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humiliation, loss of reputation, mental anguish, 
pain and suffering, the same type of damages. 
And what the Court said --
THE COURT: How old is she now? 
MR. GARCIA: She's 21 no*. 
MR. CRITTON: She's 21 now. What the Court 
said is, you know, if you'd only brought this 
claim under 796 evidence of past issues, it's not 
an issue. You can't use this defense for 
anything, but because you brought these other 
claims which include, you know, sexual assault 
and you're seeking damages for other causes of 
action since the information sought by discovery 
may be relevant or may lead to the discovery of 
admissible evidence in one or more of theother 
causes of action or determination of damages, we 
cannot conclude the trial'court parted from 
essential requirements of law in granting --
THE COURT: So in other words, she's'not 
only seeking -- she's seeking current emotional 
damage as a result of this relationship and 
you're trying to find out if she had prior 
relationships. that perhaps could be intertwined 
with it so that it's not just Mr. Epstein's --
MR. CRITTON: Right. A perfect example is 
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one of the cases that I have is there's a young 
lady who claims that she was molested in the past 
and raped, pretty significant issues, well in 
advance of her even meeting with Mr. Epstein. 
And they seem to play a large role in her 
psychiatric and psychological evaluation. 
We're going to come to the Court in 
this case as we have others and ask for a' 
psychological evaluation of this lady, and if she 
was raped or if she was molested or just she had 
a bad experience or some -- whether it was a 
young or old man assaulted her in some fashion, 
that may play a role in her damages and what --
THE COURT: What I'm going to allow for 
discovery purposes only not necessarily getting 
it in at the time trial are two years before her 
first encounter with Mr. Epstein and anything 
subsequent. 
MR. GARCIA: Judge, I just wanted to say on 
the record because I forgot to mention it, 
there's also -- I did state an objection to the 
identity of people that are unrepresented in this 
courtroom. They have rights too. So what I --
THE COURT: Well, my suggestion is that you 
send those people a letter and tell them that 
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you're going to disclose them and if they have a 
problem with it that they come to see me before 
you disclose it. 
So I'm going to give you 20 days to 
respond to this rather than the usual five and 
that will give you time to put these people on 
notice and if they want to come visit with me and 
have a John Doe, I'll have a John Doe heailng 
but, you know, this is her case. She's doing it. 
She's the one seeking damages, and he is entitled 
to be able to confront other individuals to find 
out information that may be relevant to the 
damages she's seeking or she can drop the 
damages. That's her choice. If you seek. 
damages, you've got to do it -- if you could put 
that in an order so that we have a time for him 
to do this. 
Just fill out an order, hand it back up 
to me and I'll deal with it. 
(The proceedings were concluded.) 
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REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE 
THE STATE OF FLORIDA, 
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH. 
I, Teresa Bell, Court Reporter, certify that 
I was authorized to and did stenographically report 
the foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a 
true and complete record of my stenographic notes. 
I further certify that the proceedings were 
taken at the time and place shown herein and that all 
counsel and persons as hereinabove shown were present. 
I further certify that I am not a relative, 
employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties, 
nor am I a relative or employee of any of the parties' 
attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor am 
I financially interested in the action. 
Dated this 11th day 
TERES BELL, 
Court Reporter 
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