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From: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]> 
To: Deepak Chopra 
Subject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:07:58 +0000 
AHHHH the hunt 
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Deepak Chopra < 
wrote: 
I don't know 
The tiger is bringing me to places I had abandoned 
It looks like the MGH / Harvard CHOPRA MInd/Brain Institute will actually happen - which means riding the 
tiger even more . I've wanted validation from scientists - some is happening and some will remain ever 
skeptical and condescending 
Suddenly it does not feel important 
What do I enjoy most ? 
I don't know that I can really say ! 
My biological needs are met occasionally but - that too - it seems I've been there / done that . 
I have 3 more books to write and then will be done with that as well 
I will be going for 1 week silence at the end of this month with a small group 
Maybe some more clarity then 
I do enjoy the company of younger intellectually sharp and self aware women and love to engage with them to 
inspire and stimulate them 
Dee ak Cho ra 
Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wellbeing 
On Aug 6, 2016, at 12:45 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 
what do you enjoy the most now? what type of experience? new people? learning. ? quiet.? you and i 
are able to put together quite an extensive catalouge of disappointments. 
we have another 20 years to 
play , actively. . how do you think about it. . the tiger restricts some choices. but carries you to places 
unknown to most. 
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Deepak Chopra < 
> wrote: 
Ok :) 
Dee ak Cho ra 
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On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:18 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 
You already do 
On Friday, 5 
2016, Deepak Chopra < 
I've met Paul Selig 
I'd like to know your experience 
wrote: 
Deepak Cho ra 
Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishins; Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wellbeing 
On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 
i did like the fart in cosmic time. . it appears we know the same woman. :) 
fyI my concisouness guys are bringing around an empath called paul selig at noon. 
im going to 
push the woo envelope. 
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Deepak Chopra 
> wrote: 
or He comes around nastily 
Dee ak Cho ra 
Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wellbeing 
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From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: 
5, 2016 at 8:04:26 AM GMT+2 
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To: Deepak Chopra 
Cc: Deepak Chopra 
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Subject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
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Einstein called it a stubbornly persistent illusion. 
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Deepak Chopra < 
> wrote: 
Russell 
Jack —we are all fictional characters in a cosmic dream -not even a sneeze or fart in cosmic time 
--time itself an illusion . 
The Chopra Foundation 
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From: Jack Sarfatti < 
Sent: Friday, 
To: Deepak Chopra 
> 
5, 2016 1:38:48 AM 
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Cc: Michelle Kathryn McGee; 
Shelli Joye; Brian Josephson; Cynthia Sue 
Larson; Jim Johnston; C Langan; Paul Zielinski; Leanne Whitney; Deepak Chopra; art Wagner; John 
Horgan; David Kaiser; Stanley A. KLEIN; Rudy Tanzi; Henry P. Stapp; Stuart R - (hameroff) Hameroff; 
Jagdish Mann; Kim Burrafato; 
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Subject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Deepak Chopra < 
> wrote: 
All causality is fiction in a non local universe . 
U r writing fiction 
The universe is not nonlocal 
The universe is locally retrocausal at the quantum level 
The appearance of causality is a result of veiled non locality and cosmic censorship . 
Muddled malapropism 
The observer is an activity of the total universe as is the observed . 
If that makes u happy believe it 
Get over it people 
You can't use an illusion to explain an illusion 
Only psychotics cannot distinguish illusion from reality. 
Dee ak Cho ra 
Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and 
Wellbeing 
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On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:09 AM. Michelle Kathryn McGee < 
> wrote: 
Remi, 
It has been a dream of mine to make the acquaintance of a capable and open-minded 
physicist who would review my work. Feel free to delve as you wish. Any and all feedback 
is welcome. I have met physicists over the years but none are willing to examine anything 
beyond the abstract. A good old fashioned Mexican stand-off! 
I am currently preparing a paper for Cosmos & History, the philosophy journal where the 
Foundation of Mind conference proceedings go. A late draft is attached. 
The title is "Notes from the existential underground: the universe as a complex emergent 
system." 
In it, I refer to Chris Langan's work from 2002 (CTMU) and my own from 2003 (Novel 
View): 
Implications of a novel view of the cosmological energy density and pressure relationship 
(Academia.edu link) 
Your daring sensibility in deconstructing Jack's pet retrocausality has been a pleasure to 
read. Many great teaching/leaming points and connections. 
Regards, 
michelle 
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Remi Cornwall < 
> wrote: 
Yes of course but how are the measurements communicated? 
Say you have a box coupled electromagnetically to whatever its measuring and sending signals to 
control, how does the box communicate with the controller several miles away. By radio, yes, 
correct. What if the control communicates to the box by a quantum channel sending classical 
data with the measure/no-measure protocol"? 
At the bottom of it, relativity is all about metrology/horology. You're communicating time and length 
standards. 
Let's look at a time standard (limit to SR). The usual thing is clocks in a frame are moved from the 
origin very slowly to their destinations in the frame. They ping off the seconds and a record of their 
time and we can say, although they all keep the same rate of time, the distant ones are retarded or 
delayed as we read their times pinging every second back at the origin. We know full well that this is 
just the transit time but it is verboten to speak of distant observers having the same instant of time as 
oneself. This is the failure of simultaneity in time. 
What if now we communicate our clock standard by a quantum channel and the collapse protocol 
(discemable by an interferometer, 0: no measurement, 1: measurement")? We know that the 
collapse is instantaneous (let's not argue that, its been measured, at least retrospectively"' ). We'd 
have simultaneity. 
Now we can compare putative retrocausal effects against this gold standard of simultaneity as, at 
least in one frame, we can say we have an absolute tick of the clock. To be truly retrocausal, with this 
time standard, I would need some phenomena where: variable = f( t1, t2, variable, d variable/dt, d this 
that/dt etc.) and not merely have some retarded time term t' = t - r/c because our gold standard 
quantum channel synchronised clocks would catch this (ha ha, light is "slow"). 
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And it just may be... a gifted psychic person gets into a trance in a laboratory (today) and says, "let's 
all not meet here next week because the security guard goes mad at 11.30 Friday and kills us all' 
(and he does turns up next week and has no-one to kill, as predicted and avoided). That would be 
truly retrocausal. The effect from next week just pops into that locale (that point in space and absolute 
time) and his head with no discemable causality (no wave equation no chugging of things through 
space-time, totally discontinuous). 
In fact the sine qua non of a retrocausal effect could only be this discontinuous  generation of events 
on a space-time diagram and the retrospective cognizance (or correlation) that it was connected to a 
future event WITH the absolute quantum channel time standard. 
Note, this rules out the "magic" of entanglement collapse as retrocausal, as we have gotten over this 
little miracle and now use it as technology for our clock standards. Ergo, retrocausal is something else 
beyond this. 
• http://webspace.qmul.ac.uldrocornwall/Flmr agif
 and 
http://webspace.gmuLac.uk/rocomwall/QSE_Bona-fide.JPG 
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Minden, H.; Gisin, N., et al, 'resting the speed of 'spooky action at a distance. Nature. 2008. 454 
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