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ask 
to make what are called controlled calls? 
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controlled call is? 
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listening device, where we have an individual place a call 
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to somebody and we are able to record the other person's 
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voice and the conversation that takes place between the 
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person that we're having make the call and the person that 
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end of March, I believe it was March 30. 
called 
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at the Olive Garden where 
works. 
 was 
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concerned that 
father had found out somehow and 
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that they knew about it. And she refers to him as 
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Jeffrey, but Mr. Epstein. 
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told her that they did not know about 
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Mr. Epstein. Later in the conversation 
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tells her 
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that Mr. Epstein would like her to come back and work for 
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Can you explain to the grand jury what a 
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A controlled call is where we actually have a 
they are calling. 
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Who did detective Il' ask illlito call? 
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ewes 
asked to callallon the phone. 
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And did she do so? 
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Yes, she did. 
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Can you tell the grand jury when the calls were? 
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I believe the first call was made towards the 
him, and that maybe she could work for him tomorrow. So 
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they agreed that there would be a call between 
and 
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tomorrow, that 
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tomorrow. 
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Were there calls also made on March 31 of 2006? 
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There were two calls made on March 31. The 
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first one she doesn't connect to 
The second call 
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that was made a short time later, Haley answers the phone. 
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Again, there is a discussion about ■ 
coming to work for 
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Mr. Epstein. 
tells IIIIII- one of the comments that 
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is made is, "The more you do, the more you make." ■ 
is 
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asking her how much can I make. 
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Again, detective Pagan is there, and 
is 
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asking 
how much can I make. 
is telling 
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that she'll have to ask Mr. Epstein that, that she is 
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going to see Mr. Epstein tomorrow and that she'll talk to 
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Mr. Epstein. There is conversation about ■ 
and her 
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twin sister possibly coming to Mr. Epstein's house. There 
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is some discussion about her coming to work for 
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Mr. Epstein. 
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Just so it's clear, because there were a lot of 
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shes, Illillis telling i 
that 
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Epstein the following day? 
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Yes. 
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And that 
is going to set up a schedule 
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with Mr. Epstein for ■ 
and her sister to work for him? 
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Yes. 
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On April 1, the following day, did 
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From the Palm Beach police department, they were 
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able to take voice mail messages left by i 
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phone stating that 
could come and work on Saturday 
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around 11:00. 
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I think you mentioned this last time, but in 
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case you didn't, did the Palm Beach police department do 
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trash pulls at Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Yes, they did. 
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Was there anything of value related to this 
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series of calls that were recovered? 
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Yes. There was a trash pull done in the 
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beginning of April, and in the trash there was a piece of 
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paper that on it had 
s name, 
name, and I 
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believe it was 10:30 listed on the piece of paper. 
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It said 
with Mon 
Saturday at 10:30? 
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Yes, it did. 
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In addition to the actual recordings of those 
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phone calls and voice mail messages, do you also have 
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telephone records from both 
cell phone and 
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cell phone that match up? 
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Yes. 
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Just to go back to something that you mentioned. 
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Who actually gave the $300 cash to 
at the day she was 
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at Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Mr. Epstein. 
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You mentioned a girl named 
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Yes. 
Was 
also interviewed? 
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Yes, she was. 
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Was she asked about going with 
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girls to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Was she asked who the youngest-looking girl was? 
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Yes. 
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What did she say? 
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She discussed 
looking young in her 
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interview with the Palm Beach police department. 
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Those are all of my questions 
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for you now. If you could please step outside, I'll 
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see if the grand jurors have any. 
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(Witness excused, and then returned.) 
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Agent 
we have just a few questions. 
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One relates to the conversation between Mr. Epstein and 
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about his exploits with other girls. Did Mr. Epstein 
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say anything about the age of those girls? 
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He said that -- in particular on one case he 
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talked about a young girl that he was in the back seat 
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with, and her parents were in the front seat. He told 
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that they were having sex in the back seat -- were 
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doing sexual things in the back seat while he was carrying 
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on a conversation with the parents in the Iront seat. I 
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guess they were on their way home from a business party. 
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This was one of the stories that he had talked about. 
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But at no time did he provide any specific ages 
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about any of those girls? 
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to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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She was 18. 
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Did Mr. Epstein ask Sage anything about her age? 
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He did. He asked her how old she was, she said 
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she was 18. He asked her what grade she was in, she said 
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she was in the 12th grade. He asked her where she went to 
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school, and she said she went to Wellington. 
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I know we will be doing a lot more discussion 
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about ilillillater. But could you tell us briefly how 
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IIIIIILwas recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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was at the beach, and two individuals 
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approached her about making money and giving a massage to 
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Mr. Epstein. 
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How old was 
when she first went to 
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starting at age 17. 
Those are all the questions. 
(Witness excused, and then returned.) 
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The question was, was there any particular 
evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein knew that 
was 
under the age of 18? 
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I would say through the interviews of the 
multiple girls that went to Mr. Epstein's house -- the way 
that having seen 
last night, and now she's 16 -- this 
was two years ago -- that 1111111age and behavior -- and 
again, is that more circumstantial evidence? As far as 
concrete evidence, no. But just by her appearance and her 
mannerisms and how I observed her last night at age 16. 
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And that's consistent with what 
during her statement, correct? 
said 
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Yes, it is. 
MS. a 
Any other questions? 
JUROR: 
Did she look 18? 
THE WITNESS: Does illillook 18? Not in my 
opinion, sir. 
MS. 
All right. Any other questions? 
Okay, thank you, very much. 
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(Witness excused.) 
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 
I CERTIFY pages 1 to 28 is a true transcript of 
my shorthand notes of the testimony of 
before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 
Beach, Florida, on the 27th day of February, 2007. 
Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 18th day 
of March, 2007. 
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U.S. Department of Justice 
United States Attorney 
Southern District of Florida 
500 South Australian Ave., Suite 400 
West Palm Beach, FL. 3340/ 
(561) 820.8711 
Facsimile: (561) 820-8777 
March 15, 2007 
DELIVE Y Y HAND 
Miss 
Re: 
Crime Victims' and Witnesses' Rights 
Dear Miss 
Pursuant to the Justice for All Act of 2004, as a victim and/or witness of a federal offense, 
you have a number of rights. Those rights are: 
(I) 
The right to be reasonably protected from the accused. 
(2) 
The right to reasonable, accurate, and timely notice of any public court proceeding 
involving the crime or of any release or escape of the accused. 
(3) 
The right not to be excluded from any public court proceeding, unless the court 
determines that your testimony may be materially altered if you are present for other 
portions of a proceeding. 
(4) 
The right to be reasonably heard at any public proceeding in the district court 
involving release, plea, or sentencing. 
(5) 
The reasonable right to confer with the attorney for the United States in the case. 
(6) 
The right to full and timely restitution as provided in law. 
(7) 
The right to proceedings free from unreasonable delay. 
(8) 
The right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim's dignity and 
privacy. 
Members of the U.S. Department of Justice and other federal investigative agencies, 
including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, must use their best efforts to make sure that these 
rights are protected. If you have an concerns in this regard, please feel free to contact me at 561 
209-1047, or Special Agent 
from the Federal Bureau of Investigation at 561 
822-5946. You also can contact t e Justice Department's Office for Victims of Crime in 
Washington, D.C. at 202-307-5983. That Office has a website at www.ovc.gov. 
You can seek the advice of an attorney with respect to the rights listed above and, if you 
believe that the rights set forth above are being violated, you have the right to petition the Court for 
relief. 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
TESTIMONY 
OF 
SPECIAL AGENT 
COPY 
Federal Grand Jury 07-103 
Federal Building 
U.S. Courthouse 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 
APPEARANCES: 
Assistant United States Attorney 
Foreperson 
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The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 
was taken before the Federal 
Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 
Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, 
State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 20, 2007. 
Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 
Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 
33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 
testimony. 
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
THE FOREPERSON: 
You do solemnly swear 
that the testimony you give will be the 
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 
truth, so help you God? 
THE WITNESS: 
I do. 
THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 
seated. 
EXAMINATION 
Q 
Special Agent 
could you 
please state and spell your name for the record? 
It's
A 
 
It's 
Q 
Now Special Agent 
last week 
or the last time that we met, we discussed two 
girls, correct? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Who visited Mr. Epstein's home? 
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Yes. 
Q 
And those were 
and 
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Yes. 
Q 
Did you obtain photographs of those 
girls? 
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Yes, I did. 
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And do you know approximately when those 
photographs were taken? 
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They were taken during the same time 
period that we are investigating, '04 and '05. 
There may have been a few in '03, but it was 
within a year's time of six months within the 
activity that we are investigating. 
Q 
All right. Let me show you what has 
been marked as Grand Jury Exhibits 1 and 2, and 
can you tell us what Exhibit 1 is? 
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Exhibit 1 is illiblland 
it's a 
photograph of her with her date of birth listed. 
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And what is Exhibit 2? 
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A photograph of 
with her date 
of birth as well on it. 
MS. 
And I will just pass 
those to the grand jury. 
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Q 
Now the last time that we were here, you 
had described how 
had 
IIIIIIII 
brought IIIIIIIII 
to Mr. Epstein's home? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Did IIIIIIIIIbring other girls to the 
Epstein house? 
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Yes, she did. 
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And is one of those girls 
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Yes. 
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And what is the date of birth of 
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She was born 
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And where did 
go to high 
school? 
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Royal Palm Beach High School. 
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And is that the same school that 
4IIIIIIIIwent to? 
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Yes. 
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And was 
ver a student at that 
school? 
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Yes, she was. 
Q 
Tell us a little bit about -- well, 
first of all, did the Palm Beach Police Department 
have a chance to interview 
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Yes, they did. 
Q 
And what about yourself? 
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And I did as well. 
Q 
Okay. Tell us, if you will, how 
started going to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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was the one who brought 
to 
Mr. Epstein's house. 
told 
that she 
may have to remove her clothing and that she could 
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makes $200 if she performed a massage for Mr. 
Epstein. 
IIIIII 
She also was told by 
that he may 
try to touch you, but if you are uncomfortable, 
just tell him no, and she also said that if 
Epstein asked her age, she was to say she was 18. 
Q 
Now that information that you just 
relayed, who provided that information? 
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IIIIIM
IIM
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And what did 
--
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I'm sorry. 
provided in the 
interview to me that information. 
Q 
Did 
also admit that she brought 
to Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
When did this first occur? 
A 
This occurred in -- we believe the first 
time period was when 
was 16. 
Q 
And is there any telephone records that 
show communications between 
and 
and 
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Yes. 
Q 
And when are those phone records? 
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Those phone records show up in March of 
'04 when 
would be 16. 
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Q 
Let me show what has been marked as 
Grand Jury Exhibit Number 3, and what is Exhibit 
3? 
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This is a photograph of 
with 
her date of birth, 
Q 
Now you mentioned that in March of 2004 
and April of 2004, there are these records of 
phone calls and did 
say how old she was 
when she first went to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
I'm sorry. Did 
say how old she 
was? 
Q 
Did she tell you or the police officers 
how old she was? 
A 
Yes. 
I'm sorry. 
I thought your 
question was did she tell Mr. Epstein. 
She told me that she was 16 when she 
went to Mr. Epstein's house. 
Q 
Okay. That is consistent with those 
phones calls? 
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Yes, it is. 
Q 
Okay. 
Now during her first visit with 
Mr. Epstein, what happened? 
A 
She went to Mr. Epstein's house. 
took her there. 
told her she didn't have 
her driver's license at that time, which she told 
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her she got her driver's license when she was 17. 
So 
drove her to Mr. Epstein's 
house. She provided Mr. Epstein with a Iew 
massages. She remained clothed both times that 
she gave him a massage. 
At this time, she kept 
her clothes on. 
I think one time she was wearing shorts 
and a T-shirt, maybe the second time she was 
wearing jeans and a T-shirt. That he constantly 
grabbed and pulled at her during the massage 
trying to draw her closer to him, but at that 
time, you know, there was no sexual activity other 
than the grabbing and pulling. 
There was no sexual activity that took 
place on those Iirst couple of massages, and she 
remained clothed at that time. 
Q 
Now after those first few massages, was 
there a break in time before 
returns to 
the Epstein house? 
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told us that she and 
had 
had some kind of a fight or a disagreement, a 
breakup in their relationship, so there was a time 
period where she did not go back to Mr. Epstein's 
house. 
Q 
And when -- did there then come a time 
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when she returned to the Epstein house? 
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Yes. 
We have phone activity between 
Kellen and 
Z. beginning in December 
of '04. 
Q 
And how old was 
in December 
of '04? 
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She had turned 17 at that time. 
In 
fact, through the course of the phone records 
beginning in December of 
IIIIIIIIIII 
we have over 150 phone calls between 
04 to October of 2005, 
and 
Mr. Epstein's assistant. 
Q 
What did 
tell you about the 
activity that occurred when she started returning 
in late '04? 
A 
When she started giving Mr. Epstein 
massages after that break, the massages became 
much more sexual in nature. Mr. Epstein continued 
to push and there were many times when 
would perform massages completely nude. 
Several times, she would stay in her 
underwear with no bra on, but stated to me that 
many occasions she performed the massages to Mr. 
Epstein in the nude. 
In addition to being unclothed, was 
there other sexual activity? 
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Yes, there was. 
during my 
interview with 
she became very upset when 
discussing the sexual activity that took place at 
that time. 
She stated that Mr. Epstein had 
digitally penetrated her. 
It began first by 
rubbing her on the outside pf her vagina and then 
on more than one occasion actually penetrating her 
with his fingers. 
He would request her to pinch his 
nipples. 
He rubbed her breasts as well. She 
stated that there was a vibrator that was used on 
her vagina as well, did not penetrate her, but 
that she described the vibrator as being a, white 
vibrator with a gray head, and several of the 
other victims have said the same thing, described 
it similar to that. 
Q 
And just before I forget, when you 
IMIE
testified about 
did 
also report 
having a vibrator used on her? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And, again, so the record is clear, when 
you are talking about these vibrators, they are 
the large back massager type vibrator? 
A 
We have had some girls just describe 
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them as a vibrator. We have had some girls just 
describe them as a back massager and then we also 
had girls describe them as both, because of the 
size of it, I think some girls are more aware of 
what a vibrator would look like due to their ages. 
You know, I don't know that everybody 
knew exactly what a sexual vibrator looked like, 
but they all vibrated, and we have actually had 
that described, and 
described it as both, 
a vibrator slash massager, saying that it was, you 
know, large in nature. 
Q 
Okay. 
Now in addition to using that 
massager and digitally penetrating 
was 
there other sexual activity? 
A 
Yes. Several times during the massages, 
Mr. Epstein would havesstraddle 
him while 
he laid on his stomach and then he would reach 
between her legs and masturbate and 
occasionally --
Q 
And this is when he was laying on his 
back not his stomach? 
A 
I'm sorry. Did I say that? 
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You said on his stomach. 
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He is laying on his back. 
She's on top 
of him straddled, and he is reaching between her 
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masturbating, and he has attempted to put his 
penis on her vagina, never penetrating her, but 
that was what was described to us by 
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Q 
Now when was 
first interviewed 
by the Palm Beach Police? 
A 
She was interviewed October 6th of 2005. 
Q 
And at that time, did she say when her 
last visit was to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
Yes, she said October 1st, 2005, was the 
last massage that she had given Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
Is there any other evidence that was 
recovered from Mr. Epstein's or his household 
items that would confirm that statement? 
A 
We have a message pad. During the 
search warrant, several of the message pads -- I 
don't know if we referred to them at this stage. 
We may not have. 
We recovered -- well, I shouldn't say 
we, the Palm Beach Police Department recovered 
several message pads. They were carbon copy 
message pads. 
So we have several of those books from 
their search warrant and in there, there is a 
message on October 1st confirming 
appointment for the mas 
as well as another 
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