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FBI VOL00009

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owned by Hyperion and J.E.G.E.? 
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Yes. 
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Did you also get corporate documents related to 
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those two planes? 
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Yes, we have. 
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Q 
Once you had obtained all of this information, 
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When you spoke with those girls, did any of them 
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tell you that they had developed some sort of a personal 
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relationship with the assistants so that they were just 
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Said that the phone calls were made to set up 
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appointments for Mr. Epstein. 
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Q 
And the girls referred to it as appointments to 
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work, is that right? 
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Yes, they were appointments to work. There is 
did the FBI analyze the data, specifically the call 
information and the flight information to put together a 
pattern of activity by the defendants? 
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Yes, we did. 
Q 
So you have a series of phone calls coming from 
these three assistants who were on the board, the two 
girls who have been identified through this investigation? 
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Yes. 
chatting over the telephone? 
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No, not at all. 
Q 
All of them said what about the phone calls? 
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one exception, 
We're going to talk about her 
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probably next week. She did say on one or two occasions 
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that 
had called her when she had gone out 
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to California on a trip, I believe. But that is the only 
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time that that was ever mentioned. In fact, we asked, and 
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those phone calls were made for the purpose of setting up 
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appointments for Mr. Epstein. 
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Q 
Is the investigation continuing? 
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Yes, it is. 
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Q 
Are you still trying to locate and interview 
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more girls? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
Let's turn to the specific evidence reporting 
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the overt acts and offenses relating to Jane Doe's 1 
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through 5. I know that every member of the grand jury has 
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a copy of the draft indictment before them, and also a 
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chart. 
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Do you have a copy of that chart as well? 
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I do. 
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Q 
Do you have photographs of the five girls that 
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we are going to talk about today? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
And these are photographs of the people that we 
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are calling Jane Doe's 1 through 5? 
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A 
Yes. 
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testified 
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And Jane Doe Number 1, you have previously 
about her? 
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Yes, I have, that's 
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Q 
Jane Doe Number 2? 
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That is 
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Q 
Jane Doe Number 3? 
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That is 
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Q 
Jane Doe Number 4? 
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Q 
And Jane Doe Number 5? 
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That is 
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JUROR: The purpose of Epstein's business with 
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his planes, did he transport? 
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THE WITNESS: To travel around. 
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JUROR: So it wasn't like a business of 
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transporting other people? 
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THE WITNESS: He flew other guests, sometimes 
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unaccompanied, sometimes accompanied. 
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JUROR: 
do you have 
any evidence that they started young, like the rest 
of the recruits? 
THE WITNESS: We have evidence that they are his 
personal assistants employed by him, not that it was 
anything like what we were discussing. 
JUROR: There was an allegation that was made 
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earlier, back in February, during one of these 
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discussions, about a specific act that was performed. 
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Can I ask about that? We were told back in February 
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that one of the girls when interviewed had alleged 
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rape, and I hadn't heard about that allegation 
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recently. 
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THE WITNESS: That's probably Jane Doe Number 6. 
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We're going to talk about her, that he forcibly put 
her on the table and penetrated her. Yeah, she will 
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be coming up. We're going to do her probably next 
week. She'll be the first one we'll talk about. 
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BY MS. 
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Q 
So turning to Jane Doe Number 1, 
You 
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testified about her earlier before this grand jury, 
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correct? 
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Yes, I did. 
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Q 
And she also testified before this grand jury, 
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correct? 
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Yes. 
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Can you remind us of her date of birth? 
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She was born on 
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Could you briefly refresh the grand jury's 
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recollection of how she was recruited? 
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She was approached on a beach by 
and 
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Tony Figurello (phonetic). They approached her on a beach 
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and asked her if she wanted to perform massages for 
Mr. Epstein and make some money. 
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From the review of the phone records that you 
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have received, were you able to identify a telephone 
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number associated with Tony Figurello? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
In fact, has Tony Figurello been interviewed? 
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Yes, he has. 
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Q 
And has he admitted to being a recruiter for Mr. 
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Epstein? 
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Yes, recruiter and driver. 
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Q 
If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 2, 
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which appears on page five. That states, 'On or about 
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March 12, 2004, defendants Jeffrey Epstein and 
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caused Jane Doe Number 1 to travel to 358 Brillo Way of 
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Palm Beach, Florida.' 
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Can you tell us what evidence you have regarding 
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that? 
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We have reviewed phone records for 
and 
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that indicate the calls took place, as well 
phone 
as 
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records for Tony Figurello and 
and calls that took 
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place on or about those dates. We've also looked at a 
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flight manifest, and were able to show that Mr. Epstein 
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arrived the day before, on the 11th. We also have 
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statement where she describes the sexual activity that 
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took place. 
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Q 
On that date, March 12 of 2004, 
described 
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going to Mr. Epstein's house and performing a sexual 
massage? 
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Yes, on or about that day. 
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Q 
On or about that date, what did 
state 
about being paid? 
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She was paid $200. 
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Q 
And that relates to Overt Act Number 3? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
And she stated that Mr. Epstein is the person 
who gave her that? 
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She told us that in her statement. 
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Q 
If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 95, 
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which is on page 17. On or about February 6, 2005, 
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Epstein had Jane Doe Number 1 to make one or more 
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telephone calls to Jane Doe Number 2. 
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First of all, who is Jane Doe Number 2? 
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That would be 
, our youngest victim. 
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Q 
Can you tell us what evidence you have related 
to that overt act? 
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We have the girl's statements that calls were 
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made. We also reviewed the phone records that indicated 
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that there was telephonic contact between the numbers 
belonging to 
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describe 
looking 
house? 
And in the statement 
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of both girls, did they 
the person who called ■ 
work at Mr. Epstein's 
that 
is 
for someone to come and 
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Yes. 
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Q 
Looking at Overt Act Number 96. On or about 
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February 6, 2005, Epstein caused Jane Doe Number 1 to 
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transport Jane Doe Number 2 to 358 El Brillo Way. 
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What is the evidence related to that? 
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Again, the statements of 
support 
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that as further evidence, and also reviewing the phone 
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records 
between 
they indicate that there was telephonic contact 
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Overt Act Number 97, on or about February 6, 
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2005, Epstein made a payment of $300 to Jane Doe Number 2 
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and a payment of $200 to Jane Doe Number 1. 
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what was the evidence of that? 
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Both 
stated in their statements 
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that Sage 
bringing 
was paid $300, and 
was paid $200 for 
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Dellexplain why she was paid $300? 
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Yes, she was paid $300 because she performed her 
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massage. Mr. Epstein 
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After this date, after February 6, 2005, was 
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$300 found in 
school? 
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's purse when it was searched at her 
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Yes, it was, by a school administrator. 
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Q 
If you could look at Overt Act Number 117, which 
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is on page 19, and that states that on or about March 30, 
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2005, 
caused one or more calls to be made to a 
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telephone used by Jane Doe Number 1. 
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What evidence do you have related to that? 
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we reviewed the phone records of 
and 
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that indicate this. 
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And Overt Act 120, on or about March 31, 
Q 
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caused one or more calls to be made to a telephone used by 
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Jane Doe Number 1. 
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Again, we reviewed the phone records that 
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indicated there was telephonic contact between the numbers 
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belonging to 
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Then we have Overt Act Number 122, which is also 
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March 31, that Epstein and 
caused Jane Doe Number 1 
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to make a call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number 2. 
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What evidence do you have related to that? 
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We have phone records that we have reviewed 
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belonging to 
In this case, we also have a 
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voice mail that was provided to us by the Palm Beach 
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Police Department, a voice mail of 
leaving a voice 
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mail message on 
phone. 
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Q 
And Overt Act Number 123 refers to April 1st. 
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what evidence do you have related to that? 
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We have reviewed the phone records of 
and 
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that indicate telephonic contact was made on this 
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day. We also again have another recorded voice mail by 
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left on 
phone. 
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Q 
These later calls, the March-April calls, are 
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those the controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police 
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Department was involved in? 
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A 
There was controlled calls placed to 
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cell phone and to 
place of work by ■ 
under the 
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supervision of the Palm Beach Police Department. 
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Q 
And the voice mail message that you referred to 
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of 
■, 
what information was 
calling 
leaving 
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in that voice mail message? 
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was asking for.' to get back in touch, 
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that she had set up an appointment for 
at Epstein's 
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house on the following day, on that Saturday at around 
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10:30 or 11:00. 
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Q 
In addition to the phone records, was there 
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anything that the Palm Beach Police Department found that 
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also confirmed that this appointment actually was made. 
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As I mentioned earlier, the Palm Beach Police 
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Department was doing trash pulls on Mr. Epstein's 
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residence. In there, there were two messages or notes in 
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there on Epstein's personalized stationary. On it it 
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said, ' 
with 
on Saturday at 10:30, and 
on 
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Saturday with 
at 10:30." That's the exact message on 
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the two notes that were found in his trash when they 
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retrieved it on April 8. 
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Q 
If I could direct your attention to Count Number 
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Five, which appears on page 26. That is the charge of 
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enticement of a minor, referring to Jane Doe Number 1, and 
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Mr. Epstein and Miss 
are charged. 
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I know that you talked 
traffic. The calls between 
about the telephone 
and Tony Figurello, did 
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they fall within that March 7 through March 11 time 
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period? 
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A review of their telephone records do indicate 
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that there were phone calls made during that time. 
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Q 
And Jane Doe Number 1 actually went to Mr. 
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Epstein's home? 
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Yes, and performed a massage for him in the 
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nude. 
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Q 
And she was paid for that? 
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Yes, she was paid $200. 
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Q 
And he masturbated in front of her, correct? 
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Yes, he did. I would like to include that IIIII 
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took 
upstairs for that massage, and she also 
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set up the massage table and arranged the oil and lotions 
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for 
to do that massage. 
Q 
And also, just so it's clear, how old was 
at that time? 
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She was 17. 
MS. 
Are there any questions about 
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either how that evidence was presented or about the 
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charges related to Jane Doe Number 1? Seeing no 
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questions, we'll turn to Jane Doe Number 2. 
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BY MS. 
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Q 
You previously mentioned that that was 
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Yes. 
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Q 
Let's turn to Count Number Six, which is on page 
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26, which is the enticement of 
. If you could tell 
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the grand 
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jury about the evidence 
date of birth is 
related to that. 
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Q 
So during this period of February 5, 2005 to the 
6th, how old was she? 
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She was 14. 
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Q 
Can you remind the grand jury about the evidence 
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related to the enticement ofl 
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As we stated earlier, we talked about the 
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telephone calls. We have shown that the facility of 
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interstate commerce was used by the telephone calls made 
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by their cell phones. We examined specifically 
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Those calls were made to 
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set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein to have 
his massages. 
Pertaining to 
during the massage that 
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occurred on those dates, February 6, in particular, I 
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think I have discussed with you before what occurred on 
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that, that 
-- and that was his term for 
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it -- and that he 
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He did masturbate during that massage, and she 
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believed he ejaculated because he wiped off his penis with 
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a towel. She was paid $300, and we know that she was 14 
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at the time. 
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Q 
If we could turn to Count Number 43, which 
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appears on page 31. Count 43 is one of the travel counts. 
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If you could tell the grand jury, did a trip occur on 
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March 31, 2005? 
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A 
Yes, we have flight records that indicate a 
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flight occurred on that date. 
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Q 
What type of plane was used? 
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A 
I'm going to refer to the J.E.G.E., Incorporated 
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aircraft as just the Boeing 727. If we talk about the 
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Hyperion Air, Incorporated aircraft, which is the Gulf 
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Stream, I will just say the Gulf Stream. So on that date 
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he did travel on his Boeing 727, on 3-31. 
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Q 
And Mr. Epstein was aboard the plane on that 
day? 
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Yes, he was. 
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Q 
With respect to the March 31st trip, was there 
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evidence of him setting up the appointment with •rior 
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to that trip? 
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A 
We do have telephonic contact between 
and 
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as well a 
on the day before 
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and the day of travel. 
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Q 
And even though that appointment was never kept, 
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that 
never went to that appointment, you have the 
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notes that were retrieved from the garbage that showed 
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that Mr. Epstein was expecting ■ 
to show up for that 
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appointment? 
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A 
Yes. 
14 
Q 
Anything else with respect to that particular 
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count? 
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A 
We also have the controlled calls and the voice 
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mails. 
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Q 
Turning to Count Number 60, which appears on 
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page 34, that is the attempted enticement of 
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during the period of March 30 to April 1. 
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Again, at that point, 
was how old? 
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She was 14. 
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Q 
And we had talked about the telephone calls that 
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were used. One of the things that is relevant to this 
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particular count was that in addition to the fact that 
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was 14, did you interview a girl 
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hen she went to Mr. Epstein's house 
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February? 
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Yes, we did, that would be 
who went 
back 
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in 
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Q 
And 
was interviewed? 
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A 
Yes, she was interviewed by the Palm Beach 
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Police Department. 
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Q 
What did 
say about 
appearance? 
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That she 
looking girl that 
was the youngest 
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came. 
Q 
When you talked with 
did 
girls that Mr. Epstein liked in particular? 
A 
Yes. 
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And was Mane 
of those girls? 
A 
Yes, she was one of his preferences. 
talk about 
also 
told us that Mr. Epstein said to her on one occasion, 'The 
younger, the better." 
Q 
And there was never any attempt to get 
I.D. or to confirm her actual age? 
A 
No. 
Q 
As we discussed before, 
never actually went 
to that point, right, so that is just an attempt? 
A 
Yes. 
Are there any questions from the 
grand jury? Seeing no questions, we'll see you next 
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week. Thank you. 
(Witness excused.) 
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 
I CERTIFY pages 1 to 35 is a true transcript of 
my shorthand notes of the testimony of 
, before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 
Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. 
Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 23rd day 
of May, 2007. 
Philip W. May, Court Reporter 
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