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Present for 
along with AUSA 
IMP 
AUSA 
and Special Agent 
After being advised of 
the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the 
interview, 
provided the following information: 
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
date of 
a proffer agreement at 
the interview was 
Date of entry 
 
04/23/2020
birth (DOB) 
was interviewed 
attorneys/legal team including 
wanted to provide clarification from her last interview in regards 
to when she first learned about the investigation into JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 
saying that her feelings were a progression. 
received a payment from EPSTEIN in late 2018. In September 2014, 
an 
renovated their apartment. 
and 
were left with a 
gutted apartment and they could not get a bank loan. When 
stopped 
working for EPSTEIN, they still talked regularly and visited together when 
he was in town. 
spoke to EPSTEIN monthly. 
spoke to EPSTEIN 
about their situation. 
asked 
to borrow money from EPSTEIN. 
They were waiting for stocks to go public but it kept getting delayed. At 
the end of November 2018, 
met EPSTEIN at his New York house and told 
him about their financials, saying that she only had $100,000 in her bank 
account. While 
was meeting with EPSTEIN, he picked up the phone and 
called his accountant RICHARD KAHN to wire her $250,000. This meeting with 
EPSTEIN happened because LESLEY GROFF told her to come and meet him if she 
was in New York. EPSTEIN told 
not to tell anyone about giving her 
the money but did not tell her why she should not tell anyone. 
assumed it was because EPSTEIN did not want 
to feel bad about it. 
and 
kept separate finances. EPSTEIN also gave 
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$100,000 when 
did not think she received 
other money from EPSTEIN. 
told 
and 
about having received money from 
EPSTEIN. 
called 
and told her that he gave her $100,000; 
then told 
that EPSTEIN gave her money as well. 
told 
that EPSTEIN called her and asked her if she could use or needed 
money. 
thought 
that EPSTEIN was just feeling generous with them. 
would see EPSTEIN once every couple/few months depending on where they both 
were at the time. 
told EPSTEIN that "it was rough". 
EPSTEIN came to Miami to meet with an architect and to help 
thought this was in early 2018 - months before their conversation in 
November. 
had asked EPSTEIN to come to her apartment in Miami. 
gave EPSTEIN a rundown of the renovations, burn rate, and cash. 
EPSTEIN told them he did not see how they could keep the apartment, saying 
it did not all add up. EPSTEIN told her that she cannot put her head in the 
sand. 
EPSTEIN told 
that she would always be safe and he would always 
take care of her. EPSTEIN sent 
an email once saying "100% safe". 
brought up the financial discussion with EPSTEIN. 
did not know what EPSTEIN wanted to talk to her about when GROFF 
called. 
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did not ask EPSTEIN for money. EPSTEIN had another meeting after 
he met with 
thanked EPSTEIN and sent an email after thanking 
him. 
lent the money to 
did not report the money on 
taxes; 
was not sure how reporting the taxes worked. 
understanding was that EPSTEIN would have had to pay the taxes on the money 
he gave her. 
In April 2018, 
was aware of a reporter looking into EPSTEIN. The 
day the article in the Miami Herald came out she had been aware that someone 
was looking into EPSTEIN. The article came out before 
met with 
EPSTEIN in November. 
thought that she and EPSTEIN may have 
acknowledged it but did not talk about it in depth. 
remembered 
"skimming" through the article. 
did not remember what she and 
EPSTEIN said about the article; it was not a topic of conversation. 
did not think they talked about it afterwards either. 
and 
talked about it, but did not talk specifically about the article. 
and 
wanted to figure out the best way to tell their own stories. 
had thought about writing a book and told EPSTEIN in which he told 
her it was a good idea. 
did not associate the $250,000 she received 
from EPSTEIN to the article from the Miami Herald because EPSTEIN was always 
so generous to people. 
was stressed about her finances and felt that EPSTEIN was trying 
to be helpful. 
did not know that she viewed it any different 
currently. 
had told EPSTEIN that a journalist reached out. 
did not recall EPSTEIN saying anything about it. EPSTEIN did not tell 
not to talk to anyone. 
The first time 
remembered being on the island after 
, EPSTEIN asked her to make him a bath and told her to get in with 
him. 
was sitting across from EPSTEIN when he told her that 
EPSTEIN took 
to the bed and she 
sat facing him. EPSTEIN directed 
on what to do and how to touch 
him. EPSTEIN masturbated. 
took this to mean that she had to perform 
sexual favors 
After this incident, 
had a lot of 
sexual contact with EPSTEIN; it was pretty often, it varied, and happened in 
all locations. EPSTEIN would wake 
up by beginning to fondle her. 
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There were some situations that involved other people. The first time 
another person was present it was GHISLAINE MAXWELL. EPSTEIN was laying 
down. MAXWELL was touching 
and instructing her on what to do. 
MAXWELL told 
where to touch EPSTEIN and how to touch him. 
Before EPSTEIN went to jail the first time was the last time 
had 
any type of sexual contact with him. EPSTEIN would ask 
to come over 
and sleep in his bed. EPSTEIN called 
his "human water bottle". The 
sexual contact with EPSTEIN phased out. After EPSTEIN went to jail, 
did not sleep in his bed anymore. 
The majority of the time, the sexual contact would begin with EPSTEIN 
waking 
up by fondling her. EPSTEIN would direct 
by grabbing 
her hand to follow him to his room. EPSTEIN would lay down and masturbate. 
Sometimes, EPSTEIN would touch 
, tell her how to sit, and how to move 
her head. EPSTEIN would ask 
to give him blow jobs. In Palm Beach, 
EPSTEIN and 
were working out in the cabana. EPSTEIN was on the bike 
while 
was doing sit-ups. EPSTEIN turned the music up loud and put 
the hurricane shutters up. EPSTEIN "basically" aggressively raped 
EPSTEIN pulled 
pants down and had intercourse with her. This was 
the only time 
remembered him having intercourse with her. 
There were two other times, besides the time with MAXWELL, where other 
people were present during the sexual encounters. There was a time on the 
island where 
was present. 
remembered being on the bed 
with her while EPSTEIN directed them. There was a time in New York where 
was present. EPSTEIN asked both of them to come over and it led 
to a similar situation as had happened on the island with 
In Palm Beach, the sexual contact with EPSTEIN happened in 
the gym, and though she could not picture it 
was sure that it also happened in his room. In New York, EPSTEIN would call 
over to sleep with him, usually at night. EPSTEIN's "code word" was 
"cold sheets". In the beginning, EPSTEIN would have 
sleep over and 
it turned sexual. When EPSTEIN was with MAXWELL, 
recalled being 
afraid that MAXWELL would find out because 
thought that when EPSTEIN started dating 
sleep with him with no sexual contact. 
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he just had 
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On the island, the sexual contact occurred in MAXWELL's bedroom. There 
were also times 
would draw EPSTEIN baths and she would be in the bath 
and he would lead her to the bedroom. 
MAXWELL had approximately four girls, including 
and 
on the island for EPSTEIN's birthday. MAXWELL asked 
them to get naked and wrap themselves in saran wrap. MAXWELL took photos. 
MAXWELL had a massage table brought down to the beach. MAXWELL had EPSTEIN 
get on the table with the women surrounding him while she took a photo. All 
the women were topless. MAXWELL also had them put paint on their breasts to 
put on a canvas to give to EPSTEIN. 
thought this happened around 
January 2002. 
In Paris, EPSTEIN would have 
sleep in his bed. EPSTEIN would 
direct 
on what to do, how to sit, where to put her shoulders, and how 
to put her head so that he could not see her face. EPSTEIN told her that he 
did not want to see her face. EPSTEIN wanted his nipples rubbed. 
remembered being in his bed after he woke her up in her bed in Paris. 
stayed with him in Paris. 
recalled EPSTEIN leading her to his bed in New Mexico. Most 
encounters in EPSTEIN's bed were with EPSTEIN masturbating. 
did not recall sexual contact revolving around a massage room or 
during a massage. EPSTEIN asked 
to give him two "full proper body" 
massages, once on the island with a masseuse and once on the ranch when no 
masseuse was available. 
massaged EPSTEIN's feet all of the time, 
along with rubbing his shoulders and cracking his back. 
described EPSTEIN "directing" her meant that he would tell her how 
to touch him, where to touch him, and how to sit. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would 
touch 
recalled 
being around during approximately 2002/2003. 
was present for a sexual encounter on the island. 
viewed 
EPSTEIN's girlfriend. 
thought 
was a 
thought 
to be in her twenties during this time. 
recalled 
being around during approximately 2002/2003. 
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did not know how 
and EPSTEIN met. 
traveled a lot when 
had started. 
thought 
was in college. 
viewed 
as EPSTEIN's girlfriend. 
The sexual encounter involving MAXWELL happened very early on, but did 
not happen the first time 
met them. This happened when 
came 
back. 
did not remember how it started, but recalled being on the 
bed. MAXWELL was naked and told 
that EPSTEIN liked his nipples 
rubbed. MAXWELL told 
what EPSTEIN liked and how to touch him. 
MAXWELL was rubbing his nipples. MAXWELL touched 
MAXWELL and 
did not talk about it afterwards. 
MAXWELL always made comments and jokes about sex; she was outwardly very 
open about it. MAXWELL said she had gone to a blowjob class. MAXWELL 
offered to demonstrate what she learned. MAXWELL discussed this very 
generally out at the common table. 
did not remember who was all 
present for this conversation. 
did not know if MAXWELL engaged in 
other sexual contact with other women. 
When 
first started, MAXWELL made a comment to her saying, "Listen 
to what Jeffrey says; he knows what he's doing. He's very successful. 
You'd do well to listen to what he has to say.". 
During the sexual encounters with EPSTEIN, 
felt ashamed. 
was nervous and scared, not sure what was going to happen. 
did not 
feel that she had a choice. 
did not know 
where else to go. 
MAXWELL made a comment about other girlfriends being trash. 
did 
not want MAXWELL to put her in that category because she did not want II 
. 
MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's girlfriend. MAXWELL approved the 
bills, ran all of EPSTEIN's houses, and was in control of everything. 
never told anyone what happened. 
felt ashamed and buried 
it deep down. 
did not know who to tell; all of 
friends were 
through EPSTEIN. 
could not tell her boyfriends because they would 
get rid of her. One of 
previous boyfriends was EPSTEIN's paralegal 
who she met through EPSTEIN. 
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thought that maybe there were times where there was not sexual 
contact when she traveled with EPSTEIN between 2002 to 2005, but that it 
happened more than not. 
described the time where she and EPSTEIN were in the gym was the 
first time she saw him being aggressive. EPSTEIN seemed to have a rage 
about him. It was unexpected and out of the blue to 
had no conversations about sexual boundaries with EPSTEIN. 
did not want to have sexual contact with him. 
described EPSTEIN as an overpowering, ominous figure. 
could feel EPSTEIN's wrath if she did not do what he wanted. EPSTEIN was 
mad at 
when she booked a car rental and she did not do exactly as he 
said. 
saw him yell at MAXWELL and 
EPSTEIN dictated 
hair style, color, and the style of clothes she 
wore. EPSTEIN had 
dye her hair blonde, cut it to a "boy cut", and 
have bangs. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would go to the salon to tell them what to 
do to 
hair. EPSTEIN would buy 
clothes. If 
wore 
clothes that EPSTEIN did not like he would ask her where she got them. When 
bought clothes, she would show EPSTEIN to get his approval. EPSTEIN 
also dictated to 
, and III 
EPSTEIN commented on 
weight. EPSTEIN would tell 
to "lay 
off" the brownies and tell her she should go to the gym. EPSTEIN generally 
made comments to others as well, including 
would go to EPSTEIN to get approval for every decision she made. 
renovated the guest apartments and went to him to get approval for 
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colors and materials. 
EPSTEIN knew that 
had boyfriends because she talked about them. 
EPSTEIN gave his opinion to her about them. EPSTEIN told her that one of 
them was a loser and she needed to break up with him. EPSTEIN mostly put 
her boyfriends down. EPSTEIN still had sexual contact with 
while she 
had boyfriends. 
time with EPSTEIN was a "whirlwind" as they were constantly 
traveling. EPSTEIN controlled where 
lived and where she went. They 
traveled every three days. 
In 2010, EPSTEIN was released from jail and 
responsibilities 
increased. EPSTEIN did not have a chef at this time so 
was 
responsible for food when they traveled. 
decorating the rooms on the island and all the apartments at 301 East 66th
Street in New York. After EPSTEIN was released, 
did not recall 
setting up or scheduling massages for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN was still getting 
massages. EPSTEIN traveled with a masseuse, who was 
did not 
recall if there were any other masseuse. 
was renovating and 
In 2012, 
met 
; EPSTEIN was not involved in their meeting 
each other. When 
met 
, she began traveling with him. 
set up a design business. EPSTEIN told 
she could still help with the 
renovations. 
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The first people 
told about her sexual encounters with EPSTEIN 
were her lawyers and then her therapist. 
had two conversations with 
EPSTEIN about writing a book. There was no conversation about putting the 
sexual experiences in the book. 
From 2013 to 2018, 
received two large payments, $100,000 and 
$250,000, from EPSTEIN. 
had to sign a health care proxy so that if anything happened to 
her, MAXWELL and EPSTEIN would be responsible for her well-being. They did 
not want her family to be responsible. 
thought that this was 
MAXWELL's idea, but she was not sure. 
also had to sign a 
confidentiality agreement. 
visited EPSTEIN when he was under house arrest in Palm 
Beach. EPSTEIN would get massages from 
or whoever was traveling. 
EPSTEIN paid for lawyers for 
. One of the lawyers was 
This was after EPSTEIN went to jail and there were civil suits. 
thought she may have been deposed while he was in jail. When 
had a lawsuit against MAXWELL, 
was told by EPSTEIN's 
in house counsel, DARREN INDYKE to find a lawyer and EPSTEIN would pay for 
it. 
paid for some of the expenses of the lawyer. The lawyer was 
but he eventually stopped representing 
because he 
was not getting paid. 
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Not all subject matter was discussed during the course of this interview. 
Dates and times are approximate. 
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