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Date of entry 
 
03/02/2021
date of birth 
was interviewed over video 
conference. Present for this interview was Assistant United States 
Attorney 
, Detective 
Special Agent 
FBI Victim Specialis 
(present with 
in Colorado). 
After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the 
nature of the interview, 
provided the following information: 
and 
New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video 
Mwsnownon 02/24/2021  u Conference)) 
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02/25/2021 
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tells 
asked 
if she knew anyone or wanted to give massages. 
that she would do it. 
said it was really easy. It was 
a sales pitch that 
gave. He said "you go to an old man's house, give 
him a massage and he gives you money". This conversation happened at 
aunt's house ( 
. 
Present for this conversation was 
and 
two little brothers were around but not present for 
the actual conversation. 
was about 6 months older than 
was also older than 
was attending 
at the time of this conversation. 
was about 16 years 
old when she started high school. 
gave 
a walk through of what would happen. He told her 
would pick her up in a cab at her house then they would go to EPSTEIN's 
house together. He said 
would have to give an old man a massage, he 
would then give her money and then she would go home. They would refer to 
him as "Mr. Epstein" and say that he was a scientist. 
agreed to go. 
wanted out of her lifestyle. Her mindset was not where it should 
have been at the time. Because of this, 
does not believe that it was 
all 
or EPSTEIN's fault. 
recalled that when she went there she would wait in his kitchen. She 
never took a cab home; some car would drive her home. The car looked like 
an undercover cop car, like a Cadillac or something. 
remembered 
going across the bridge and thinking "wow". She had never been to Palm 
Beach and the houses were big. 
The first time she went to EPSTEIN's house she took a yellow cab with 
She recalled it was getting dark when they got there and the sky 
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was a light blue. They went into the kitchen. There were big glass doors. 
They were greeted by a young model who did not speak much English. She says 
to wait in the kitchen. She asked 
if she wanted anything to drink. 
She brings 
Fiji water. To this day 
cannot stomach drinking 
Fiji water. About 5-10 minutes later (GHISLAINE) MAXWELL comes downstairs 
and introduces herself to 
by her first name. 
her first name or understand it. 
later learns her 
MAXWELL but refers to her as "The Lady". MAXWELL brought 
upstairs. 
would happen. As 
walked up she realized 
would be able to find her way out of there. It 
through a bedroom and into a bathroom which was 
MAXWELL basically said to 
"you know what to do". 
out of the closet which was kind of behind a door. 
grabbed the towels and the lotions/oils. 
everything up. 
cannot pronounce 
last name to be 
and 
just followed 
lead as it was unknown to her what 
she was not sure if she 
was weird. She walked 
basically a massage room. 
She pulled a table 
trained 
watched her set 
The bathroom had two showers along the back wall. They were divided 
showers, stand up showers with glass doors. 
does not remember a 
toilet because she did not want to go there. There were two sinks and a big 
glass mirror. There was a closet which had the massage table inside of it 
and some form of seating. 
When EPSTEIN walked in he was wearing a white towel. He did not introduce 
himself. EPSTEIN was a pervert. He had a very distinct smell. They asked 
to leave and wait downstairs. He asked about 
background 
and about her parents and where she came from. 
thinks he was seeing 
what boundaries he could push. 
told him that she was poor and lived 
in the ghetto her whole life. She says that she is not afraid of anyone or 
anything. She is not afraid to talk about death. She tells him she always 
had it rough as a kid. 
sexual encounters in the pas 
first meeting with EPSTEIN, 
life. As time went on 
t. 
tells EPSTEIN that she had 2-3 non-agreeable 
was honest with EPSTEIN. During the 
tells him almost everything about her 
would keep EPSTEIN up to date with her life. 
Afterwards, EPSTEIN jumped in the shower. 
walked to the kitchen to 
meet 
and waited for MAXWELL to bring them their money. MAXWELL 
walked in with $600 ($300 each) all in $100 bills. MAXWELL said to 
that EPSTEIN liked her and wanted her to come back. They get a ride home in 
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a Cadillac by some white guy that worked for EPSTEIN. At the time neither 
or 
had driver's licenses. 
was not old enough to have 
one and she did not get one until she was 18. 
does not give them her 
phone number but received a phone call the next day. 
thinks 
gave them her number. The phone call was made to 
mother's house 
1 
Her home address was 
did not know who called her but it was a female who stated "Mr. Epstein 
wants to see you again". 
EPSTEIN seemed like he wanted to be a father figure. EPSTEIN made false 
promises. 
never discussed her age with EPSTEIN. She did tell him 
that she dropped out of high school. EPSTEIN seemed disappointed with 
about that. He tells her that if she goes back or gets her GED that 
he would help her to get into college and get her massage degree. 
would always meet EPSTEIN around 3:30-4 PM. She would average about 
3-4 times on a good week but would at least go twice a week. She would not 
go more than 4 times a week. This went on for about 2 4 years. She knows 
it was 2 4 years 
About 5-6 months into going to see EPSTEIN, 
mother questioned her 
about the situation. She tells 
that as long as he was not touching 
her that it was fine but she would have to pay her mother $50 every time she 
went. 
was paid $300 every time she went. 
described MAXWELL as having short hair which was never blonde. She 
had a weird tan, it was a red complexion that looked like her skin was hot. 
Her face was always red and she had rosy cheeks. MAXWELL was younger at the 
time, maybe in her 30's. She was older than 
. MAXWELL was very 
skinny. 
lawyer for about the past 13 years is 
(Agent note: Not all subject matter was covered during the course of this 
interview.] 
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