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OFFICIAL RECORD1 
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
Datedentry 
 
04/23/2020
date of birth (DOB) 
was interviewed at One St. 
Andrews Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was 
attorneys 
and 
, along with AUSA 
AUSA 
and Special Agent 
. After being 
advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of 
the interview, 
provided the following information: 
was born in 
and has 
. 
When 
was in high school, she started modeling. 
met JEFFREY 
EPSTEIN during her last year of high school. 
had a relatively 
normal childhood. While her parents were not particularly affectionate in 
terms of no hugging or saying "I love you", they were good people. When 
was approximately 15/16 years old, she sent her photo to a 
agency. The agency contacted her, and she and her mother went to 
The agency " 
' signed 
. In 2001, 
was in a 
model contest called " 
has modeled in 
was scouted by an agency, 
in New York. 
invited 
to New York and wanted her to apply for a tourist visa. 
was not sure if the first visa was as a tourist or work. When 
was 17 years old, her tourist visa was denied. In 2003, 
work visa was approved. 
received her visa in August 2003 when she 
was 18 years old. The next month 
went to New York. 
sponsored her work visa. 
, who was with 
, may 
have been the person 
spoke with in regard to the visa. 
was the "mother agency" who did all the coordinating with 
and received commission for placing 
with 
owned by 
stayed in a model's apartment in 
. The rent was paid by 
debt that she would have to repay. 
that was originally 
, but it was 
had to keep track of 
Investigatkmon 10/11/2019 
File; 50D-NY-3027571 
at New York, New York, United States (In Person) 
Date shafted 10/11/2019 
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the rent because she had to pay it back. 
had a booker who told her 
to lose weight; she did not have a lot of castings. 
set up a 
gym membership and a diet for 
did not have a lot of 
money; she lived off of popcorn and tuna. 
On or about September 17, 2003, 
attended a dinner. 
recalled this exact date because it was the day "that affected the rest of 
my life". 
thought that it was JEAN LUC BRUNEL's birthday. 
thought that she had met BRUNEL previously 
recalled there being a big table in the corner of the 
restaurant CIPRIANI. There were a lot of models present. EPSTEIN walked in 
and went straight towards 
. EPSTEIN told the person sitting next to 
EPSTEIN to move; he sat down next to her and talked with her. EPSTEIN told 
that he had an island and his friends were actors, including 
LEONARDO DICAPRIO. During this dinner, 
had said that she wanted to 
be happy. EPSTEIN asked her if she wanted to be an actress. EPSTEIN tried 
to put his arm around her. 
A day or so later, • 
from EPSTEIN's assistant 
for the weekend. 
received a call on her apartment landline 
was invited to Palm Beach 
originally said no because she thought it was 
strange. That same day EPSTEIN called her and asked her to go to Palm 
Beach, saying, "No pressure...come relax...get in shape". 
thought 
why not go so she went. Or or about September 20, 2003, 
was in 
Palm Beach. She knew it was around this date because she found a photo 
dated that was taken in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN arranged 
flight but 
did not remember the particulars on who exactly arranged the flight. When 
arrived in Palm Beach, an assistant opened the door. 
thought the assistant may have been 
was impressed; 
the house was beautiful. EPSTEIN took 
to a cabana and they talked 
for a while. EPSTEIN seemed very smart; they talked about psychology, the 
difference between men and women, and what 
wanted to do with her 
life. EPSTEIN paid 
a lot of attention. EPSTEIN knew 
was 
trying to lose weight. When they were by the pool, EPSTEIN made comments to 
. EPSTEIN took 
upstairs to the bathroom/massage room. 
EPSTEIN had 
look in the mirror, and he pointed out the body parts 
that she needed to lose. EPSTEIN grabbed her and told her it was dead 
tissue. EPSTEIN had 
get on the table and cracked her back. 
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EPSTEIN then had 
turn over and made a comment on her hips. EPSTEIN 
grabbed a vibrator and put it on her genital area and moved it around to 
other places. 
had an orgasm, which she had not experienced before 
with other men. EPSTEIN was upbeat and said, "Lucky you". 
was 
embarrassed. EPSTEIN did not push things further at this point. 
A few days later 
went with EPSTEIN on his plane to his island. 
EPSTEIN took her on a tour on his four-wheeler. 
had her own room 
on the island. There were other women around and everyone seemed happy. 
slept in her own room, but in the mornings, EPSTEIN would get in 
her bed and touch her. 
was shy and inexperienced. 
did 
not want things to go further and did not want to have sex. EPSTEIN told 
that it was all for her. EPSTEIN told 
she needed to 
breathe to get in tune with her own body. 
recalled the women on 
the island being 
. and another girl. 
remembered seeing 
name on the flight logs and that is how she knew 
she was present for this trip. 
and 
were EPSTEIN's 
assistants. 
assumed the other women were like her with no defined 
role. EPSTEIN told his assistants to do things, run errands, schedule 
flights, interact with the staff. 
thought that she went back to 
New York on a commercial flight. 
On or about October 2003, 
went back to 
. EPSTEIN knew 
was in her last year of high school; she had told him she needed to 
go back. EPSTEIN told 
there was a way for her to not have to go 
back; he told her she could take a test to earn her GED. This way she would 
be able to travel with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN told 
that she should learn 
to take care of him. 
had to study for the TOEFL test before she 
could earn her GED. 
On or about December 2003, 
went back to New York. EPSTEIN 
offered for 
to stay an apartment at 301 East 66th Street. In 
December, 
would have had her prom in 
but went back to New 
York knowing that she would miss it. 
was not sure if she lived 
alone at the apartment initially or if 
was already living there. 
Before 
moved into this apartment, EPSTEIN had invited 
to 
go to his home at 9 East 71st Street. This was prior to EPSTEIN and 
having sex; EPSTEIN invited her to his home to sleep with him without having 
sex. 
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traveled everywhere with EPSTEIN, including New York, Florida, 
the island, New Mexico, Paris, Disneyland, and other trips. 
applied for an ID with EPSTEIN's Florida residence. Florida was 
official home, but she thought that she considered New York her home. 
had a relationship with EPSTEIN 
2010. 
no longer traveled with him. 
travel changed. Initially, 
traveled 
passed, the travel became less and less. 
traveled with 
where 
with him. 
until approximately August 
Over time, the frequency of 
all the time but as time 
recently learned EPSTEIN 
other women but she did not know that at the time. The times 
did not travel with EPSTEIN, he had told her not to travel 
In 2004, 
traveled with 
GHISLAINE MAXWELL, and other women who came in and out. 
traveled a 
lot with 
and EPSTEIN. 
and 
became friends; 
was older than 
older than 
an assistant. 
and 
thought 
was born in 
were also roommates. 
was an architect; she was 
so she was older than 
did not seem to have an official role and eventually became 
BRUNEL was very close friends with EPSTEIN. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN joked 
around together. BRUNEL traveled with EPSTEIN and 
encouraged 
showed 
BRUNEL 
to be nice to EPSTEIN and to take care of him. BRUNEL 
how to massage EPSTEIN's feet. 
EPSTEIN described MAXWELL as his best friend. MAXWELL's role seemed to 
be that of a "queen". MAXWELL oversaw things including managing EPSTEIN's 
houses. Initially, MAXWELL slept in EPSTEIN's bed when she traveled with 
them. MAXWELL was in charge of the staff. 
thought MAXWELL thought 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were in a relationship. 
did not think EPSTEIN 
told MAXWELL about 
and EPSTEIN being together. 
recalled a 
trip to the ranch in mid-2004 when MAXWELL was with them. When MAXWELL did 
not travel with them, 
slept in EPSTEIN's bed, then he had 
sleep with him. 
was scared of MAXWELL. EPSTEIN told MAXWELL that 
he wanted 
to sleep in his bed. 
did not think MAXWELL was 
happy about it. This was when sleeping arrangements began to change. 
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worked for MAXWELL as her assistant. 
also worked for 
MAXWELL as her assistant. 
thought that it seemed like a lot of 
women transitioned roles. 
thought 
and EPSTEIN had a 
relationship as well at some point. There was also another woman that was 
an assistant of who 
could not remember. 
thought 
was also MAXWELL's assistant at some point before she became EPSTEIN's 
assistant. 
recalled 
being an assistant in 
approximately 2005/2006. 
was also in charge of assistants some of 
the time. 
thought 
may have also been EPSTEIN's assistant at 
some point. 
described that if an outsider came to the house everyone there 
seemed happy. However, there was a lot of tension in the house. EPSTEIN 
pitted the women against each other. There was a lot of secrecy. EPSTEIN 
told them not to discuss him with other people. EPSTEIN told them to tell 
people, "If you have a question about Jeffrey, ask Jeffrey.". 
thought she did not trust anyone to tell people what was going on with her 
and EPSTEIN. 
While EPSTEIN was in jail in the mid-2000s, 
and 
were at 
his house most of the time; they lived there. EPSTEIN hired 
and 
to work in the office. 
heard they were working as 
paralegals. 
In approximately 2008, 
and 
relationship began to change 
as they bonded more. They did not have a normal relationship, but it became 
better. In or around 2010, they became friends. 
In approximately 2006, when EPSTEIN and 
were on his island, 
EPSTEIN told her that a woman was arrested on a drug charge and to save 
herself she redirected the attention to him. EPSTEIN told her this in 
person because he did not want to tell her on the phone. 
knew this 
girl to be 
did not know when she learned the name 
of the girl but knew her when EPSTEIN had told her the girl's name. At some 
point, 
learned that EPSTEIN's charge was about prostitution. 
The general sense was that EPSTEIN was being treated unfairly and women 
were setting him up to get money. 
believed this narrative. 
felt protective of EPSTEIN and felt bad for him. EPSTEIN gave her 
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examples of women blackmailing him. 
thought maybe he mentioned 
about five women blackmailing him. EPSTEIN told 
this before she 
learned about the investigation. 
same things; EPSTEIN shared his narrative openly. EPSTEIN told 
that if she was approached, she was not to talk to anyone and tell EPSTEIN 
or find a lawyer. Articles then started to come out. 
and 
eventually had conversations about it. 
thought they talked after 
EPSTEIN left. 
and 
thought "it was bullshit". This was 
their view at the time. 
view has since changed. 
recalled reading an article about items being removed from EPSTEIN's house. 
did not know anything about it or how items were removed. 
recalled there being a lot of photos around the house but at some point that 
changed. 
thought EPSTEIN told 
the 
EPSTEIN had 
talk to his lawyers. EPSTEIN wanted 
to 
describe what happened in Florida and to talk about the women and sex acts 
in Florida. 
went in with the mindset to be on EPSTEIN's side. The 
things that 
shared were not horrible to the lawyers. 
was 
asked about her interactions with other women. 
recalled a time on the ranch where she and 
had a 
conversation with EPSTEIN about if he was going to see jail time. It came 
to the point where it seemed inevitable. EPSTEIN told them he was 
soliciting a prostitute. 
did not remember if he told her the girl 
was underage. EPSTEIN said that the "women" lied about their ages; EPSTEIN 
said this a lot. 
thought this was what she told her parents. 
did not think she had conversations with others about it. 
As of this interview, 
2019. Before this, 
had not spoken to 
since early July 
thought 
shared similar views. 
In 2008, EPSTEIN was in jail. EPSTEIN was "fully" there for three 
months. 
thought EPSTEIN was on work release for approximately ten 
months. During this time, 
while also going to New York sometimes. EPSTEIN wanted 
every visitation, so 
Frequent visitors to 
IGOR, and TOMMY MATOLA. While 
residence, 
saw 
stayed at EPSTEIN's house in Palm Beach, 
to be at 
she stayed at EPSTEIN's Palm Beach residence more. 
see EPSTEIN were also 
BRUNEL, EPSTEIN's trainer 
was at EPSTEIN's Palm Beach 
and EPSTEIN's assistant 
around the 
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house. 
house. 
was also staying at the residence and IGOR lived in the guest 
While EPSTEIN was on house arrest, he became increasingly aggressive and 
irritable. EPSTEIN and 
were not getting along. It was not working 
out as EPSTEIN became more aggressive with 
There was an incident 
in approximately 2009 where EPSTEIN was violent and it scared 
packed her bags and went to New York. Afterwards, EPSTEIN 
convinced 
to try again at their relationship. EPSTEIN and 
separated in 2010. After the split, 
stayed in New York. 
thought EPSTEIN owned the apartment she was staying in; she was not paying 
any rent for the apartment. 
After 2010, 
had a physical relationship with EPSTEIN a few 
times. 
did not want to have a physical relationship anymore but 
told EPSTEIN 
EPSTEIN told her no. EPSTEIN 
told 
her role was not 
but to have sex with him. 
thought this may have been around 2012. 
started working somewhere else and lived in II. There were a 
number of years where she and EPSTEIN did not speak. 
In or around 2018, EPSTEIN and 
became more cordial and 
friendly. Any time there was a new article published or a new development, 
EPSTEIN and 
would check in with each other. A few months before 
EPSTEIN was arrested in July 2019, 
saw him and STEVE BANNON at 
EPSTEIN's house in New York. It was just the three of them. 
walked in and saw EPSTEIN and BANNON sitting in the dining room exchanging 
friendly banter. EPSTEIN and BANNON asked 
questions on how the 
situation was affecting her. 
had the sense that they were trying 
to reboot his reputation. 
had not been able to work and her 
association to EPSTEIN had made it difficult for her to have relationships. 
They asked a lot of questions. EPSTEIN seemed pleased that 
cried 
during this conversation. This took place after the Miami Herald article 
was published. 
left after this conversation. 
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After 
split from EPSTEIN, life was hard for her because of her 
association to him. There were a lot of opportunities that fell through 
because of him. 
told EPSTEIN about this and they came to an 
agreement. EPSTEIN offered to pay her double what she would make in any 
job. They called it "a double". EPSTEIN would wire the money to her. 
EPSTEIN covered 
medical expenses and her 
. In 
2015, when 
was deposed, EPSTEIN covered her legal fee. When bad 
articles came out, EPSTEIN copied her on an email telling someone to wire 
her money. 
would ask EPSTEIN what the money was for and he told 
her it was because she deserved it. 
sometimes went to EPSTEIN 
telling him that things were getting out of hand. EPSTEIN gave 
statements of what she should say and what she should say about some people 
that 
did not even know about. 
did not know anything about 
she never met 
. EPSTEIN wanted 
to say 
that 
was a liar and that PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON was never on 
EPSTEIN's island. 
and 
had a lot of conversations because they felt they 
were in similar situations. 
recalled that after a breakup, 
with a friend. MAXWELL was present. 
MAXWELL said from a distance that 
for EPSTEIN. 
did not know if 
went to a movie premiere 
later spoke with EPSTEIN and 
looked cute and would be perfect 
and 
introduced girls to 
EPSTEIN. 
did not think this was their role. 
knew that 
introduced girls to EPSTEIN. 
knew that others 
introduced girls to EPSTEIN. 
showed a page off a "Jeffrey E. Epstein" notepad that had 
handwritten notes on it. This was written by 
as dictated to her. 
This page is attached in a 1A. 
provided scans of photos from her time with EPSTEIN. These 
photos are attached in a 1A. 
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