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OFFICIAL RECORD 
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
, also known as 
, was interviewed at One Saint Andrews Plaza, New York, New York. 
Present for the interview were 
attorneys,  
Also present was AUSA 
AUSA 
Detective 
and Special Agent 
After being advised 
of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the 
interview, 
provided the following information: 
Date of entry 
 
0 5/14 /2 020 
, date of birth 
In New York, massages for JEFFREY EPSTEIN were scheduled around the same 
times, usually around 11:00 AM and 4:00/5:00 PM. LESLEY GROFF would be the 
one who would communicate with those individuals giving the massage. 
would stay at her apartment during the day and sleep at EPSTEIN's 
house at night. When 
people waiting; they were 
underage but thought they 
clothes. 
saw JOJO escorting them upstairs in the elevator. 
would leave in the morning, she would see 
younger women. 
did not know if they were 
were around her age. They came in normal street 
may 
did 
have overheard that they were 
not know how she knew but it seemed 
there to massage EPSTEIN. 
they were 
massage. They were similar looking women to those 
Beach. JOJO and LYNN FONTANILA, who were married 
this residence. 
thought this was around 
GROFF worked at the house. LYNN LNU would keep a 
there to 
saw in Palm 
to each other, were at 
2004. In the later years, 
piece of paper with the 
first name of the women with appointments coming in. 
thought LYNN 
had since passed away. 
After EPSTEIN was in jail in the mid-2000's and was on house arrest, 
EPSTEIN and 
EPSTEIN told 
spent time in New York when he was allowed to travel. 
that he was not going to "do that" which meant no 
massages. EPSTEIN felt that he would be a target. 
In New Mexico, it was pretty quiet. 
did not think that EPSTEIN 
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10/25/2019 at New York, New York, United States (In. Person) 
Niers 50D-NY-3027571 
Datedufted 
03/16/2020 
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had anyone coming to massage him. EPSTEIN traveled with women to New 
Mexico. There was a massage room in this residence. 
In the Virgin Islands, one or two women would give EPSTEIN a massage. 
thought they were licensed masseuses. EPSTEIN would go into the 
massage room with a woman. 
As far as 
knew, the people that worked for EPSTEIN in his homes 
did not massage him. EPSTEIN's assistants did give him massages. 
did not know if his assistants only gave massages or were also involved with 
him. 
believed that 
was sexually involved with him 
at some point. 
was also involved with EPSTEIN. 
thought that most of the women that traveled with EPSTEIN were involved 
sexually with him. 
believed that 
was sexually 
involved with EPSTEIN but thought that stopped at some point. EPSTEIN told 
that it stopped with 
, saying that he was "no longer playing 
with her". 
started dating someone from London; 
thought this 
was before EPSTEIN went to jail. 
EPSTEIN used the word "family" when referring to them. 
thought 
the only person EPSTEIN saw as an equal was GHISLAINE MAXWELL. EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL had real conversations. EPSTEIN respected MAXWELL. 
, and 
were all dependent on EPSTEIN. 
felt "the 
longer you were around, it was harder to give up or get out". 
did 
not know how 
was able to get out. After 
left in 2010, she 
could see a difference; it felt like she had a new life. 
shared 
that with 
and other women that it felt different. 
met her 
current husband (known to law enforcement as 
and 
felt this helped 
woman named 
who was around for longer trips with EPSTEIN then left. 
get out. 
left around 2012/2013. There was a 
, known to law enforcement as 
and her sister, known 
to law enforcement as 
, traveled with EPSTEIN for a while. 
thought they stayed after she had left. III was around when 
first met EPSTEIN. III left and went back to -. 
came back and worked for EPSTEIN after his house arrest. 
told 
that EPSTEIN was hard on III and quite abusive. 
EPSTEIN had some of the women involved with other women. EPSTEIN seemed 
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to like it. Many of the women 
has talked about were involved with 
other women. 
thought that 
was involved with other women. 
photo was in EPSTEIN's massage room in New York. 
was 
wearing a wedding band and EPSTEIN seemed to like that. EPSTEIN told 
that 
was with other women. 
did not think 
was 
with other women when she was around. EPSTEIN described a sexual experience 
he had with 
that happened before 
met him. 
and III 
were not close. 
did not know if III was involved with other women. 
had vented frustrations to 
that EPSTEIN was unreasonable 
and tough. 
did share with 
any instances of physical abuse 
by EPSTEIN. 
When 
was at a casting in 
, either JEAN LUC BRUNEL or 
someone else came to this casting. 
was around 16 years old. 
was asked to apply for a tourist visa but it was denied. 
then applied for a work visa and it was approved. 
met BRUNEL at a 
dinner party in September. BRUNEL traveled regularly with EPSTEIN. 
did not know how close EPSTEIN and BRUNEL were. BRUNEL encouraged 
to do things to EPSTEIN including massaging EPSTEIN's feet and 
being good to EPSTEIN; it was clear BRUNEL approved. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN had 
a close relationship in that they talked very sexual about women. In early 
2004, BRUNEL brought a really young girl to the island. 
thought 
this girl was around 15 years old. EPSTEIN commented about this girl and 
being 10 years apart in age. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN would share stories 
about women they had sexual experiences with. 
thought EPSTEIN repaid her debt because she was no 
longer asked about it. 
work visa was through the agency. 
had the sense that EPSTEIN could have deported her with one phone 
call to BRUNEL. EPSTEIN told 
that he gave BRUNEL one million 
dollars to keep 
in the country. EPSTEIN had an immigration lawyer, 
PARDA BESKARDES, who he referred people to help with their visas. EPSTEIN 
used this to his advantage. EPSTEIN referred III and some women from Russia 
EPSTEIN helped BRUNEL bring into the United States on tourist visas. 
was not aware of any marriages EPSTEIN may have coordinated. 
did not remember EPSTEIN being present with her and this lawyer. 
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There was a short brunette-haired girl that traveled with BRUNEL, but for 
the most part BRUNEL traveled alone. 
BRUNEL sued EPSTEIN. 
recalled thinking this was a publicity 
stunt. EPSTEIN expressed disappointment about this. BRUNEL visited EPSTEIN 
often while he was in jail. 
renewed her visa 
In 2011, 
started her 
own company and worked on her own. EPSTEIN was not involved in her 
company. EPSTEIN did help 
financially and 
put the money 
she received toward her company. 
There were stories of MAXWELL being sexually involved with women. 
did not have first hand knowledge of this. There were 
conversations that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL had in group settings. 
photographs of MAXWELL throughout EPSTEIN's house. 
saw 
remembered girls coming to EPSTEIN's home for massages. It was 
reasonable to 
to think that these girls were paid. 
did 
not remember if she ever saw money on the table. While 
was in the 
room, she did not remember seeing an exchange of money. When EPSTEIN would 
step out of the room with a girl, 
thought he was just talking or 
connecting with her. Looking back on it now, 
thought it was to pay 
them. There were women in Florida like 
that 
remembered 
seeing. 
interacted with 
knew 
was there to 
massage EPSTEIN. 
felt embarrassed and naive because EPSTEIN made 
her believe that 
wanted to be there for 
also 
recalled feeling the same about 
and 
recalled a time that there was a vibrator that she and EPSTEIN 
used. EPSTEIN did not want 
to have the vibrator at the house 
anymore. It was the vibrator that EPSTEIN had and EPSTEIN told 
to 
get rid of it and not to ask why. 
did not remember conversations 
about pictures being removed. 
recalled EPSTEIN had a probation officer that he did not like 
transferred. EPSTEIN shared this with 
and seemed proud of himself. 
There was a woman, 
, whom EPSTEIN hired to work in the 
office in Florida while he was on work release. EPSTEIN and 
had a 
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falling out. EPSTEIN told 
that 
tried to blackmail him and he 
gave her $50,000. 
was told by a friend that 
contacted 
EPSTEIN a couple months before the current investigation into EPSTEIN and 
tipped him off. 
was told that 
had the information and warned 
him. 
recalled walking into the New York office and saw people 
shredding papers. 
did not remember when this occurred. 
EPSTEIN shared with 
that he felt as though he was being 
watched. 
told EPSTEIN that she wanted to do something about the 
press. 
had an idea but EPSTEIN told her to hold off because there 
may be something more substantial. 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL talked about sex. In a group setting with other 
girls, MAXWELL talked about oral sex. This was at the island table. MAXWELL 
had a specific move she liked to talk about. MAXWELL recommended books to 
read, including books like "Story of O", and something like "Lessons or 
Advice of a Wife to a Mistress". MAXWELL was reading this book and told 
and other girls to read. 
did not recall who all was there 
for this conversation. 
did not recall if the conversation about 
sex and the books was on the same day. 
and 
vented a lot to each other about EPSTEIN. 
felt that both she and 
were blinded and did not think there was some 
massive sex trafficking ring going on. 
and 
thought for 
years that it was a witch hunt for a wealthy man. In recent years, 
shared with 
some of the physical abuse by EPSTEIN. 
seemed 
somewhat surprised. 
did not share the same experience. 
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