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From: Deepak Chopra
To: Jeff Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com> 
Subject: Fwd: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 06:26:51 +0000 
He comes around nastily 
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Date: August 5, 2016 at 8:04:26 AM GMT+2 
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Subject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
Einstein called it a stubbornly persistent illusion. 
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Deepak Chopra < 
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Jack --we are all fictional characters in a cosmic dream -not even a sneeze or fart in cosmic time --time itself 
an illusion . 
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Subject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal 
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Deepak Chopra 
All causality is fiction in a non local universe . 
U r writing fiction 
The universe is not nonlocal 
The universe is locally retrocausal at the quantum level 
wrote: 
The appearance of causality is a result of veiled non locality and cosmic censorship . 
Muddled malapropism 
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The observer is an activity of the total universe as is the observed . 
If that makes u happy believe it 
Get over it people 
You can't use an illusion to explain an illusion 
Only psychotics cannot distinguish illusion from reality. 
Deepak Chopra 
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On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:09 AM, Michelle Kathryn McGee < 
wrote: 
Remi, 
It has been a dream of mine to make the acquaintance of a capable and open-minded physicist who would 
review my work. Feel free to delve as you wish. Any and all feedback is welcome. I have met physicists 
over the years but none are willing to examine anything beyond the abstract. A good old fashioned 
Mexican stand-offl 
I am currently preparing a paper for Cosmos & History, the philosophy journal where the Foundation of 
Mind conference proceedings go. A late draft is attached. 
The title is "Notes from the existential underground: the universe as a complex emergent system." 
In it, I refer to Chris Langan's work from 2002 (CTMU) and my own from 2003 (Novel View): 
Implications of a novel view of the cosmological energy density and pressure relationship (Academia.edu 
link) 
Your daring sensibility in deconstructing Jack's pet retrocausality has been a pleasure to read. Many great 
teaching/learning points and connections. 
Regards, 
michelle 
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Remi Cornwall <remicornwall®yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
Yes of course but how are the measurements communicated? 
Say you have a box coupled electromagnetically to whatever its measuring and sending signals to control, how does 
the box communicate with the controller several miles away. By radio, yes, correct. What if the control communicates 
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to the box by a quantum channel sending classical data with the measure/no-measure protocol"? 
At the bottom of it, relativity is all about metrology/horology. You're communicating time and length standards. 
Let's look at a time standard (limit to SR). The usual thing is clocks in a frame are moved from the origin very slowly 
to their destinations in the frame. They ping off the seconds and a record of their time and we can say, although they 
all keep the same rate of time, the distant ones are retarded or delayed as we read their times pinging every second 
back at the origin. We know full well that this is just the transit time but it is verboten to speak of distant observers 
having the same instant of time as oneself. This is the failure of simultaneity in time. 
What if now we communicate our clock standard by a quantum channel and the collapse protocol (discernable by an 
interferometer, 0: no measurement, 1: measurement")? We know that the collapse is instantaneous (let's not argue 
that, it's been measured, at least retrospectively"' ). We'd have simultaneity. 
Now we can compare putative retrocausal effects against this gold standard of simultaneity as, at least in one frame, 
we can say we have an absolute tick of the clock. To be truly retrocausal, with this time standard, I would need some 
phenomena where: variable = f( t1, t2, variable, d variable/dt, d this that/dt etc.) and not merely have some retarded 
time term = t - r/c because our gold standard quantum channel synchronised clocks would catch this (ha ha, light is 
"slow"). 
And it just may be... a gifted psychic person gets into a trance in a laboratory (today) and says, let's all not meet 
here next week because the security guard goes mad at 11.30 Friday and kills us all" (and he does turns up next 
week and has no-one to kill, as predicted and avoided). That would be truly retrocausal. The effect from next week 
just pops into that locale (that point in space and absolute time) and his head with no discemable causality (no wave 
equation, no chugging of things through space-time, totally discontinuous). 
In fact the sine qua non of a retrocausal effect could only be this discontinuous  generation of events on a space-time 
diagram and the retrospective cognizance (or correlation) that it was connected to a future event WITH the absolute 
quantum channel time standard. 
Note, this rules out the "magic" of entanglement collapse as retrocausal, as we have gotten over this little miracle 
and now use it as technology for our clock standards. Ergo, retrocausal is something else beyond this. 
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