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FBI VOL00009
EFTA00224005
35 pages
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Page 21 1 owned by Hyperion and J.E.G.E.? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Did you also get corporate documents related to 4 those two planes? 5 A Yes, we have. 6 Q Once you had obtained all of this information, 7 8 9 :0 11 :2 :3 14 15 Q When you spoke with those girls, did any of them 16 tell you that they had developed some sort of a personal 17 relationship with the assistants so that they were just 18 19 20 21 A Said that the phone calls were made to set up 22 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 23 Q And the girls referred to it as appointments to 24 work, is that right? 25 A Yes, they were appointments to work. There is did the FBI analyze the data, specifically the call information and the flight information to put together a pattern of activity by the defendants? A Yes, we did. Q So you have a series of phone calls coming from these three assistants who were on the board, the two girls who have been identified through this investigation? A Yes. chatting over the telephone? A No, not at all. Q All of them said what about the phone calls? EFTA00224025
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Page 22 1 one exception, We're going to talk about her 2 probably next week. She did say on one or two occasions 3 that had called her when she had gone out 4 to California on a trip, I believe. But that is the only 5 time that that was ever mentioned. In fact, we asked, and 6 those phone calls were made for the purpose of setting up 7 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 8 Q Is the investigation continuing? 9 A Yes, it is. io Q Are you still trying to locate and interview 11 more girls? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Let's turn to the specific evidence reporting 14 the overt acts and offenses relating to Jane Doe's 1 15 through 5. I know that every member of the grand jury has 16 a copy of the draft indictment before them, and also a 17 chart. 18 Do you have a copy of that chart as well? 19 A I do. 20 Q Do you have photographs of the five girls that 21 we are going to talk about today? 22 A Yes. 23 Q And these are photographs of the people that we 24 are calling Jane Doe's 1 through 5? 25 A Yes. EFTA00224026
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2 Q testified Page 23 And Jane Doe Number 1, you have previously about her? 3 A Yes, I have, that's 4 Q Jane Doe Number 2? 5 A That is 6 Q Jane Doe Number 3? 7 A That is 8 Q Jane Doe Number 4? 9 A 10 Q And Jane Doe Number 5? 11 A That is 12 JUROR: The purpose of Epstein's business with 13 his planes, did he transport? 14 THE WITNESS: To travel around. 15 JUROR: So it wasn't like a business of 16 transporting other people? :7 THE WITNESS: He flew other guests, sometimes 18 unaccompanied, sometimes accompanied. 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUROR: do you have any evidence that they started young, like the rest of the recruits? THE WITNESS: We have evidence that they are his personal assistants employed by him, not that it was anything like what we were discussing. JUROR: There was an allegation that was made EFTA00224027
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Page 24 1 earlier, back in February, during one of these 2 discussions, about a specific act that was performed. 3 Can I ask about that? We were told back in February 4 that one of the girls when interviewed had alleged 5 rape, and I hadn't heard about that allegation 6 recently. 7 THE WITNESS: That's probably Jane Doe Number 6. 9 We're going to talk about her, that he forcibly put her on the table and penetrated her. Yeah, she will 11 be coming up. We're going to do her probably next week. She'll be the first one we'll talk about. :2 BY MS. :3 Q So turning to Jane Doe Number 1, You 14 testified about her earlier before this grand jury, 15 correct? 16 A Yes, I did. 17 Q And she also testified before this grand jury, 18 correct? 19 A Yes. 20 Can you remind us of her date of birth? 21 A She was born on 22 Could you briefly refresh the grand jury's 23 recollection of how she was recruited? 24 A She was approached on a beach by and 25 Tony Figurello (phonetic). They approached her on a beach EFTA00224028
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1 2 3 Page 25 and asked her if she wanted to perform massages for Mr. Epstein and make some money. Q From the review of the phone records that you 4 have received, were you able to identify a telephone 5 number associated with Tony Figurello? 6 A Yes. 1 Q In fact, has Tony Figurello been interviewed? A Yes, he has. 9 Q And has he admitted to being a recruiter for Mr. 10 Epstein? 11 A Yes, recruiter and driver. 12 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 2, 13 which appears on page five. That states, 'On or about 14 March 12, 2004, defendants Jeffrey Epstein and 15 caused Jane Doe Number 1 to travel to 358 Brillo Way of 16 Palm Beach, Florida.' 17 Can you tell us what evidence you have regarding 18 that? 19 A We have reviewed phone records for and 20 that indicate the calls took place, as well phone as 21 records for Tony Figurello and and calls that took 22 place on or about those dates. We've also looked at a 23 flight manifest, and were able to show that Mr. Epstein 24 arrived the day before, on the 11th. We also have 25 statement where she describes the sexual activity that EFTA00224029
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Page 26 took place. 2 Q On that date, March 12 of 2004, described 3 4 going to Mr. Epstein's house and performing a sexual massage? 5 A Yes, on or about that day. 6 7 Q On or about that date, what did state about being paid? 8 A She was paid $200. 9 Q And that relates to Overt Act Number 3? 10 A Yes. 11 12 Q And she stated that Mr. Epstein is the person who gave her that? 13 A She told us that in her statement. 14 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 95, 15 which is on page 17. On or about February 6, 2005, 16 Epstein had Jane Doe Number 1 to make one or more 17 telephone calls to Jane Doe Number 2. 18 First of all, who is Jane Doe Number 2? 19 A That would be , our youngest victim. 20 21. Q Can you tell us what evidence you have related to that overt act? 22 A We have the girl's statements that calls were 23 made. We also reviewed the phone records that indicated 24 25 that there was telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to EFTA00224030
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1 2 3 4 Q describe looking house? And in the statement Page 27 of both girls, did they the person who called ■ work at Mr. Epstein's that is for someone to come and 5 A Yes. 6 Q Looking at Overt Act Number 96. On or about 7 February 6, 2005, Epstein caused Jane Doe Number 1 to 8 transport Jane Doe Number 2 to 358 El Brillo Way. 9 What is the evidence related to that? 10 A Again, the statements of support 11 that as further evidence, and also reviewing the phone 12 13 records between they indicate that there was telephonic contact 14 Overt Act Number 97, on or about February 6, 15 2005, Epstein made a payment of $300 to Jane Doe Number 2 16 and a payment of $200 to Jane Doe Number 1. 17 what was the evidence of that? 18 A Both stated in their statements 19 20 that Sage bringing was paid $300, and was paid $200 for 21 Q Dellexplain why she was paid $300? 22 A Yes, she was paid $300 because she performed her 23 massage. Mr. Epstein 24 25 Q After this date, after February 6, 2005, was EFTA00224031
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1 2 $300 found in school? Page 28 's purse when it was searched at her 3 A Yes, it was, by a school administrator. 4 Q If you could look at Overt Act Number 117, which 5 is on page 19, and that states that on or about March 30, 6 2005, caused one or more calls to be made to a 7 telephone used by Jane Doe Number 1. 8 What evidence do you have related to that? 9 A we reviewed the phone records of and 10 ■ that indicate this. 11 And Overt Act 120, on or about March 31, Q 12 caused one or more calls to be made to a telephone used by 13 Jane Doe Number 1. 14 A Again, we reviewed the phone records that 15 indicated there was telephonic contact between the numbers 16 belonging to 17 Q Then we have Overt Act Number 122, which is also 18 March 31, that Epstein and caused Jane Doe Number 1 19 to make a call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number 2. 20 What evidence do you have related to that? 21 A We have phone records that we have reviewed 22 belonging to In this case, we also have a 23 voice mail that was provided to us by the Palm Beach 24 Police Department, a voice mail of leaving a voice 25 mail message on phone. EFTA00224032
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Page 29 1 Q And Overt Act Number 123 refers to April 1st. 2 what evidence do you have related to that? 3 A We have reviewed the phone records of and 4 that indicate telephonic contact was made on this 5 day. We also again have another recorded voice mail by 6 left on phone. 7 Q These later calls, the March-April calls, are 8 those the controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police 9 Department was involved in? 10 A There was controlled calls placed to 11 cell phone and to place of work by ■ under the 12 supervision of the Palm Beach Police Department. 13 Q And the voice mail message that you referred to 14 of ■, what information was calling leaving 15 in that voice mail message? 16 A was asking for.' to get back in touch, 17 that she had set up an appointment for at Epstein's 18 house on the following day, on that Saturday at around 19 10:30 or 11:00. 20 Q In addition to the phone records, was there 21 anything that the Palm Beach Police Department found that 22 also confirmed that this appointment actually was made. 23 A As I mentioned earlier, the Palm Beach Police 24 Department was doing trash pulls on Mr. Epstein's 25 residence. In there, there were two messages or notes in EFTA00224033
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Page 30 1 there on Epstein's personalized stationary. On it it 2 said, ' with on Saturday at 10:30, and on 3 Saturday with at 10:30." That's the exact message on 4 the two notes that were found in his trash when they 5 retrieved it on April 8. 6 Q If I could direct your attention to Count Number 7 Five, which appears on page 26. That is the charge of 8 enticement of a minor, referring to Jane Doe Number 1, and 9 Mr. Epstein and Miss are charged. 10 11 I know that you talked traffic. The calls between about the telephone and Tony Figurello, did 12 they fall within that March 7 through March 11 time 13 period? 14 A A review of their telephone records do indicate 15 that there were phone calls made during that time. 16 Q And Jane Doe Number 1 actually went to Mr. 17 Epstein's home? 18 A Yes, and performed a massage for him in the 19 nude. 20 Q And she was paid for that? 21 A Yes, she was paid $200. 22 Q And he masturbated in front of her, correct? 2.3 A Yes, he did. I would like to include that IIIII 24 took upstairs for that massage, and she also 2S set up the massage table and arranged the oil and lotions EFTA00224034
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1 2 3 for to do that massage. Q And also, just so it's clear, how old was at that time? Page 31 4 A She was 17. MS. Are there any questions about 6 either how that evidence was presented or about the 7 charges related to Jane Doe Number 1? Seeing no 8 questions, we'll turn to Jane Doe Number 2. 9 BY MS. 10 Q You previously mentioned that that was 11 A Yes. 12 Q Let's turn to Count Number Six, which is on page 13 26, which is the enticement of . If you could tell 14 15 the grand A jury about the evidence date of birth is related to that. 16 17 Q So during this period of February 5, 2005 to the 6th, how old was she? 18 A She was 14. 19 Q Can you remind the grand jury about the evidence 20 related to the enticement ofl 21 A As we stated earlier, we talked about the 22 telephone calls. We have shown that the facility of 23 interstate commerce was used by the telephone calls made 24 by their cell phones. We examined specifically 25 Those calls were made to EFTA00224035
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1 2 3 Page 32 set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein to have his massages. Pertaining to during the massage that 4 occurred on those dates, February 6, in particular, I 5 think I have discussed with you before what occurred on 6 that, that -- and that was his term for 7 it -- and that he 8 He did masturbate during that massage, and she 9 believed he ejaculated because he wiped off his penis with 10 a towel. She was paid $300, and we know that she was 14 11 at the time. 12 Q If we could turn to Count Number 43, which 13 appears on page 31. Count 43 is one of the travel counts. 14 If you could tell the grand jury, did a trip occur on 15 March 31, 2005? 16 A Yes, we have flight records that indicate a 17 flight occurred on that date. 18 Q What type of plane was used? 19 A I'm going to refer to the J.E.G.E., Incorporated 20 aircraft as just the Boeing 727. If we talk about the 21 Hyperion Air, Incorporated aircraft, which is the Gulf 22 Stream, I will just say the Gulf Stream. So on that date 23 he did travel on his Boeing 727, on 3-31. 24 25 Q And Mr. Epstein was aboard the plane on that day? EFTA00224036
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Page 33 1 A Yes, he was. 2 Q With respect to the March 31st trip, was there 3 evidence of him setting up the appointment with •rior 4 to that trip? 5 A We do have telephonic contact between and 6 as well a on the day before 7 and the day of travel. 8 Q And even though that appointment was never kept, 9 that never went to that appointment, you have the 10 notes that were retrieved from the garbage that showed 11 that Mr. Epstein was expecting ■ to show up for that 12 appointment? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Anything else with respect to that particular 15 count? 16 A We also have the controlled calls and the voice 17 mails. 18 Q Turning to Count Number 60, which appears on 19 page 34, that is the attempted enticement of 20 during the period of March 30 to April 1. 21 Again, at that point, was how old? 22 A She was 14. 23 Q And we had talked about the telephone calls that 24 were used. One of the things that is relevant to this 25 particular count was that in addition to the fact that EFTA00224037
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1 r was 14, did you interview a girl 2 hen she went to Mr. Epstein's house 3 February? 4 A Yes, we did, that would be who went back Page 34 with in 5 Q And was interviewed? 6 A Yes, she was interviewed by the Palm Beach 7 Police Department. 8 Q What did say about appearance? 9 A That she looking girl that was the youngest 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 came. Q When you talked with did girls that Mr. Epstein liked in particular? A Yes. • And was Mane of those girls? A Yes, she was one of his preferences. talk about also told us that Mr. Epstein said to her on one occasion, 'The younger, the better." Q And there was never any attempt to get I.D. or to confirm her actual age? A No. Q As we discussed before, never actually went to that point, right, so that is just an attempt? A Yes. Are there any questions from the grand jury? Seeing no questions, we'll see you next EFTA00224038
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Page 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 77 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 week. Thank you. (Witness excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I CERTIFY pages 1 to 35 is a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of , before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 23rd day of May, 2007. Philip W. May, Court Reporter EFTA00224039
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