12th, yes.
8 Q. Okay. Good. Thank you.
9 A. It's clearly stated on the 12, yeah.
10 Q. Okay. And then on Friday, the 19th, a
11 week later, another Court TV appearance, correct?
12 A. 19th. Yes.
13 Q. Okay. And on the 26th on Friday,
14 another Court TV appearance, correct?
15 A. That's what it says, yes. These were
16 all --
17 Q. During this period of time --
18 MR. SCOTT: Whoa. Let -- let him finish
19 his answer.
20 A. These are all scheduled appearances. I
21 assume that I did them. These -- these were when
22 they requested me to -- to do them, I would do them,
23 yes.
24 BY MR. SCAROLA:
25 Q. Okay. And it looks like you're appearing
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1 on a scheduled basis every Friday during this period
2 of time?
3 A. I don't think that was right. Yeah, I
4 don't think that was right. I think that they
5 called me when they wanted me. And it may have been
6 several Fridays in a row, but I think it depended on
7 breaking news at the --
8
Q. What is "scheduled appearance"
9 MR. SCOTT: Well, wait a minute. Let him
10 finish his questions [sic].
11 A. It would depend very much on whether there
12 was a particular trial because I would be the
13 commentator on the trial, along with other lawyers.
14 And there were some days when there were trials and
15 some days when there weren't and I would be
16 available because I was living in New York at the
17 time.
18 BY MR. SCAROLA:
19 Q. On Tuesday, the 16th, there is an entry
20 that says Epstein, right?
21 A. On Tuesday, the 16th?
22 Q. Yes, sir.
23 A. Where are we? Which calendar now?
24 Q. Page 2. Page 2 of the composite, Tuesday,
25 the 16th, Epstein.
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1 MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute. Let him get to
2 it.
3 A. 2 of the composite. Page 2, and what
4 what day are we on?
5 MR. SWEDER: Do we even have it?
6 MR. SCOTT: I'm sorry. Excuse me. Do we
7 have copies of this exhibit?
8 MR. SCAROLA: I've given you copies of
9 everything --
10 THE WITNESS: Were these produced in
11 discovery?
12 MR. SCOTT: I assume.
13 A. Okay. What are we up to? What page?
14 BY MR. SCAROLA:
15 Q. Page 2 of Composite Exhibit Number 10.
16 MR. SCOTT: Okay. Now, stop.
17 BY MR. SCAROLA:
18 Q. Tuesday, the 16th.
19 MR. SCOTT: What year are we talking about
20 now?
21 MR. SCAROLA: 2001, the only year covered
22 in this composite exhibit.
23 A. Yeah, dinner foreign policy Epstein, that
24 was dinner we had at Jeffrey Epstein's house with a
25 group of very distinguished foreign policy experts,
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1 yes.
2 BY MR. SCAROLA:
3 Q. All right, sir. Let's go to the next
4 page. I've just focused on this period of time in
5 January 2001 and on Friday, January 12 --
6 A. So we're going back to Friday, January 12.
7 Yeah.
8 Q. Your wife is in Cambridge, correct?
9 A. No, I don't think so. My wife was living
10 in New York with me at the time. I don't see any
11 record of her being in Cambridge.
12 She was -- we were living together in
13 New York at NYU downtown. I was a visiting scholar.
14 Having been appointed by John Sexton of NYU to be a
15 visiting scholar, we were there for the year. And
16 my wife was with me during the year. Our daughter
17 was in school in New York. She went to Little Red
18 Schoolhouse in New York. And we had -- our life was
19 in New York for a period of one year.
20 Q. And on Friday, January 12, you had another
21 massage, right?
22 A. I don't see anything on my record that --
23 Q. Massage, A.D.?
24 A. We must be looking at the different pages.
25 Q. Friday, January 12, page 4 --
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1 A. Who's --
2 Q. -- of Composite Exhibit 10.
3 MR. SCOTT: Let me see the page you're
4 talking about so he can
5 MR. SCAROLA: I've given you the entire
6 calendar.
7 MR. SCOTT: Come on, Jack.
8 MR. SCAROLA: I've given you the entire
9 composite --
10 THE WITNESS: So you're talking about my
11 wife's --
12 MR. SCAROLA: Fourth page -- fourth page
13 of Exhibit 10. You have Exhibit 10, I've given
14 a copy of that.
15 MR. SCOTT: I understand it and he has it
16 front of him and I'm trying to get him to the
17 right page. Thank you. Please take it down.
18 BY MR. SCAROLA:
19 Q. Fourth page, Composite Exhibit 10.
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Friday, January 12.
22 A. Okay. That's very simple. We were both
23 in Cambridge and I had a massage in Cambridge. How
24 do I know that? Because it had basketball. And
25 that's where I play and watch basketball was in
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1 Cambridge. So probably I was in Cambridge if it
2 says B ball 3:30, 4:15 and says Cambridge with Ella,
3 so I'm sure I was in Cambridge.
4 Q. All right. So --
5 A. But I'm -- I'm looking at my wife's
6 calendar. I can't tell you and nor can you tell me
7 where I was at that period of time.
8 Q. So, the basketball entries are references
9 to your watching basketball in Cambridge?
10 A. No. They could be playing basketball. I
11 played basketball in those days --
12 Q. Watching or playing basketball?
13 MR. SCOTT: Let him finish his answer,
14 please.
15 A. I either watched basketball or played
16 basketball, yeah. I did not go to basketball games
17 in New York, to my recollection, unless the Celtics
18 were in New York and maybe we can check --
19 MR. SCOTT: You've got about five minutes,
20 Counsel.
21 BY MR. SCAROLA:
22 Q. The Celtics didn't play from 4:15 to 5:00,
23 did they?
24 A. No, but I did.
25 Q. You did?
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1 A. Uh-huh.
2 Q. Okay. Or from 3:30 to 4:15, that would be
3 a playing time for you in Cambridge; is that
4 correct?
5 A. You'd be asking me to speculate. I can't
6 speculate based on my wife's calendar. It says
7 utility bill, Reservoir address. That suggests
8 Cambridge. Reservoir is our house in Cambridge.
9 Q. So, it would appear that this is another
10 massage that you got somewhere?
11 A. But I would like to also say one thing. I
12 don't -- I at least wonder were these records
13 available to your clients at the time they made the
14 false accusations against me or are they
15 after-the-fact constructs designed to simply try to
16 find excuses to justify their false allegations? It
17 seems to me the latter is probably the case.
18 Q. And you are going to have an opportunity
19 through your counsel to ask those questions.
20 A. And we will.
21 Q. And my clients are anxious to be able to
22 answer those questions.
23 A. Not as anxious as I am to hear their
24 answers.
25 Q. Okay.
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1 MR. SCOTT: Okay. Let's wrap it up.
2 MR. SCAROLA: Not quite.
3 MR. SCOTT: Yeah, it's 12:30. I'm ending
4 this. That gives you three and a half hours.
5 We take a lunch break and then we have three
6 and a half.
7 MR. SCAROLA: We don't need three and a
8 half hours for lunch.
9 MR. SCOTT: No, I didn't say that. I said
10 we take an hour break and then we have three
11 and a half hours with your client, just like...
12 MR. SCAROLA: If -- if that's what you
13 want to do --
14 MR. SCOTT: That's the fair thing to do
15 because that's why we're dividing it equally
16 and I suggested that --
17 MR. SCAROLA: I will state -- I will state
18 for the record that Exhibits 2, 3 and 4 --
19 excuse me, Exhibits 9, 10, 11 and 12,
20 composite exhibits, directly conflict with the
21 witness's assertion --
22 MR. SCOTT: This is all a speech on your
23 part.
24 MR. SCAROLA: It is a speech.
25 MR. SCOTT: It is a speech and --
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1 MR. SCAROLA: I'm giving you notice as to
2 what you can do to do your homework. Okay?
3 They directly conflict with the witness's
4 assertion that the flight logs exonerate him.
5 In fact --
6 MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute.
7 MR. SCAROLA: -- the flight logs the
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flight logs corroborate
9 assertions.
10 MR. SCOTT: And I thank you very much for
11 that explanation and we look forward to
12 resuming this at the appropriate time and
13 responding to that.
14 THE WITNESS: And that is a false
15 statement.
16 MR. SCOTT: Thank you.
17 VIDEOGRAPHER: Going off the record. The
18 time is approximately 12:26 p.m.
19 (The proceedings ADJOURNED at 12:26 p.m.)
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CERTIFICATE OF OATH
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF BROWARD
I, the undersigned authority, certify
that ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ personally appeared
before me and was duly sworn on the 16th day of
October, 2015.
Signed this 16th dax of October, 2015.
•ItttAtal
' I BERLY FONTAI O, RPR, FPR, CLR
Notary Public, State of Florida
My Commission No. EE 161994
Expires: 2/01/16
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF BROWARD
I, KIMBERLY FONTALVO, Registered
Professional Reporter, do hereby certify that I
was authorized to and did stenographically report
the foregoing videotape deposition of ALAN M.
DERSHOWITZ; pages through 145; that a review of
the transcript was requested; and that the
transcript is a true record of my stenographic
notes.
I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a
relative, employee, attorney, or counsel of any
of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee
of any of the parties' attorneys or counsel
connected with the action, nor am I financially
interested in the action.
Dated this 16th day of October, 2015.
KIMBERLY FONTALVO, RPR, FPR, CLR
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October 16, 2015
COLE, SCOTT & KISSANE, P.A.
Dadeland Centre II - Suite 1400
9150 South Dadeland Boulevard
Miami, Florida 33156
BY: THOMAS EMERSON SCOTT, JR., ESQ.
Re: Edwards v. Dershowitz
Please take notice that on the 16th day of October,
2015, you gave your deposition in the above cause.
At that time, you did not waive your signature.
The above-addressed attorney has ordered a copy of
this transcript and will make arrangements with you
to read their copy. Please execute the Errata
Sheet, which can be found at the back of the
transcript, and have it returned to us for
distribution to all parties.
If you do not read and sign the deposition within a
reasonable amount of time, the original, which has
already been forwarded to the ordering attorney, may
be filed with the Clerk of the Court.
If you wish to waive your signature now, please sign
your name in the blank at the bottom of this letter
and return to the address listed below.
Very truly yours,
KIMBERLY FONTALVO, RPR, FPR, CLR
Phipps Reporting, Inc.
1615 Forum Place, Suite 500
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
I do hereby waive my signature.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ
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ERRATA SHEET
DO NOT WRITE ON TRANSCRIPT - ENTER CHANGES HERE
In Re: EDWARDS V. DERSHOWITZ
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ
October 16, 2015
PAGE LINE CHANGE REASON
Under penalties of perjury, I declare that I have
read the foregoing document and that the facts
stated in it are true.
Date ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ
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