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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
/ 
COPY 
Federal Grand Jury 07-103 
Federal Building 
U.S. Courthouse 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 
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'estimony of SPECIAL AGENT E. 
as taken before the Federal 
Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal 
Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, 
State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 20, 2007. 
Certified Court 
Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 
33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 
testimony. 
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OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC 
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 
that the testimony you give will be the 
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 
truth, so help you God? 
THE WITNESS: 
I do. 
THE FOREPERSON: 
seated. 
BY MS. VILLAFANA: 
Thank you. Please be 
EXAMINATION 
, could you 
please state and spell your name for the record? 
Q 
Now Special Agent 
1, last week 
or the last time that we met, we discussed two 
girls, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Who visited Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And those were 
and 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Did you obtain photographs of those 
girls? 
Yes, I did. 
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Q 
And do you know approximately when those 
photographs were taken? 
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They were taken during the same time 
period that we are investigating, '04 and '05. 
There may have been a few in '03, but it was 
within a year's time of six months within the 
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activity that we are investigating. 
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Q 
All right. Let me show you what has 
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been marked as Grand Jury Exhibits 1 and 2, and 
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can you tell us what Exhibit 1 is? 
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Exhibit 1 is 
and it's a 
12 photograph of her with her date of birth listed. 
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And what is Exhibit 2? 
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A photograph of 
with her date 
15 of birth as well on it. 
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MS. 
And I will just pass 
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those to the grand jury. 
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Q 
Now the last time that we were here, you 
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had described how 
had brought Saige G. 
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to Mr. Epstein's home? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
Did 
bring other girls to the 
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Epstein house? 
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Yes, she did. 
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Q 
And is one of those girls 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And what is the date of birth of 
Vanessa Z.? 
A 
She was born June 6, 1987. 
Q 
And where did 
go to high 
school? 
A 
Royal Palm Beach High School. 
Q 
And is that the same school that 
went to? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And was 
ever a student at that 
school? 
Yes, she was. 
Q 
Tell us a little bit about 
well, 
first of all, did the Palm Beach Police Department 
have a chance to interview 
A 
Yes, they did. 
Q 
And what about yourself? 
A 
And I did as well. 
Q 
Okay. Tell us, if you will, how 
started going to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
was the one who brought 
to 
Mr. Epstein's house. 
told 
that she 
may have to remove her clothing and that she could 
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makes $200 if she performed a massage for Mr. 
Epstein. 
She also was told by 
that he may 
try to touch you, but if you are uncomfortable, 
just tell him no, and she also said that if 
Epstein asked her age, she was to say she was 18. 
Q 
Now that information that you just 
relayed, who provided that information? 
A 
Q 
And what did 
A 
I'm sorry. 
provided in the 
interview to me that information. 
also admit that she brought 
o Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
When did this first occur? 
A 
This occurred in -- we believe the first 
time period was when 
was 16. 
Q 
And is there any telephone records that 
show communications between 
nd 
Haley R. and 
and 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And when are those phone records? 
A 
Those phone records show up in March of 
'04 when 
would be 16. 
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Q 
Let me show what has been marked as 
Grand Jury Exhibit Number 3, and what is Exhibit 
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3? 
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This is a photograph of 
with 
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her date of birth, 6-6-1987. 
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Q 
Now you mentioned that in March of 2004 
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and April of 2004, there are these records of 
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phone calls and did111111111 say how old she was 
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when she first went to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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I'm sorry. Did 
say how old she 
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was? 
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Did she tell you or the police officers 
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Yes. 
I'm sorry. 
I thought your 
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She told me that she was 16 when she 
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went to Mr. Epstein's house. 
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Q 
Okay. That is consistent with those 
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phones calls? 
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Yes, it is. 
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Q 
Okay. 
Now during her first visit with 
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Mr. Epstein, what happened? 
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She went to Mr. Epstein's house. Haley 
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took her there. 
told her she didn't have 
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her driver's license at that time, which she told 
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her she got her driver's license when she was 17. 
So 
drove her to Mr. Epstein's 
house. She provided Mr. Epstein with a few 
massages. She remained clothed both times that 
she gave him a massage. At this time, she kept 
her clothes on. 
I think one time she was wearing shorts 
and a T-shirt, maybe the second time she was 
wearing jeans and a T-shirt. That he constantly 
grabbed and pulled at her during the massage 
trying to draw her closer to him, but at that 
time, you know, there was no sexual activity other 
than the grabbing and pulling. 
There was no sexual activity that took 
place on those first couple of massages, and she 
remained clothed at that time. 
Q 
Now after those first few massages, was 
there a break in time before Vanessa returns to 
the Epstein house? 
A 
told us that she and 
had 
had some kind of a fight or a disagreement, a 
breakup in their relationship, so there was a time 
period where she did not go back to Mr. Epstein's 
house. 
Q 
And when -- did there then come a time 
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when she 
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returned to the Epstein house? 
Yes. 
We have phone activity between 
beginning in December 
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of '04. 
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And how old was 
in December 
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of '04? 
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She had turned 17 at that time. 
In 
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fact, through the course of the phone records 
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beginning in December of '04 to October of 2005, 
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we have over 150 phone calls between 
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and 
Kellen, Mr. Epstein's assistant. 
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Q 
What did IIIIIIIIIIII tell you about the 
13 activity that occurred when she started returning 
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in late '04? 
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When she started giving Mr. Epstein 
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massages after that break, the massages became 
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much more sexual in nature. 
Mr. Epstein continued 
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to push and there were many times when Vanessa Z. 
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would perform massages completely nude. 
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Several times, she would stay in her 
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underwear with no bra on, but stated to me that 
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many occasions she performed the massages to Mr. 
23 Epstein in the nude. 
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In addition to being unclothed, was 
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there other sexual activity? 
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Yes, there was. 
interview with 
she 
discussing the sexual activity 
that time. 
She stated that 
digitally penetrated her. 
uring my 
upset when 
place at 
had 
by 
became very 
that took 
Mr. Epstein 
It began first 
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rubbing her on the outside pf her vagina and then 
8 on more than one occasion actually penetrating her 
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with his fingers. 
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He would request her to pinch his 
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nipples. He rubbed her breasts as well. She 
12 stated that there was a vibrator that was used on 
13 her vagina as well, did not penetrate her, but 
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that she described the vibrator as being a white 
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vibrator with a gray head, and several of the 
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other victims have said the same thing, described 
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it similar to that. 
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Q 
And just before I forget, when you 
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testified about 
, did 
also report 
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having a vibrator used on her? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
And, again, so the record is clear, when 
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you are talking about these vibrators, they are 
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the large back massager type vibrator? 
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We have had some girls just describe 
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them as a vibrator. 
We have had some girls just 
describe them as a back massager and then we also 
had girls describe them as both, because of the 
size of it, I think some girls are more aware of 
what a vibrator would look like due to their ages. 
You know, I don't know that everybody 
knew exactly what a sexual vibrator looked like, 
but they all vibrated, and we have actually had 
that described, an-described 
it as both, 
a vibrator slash massager, saying that it was, you 
know, large in nature. 
Q 
Okay. 
Now in addition to using that 
massager and digitally penetrating Vanessa, was 
there other sexual activity? 
A 
Yes. Several times during the massages, 
Mr. Epstein would have 
straddle him while 
he laid on his stomach and then he would reach 
between her legs and masturbate and 
occasionally --
Q 
And this is when he was laying on his 
back not his stomach? 
A 
I'm sorry. Did I say that? 
Q 
You said on his stomach. 
A 
He is laying on his back. She's on top 
of him straddled, and he is reaching between her 
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masturbating, and he has attempted to put his 
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penis on her vagina, never penetrating her, but 
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that was what was described to us by 
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Q 
Now when was 
first interviewed 
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by the Palm Beach Police? 
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She was interviewed October 6th of 2005. 
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Q 
And at that time, did she say when her 
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last visit was to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Yes, she said October 1st, 2005, was the 
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last massage that she had given Mr. Epstein. 
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Q 
Is there any other evidence that was 
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recovered from Mr. Epstein's or his household 
13 items that would confirm that statement? 
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We have a message pad. During the 
15 search warrant, several of the message pads --
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don't know if we referred to them at this stage. 
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We may not have. 
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We recovered -- well, I shouldn't say 
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we, the Palm Beach Police Department recovered 
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several message pads. They were carbon copy 
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message pads. 
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So we have several of those books from 
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their search warrant and in there, there is a 
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message on October 1st confirming 
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appointment for the massage as well as another 
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Q 
And is there also evidence that 
actually spoke on October 1st 
before that message? 
A 
We have cell phone calls between 
as well as the message which 
was from 
to Jeffrey regarding -- confirming 
the appointment for 
but we have a cell 
phone call I believe it was a little bit earlier 
from 
or maybe it was 
to 
, but it is definitely between the two of 
them on that same day. 
Q 
All right. When 
was interviewed 
by the Palm Beach Police Department, did she 
describe all of the sexual activity? 
A 
No, she did not. She did not tell them 
about the vibrator or the -- she didn't tell them 
about the vibrator or the penetration. 
Q 
And, again, you said that when you 
brought up -- did you sort of confront her with 
the idea that more had occurred? 
A 
I did, and she was very embarrassed 
about the vibrator. 
I asked her at one point if 
Mr. Epstein had given her any gifts and she got 
very red in the face and began to tear up and you 
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could see that she was very embarrassed. 
So we took a little bit of a break, but 
then she was able to say that Mr. Epstein had 
provided her as a birthday present a vibrator. So 
not only was there a vibrator back massager used 
on her, but at this time -- and I think that's 
kind of what got 
talking about the sexual 
activity that she was able to tell me that, and 
she was very, very embarrassed, but that Mr. 
Epstein had given her for her eighteenth birthday 
a vibrator. 
Q 
Now you mentioned that that happened on 
her eighteenth birthday? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And was she able to tell you whether Mr. 
Epstein knew it was her eighteenth birthday? 
A 
She stated that Mr. Epstein provided to 
her on her eighteenth birthday the vibrator and 
shortly -- well --
Q 
So before you had said that 
had 
instructed 
to tell everyone that she was 
18; do you remember that? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
But at some point, the people in the 
Epstein household learned that she hadn't turned 
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Her birthday was coming up. 
Q 
And at some point, was a car provided 
for 
A 
Yes. 
In October of '05, 
was 
having 
asked Mr. Epstein is she could 
borrow one of his cars to go to Orlando and he 
stated that -- at first he said yes, and then he 
said he would get her a rental car. 
contacted 
L a few days 
later and said that a car had been rented for 
and that the house manager used the 
company credit card and 
picked up that 
car, and actually when the police interviewed her 
on October 6th, which was five or six days after 
the last massage, they were able to see that that 
Nissan Sentra that had been rented by Mr. Epstein, 
Vanessa had that in her possession for at least 
through January 1st of 2006 and that car was 
rented by Mr. Epstein for at least that amount of 
time. 
Q 
Did 
describe how the massage 
appointments would be made? 
A 
Yes, she did. 
Q 
And how was that? 
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She stated that 
OM Jeffrey's assistant, 
that 
her and set 
would call 
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up appointments, and that sometimes she would call 
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her on her cell phone from New York, from the 
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Islands, and say that they were coming into town, 
6 was she available. 
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She would also call 
while they 
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were in town to see if she was available for 
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massages, to give massages to Mr. Epstein, and 
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stated that I'll.' who we have identified as 
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called her a few times as well to set 
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And when those appointments were made 
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how would 
reach 
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By phone. 
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Q 
All right. And whether she was in town 
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or out of town, she would call 
; cell 
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phone? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
All right. 
Now was there any -- during 
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the interview with the police department, did the 
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police department ask 
about what she 
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massages? 
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I would have to check the police reports 
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to give specifics on that. 
Q 
All right. 
A 
My answer to your question is yes. 
Q 
Okay. And what did she say were some of 
/the topics of discussion? 
A 
Mr. Epstein asked her questions about 
herself, asked her if she was a soccer player or 
that 
Jeffrey knew that she was a soccer player 
;and asked questions about her college, about where 
t 
she was going to school. 
t 
IIIIIIIIIIIs 
currently going to Lynn 
)University, and she had advised Mr. Epstein that 
\ she would be attending college at Lynn University. 
i 
Q 
So that was a -- but that was her future 
)plan? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know 
that she was in high school at the time? 
A 
Yes, he did. 
And the Palm Beach Police 
asked 
if Jeffrey knew her age and 
told the Palm Beach Police Department, he didn't 
care what my age was. 
Q 
Now did 
describe either to you 
or to the police department how she would be paid 
for these massages? 
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She stated she was paid $200 and that 
she received anywhere from two to $300. 
Q 
With every visit? 
A 
With each visit. 
Q 
Okay. Did she say who would provide her 
with that money? 
A 
She said that Jeffrey paid her at the 
end of the massage. 
Q 
All right. You mentioned the gift of 
the vibrator. 
Were there other gifts that were 
given to 
A 
Yes. The time period is unclear, but 
the vibrator was given to her for her eighteenth 
birthday. There were three sets of bra and 
underwear, panties, Victoria Secret bra and 
underwear sets that were also given to 
as 
gifts from Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
Now I know that we talked earlier about 
the fact that 
is the person who brought 
to Mr. Epstein's house. Did 
ever 
bring anyone to Mr. Epstein's house? 
IMM
IIIM
A 
brought a female by the name of 
and that was a friend of 
Q 
And let me show you what has been marked 
as Grand Jury Exhibit 4, and what is Grand Jury 
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Exhibit 4? 
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It's a photograph of 
with a 
date of birth of 6-1-1986. 
Q 
How old was 111111111 when 
Eni
 
took 
her to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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took her there in the spring of 
2005 and 
was 18 at that time. 
Q 
Now can you tell us now 
went 
about bringing 
to the house? 
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old 
hat she could make 
some money giving a massage to Mr. Epstein and 
ent to Mr. Epstein's house 
together. 
The first time that 
ent there, 
she did not go upstairs and gives 
massage. 
IIIIIII 
was working that day. But in talking to 
further, 
stated that she probably 
over the period of time between the spring of '05 
and October of '05, performed around five to ten 
massages for Mr. Epstein. 
The first few of those he did not do 
anything as far as no masturbating, no sexual 
activity. She would just perform a massage. 
Q 
And did that change over time? 
A 
Yes, it did. She stated that she 
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performed two to three massages out of those five 
or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and 
that he would push her each time. 
He would just push her to do more and on 
the third -- I believe she stated the third or 
fourth massage, he told her that she could make 
more money if she removed her clothing, because 
she stayed clothed during the first few massages, 
and she was paid $200 for each of those massages. 
On the third or fourth massage, Mr. 
Epstein said that she could make more money if she 
removed her clothing. So around the fourth or 
fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing 
down to her underwear and bra only. 
Q 
And then what happened when she was at 
that point of being unclothed? 
A 
She would perform the massage. He 
attempted to touch her, but she always would say 
no. 
At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr. 
Epstein, but she does keep it up. 
Q 
Now that was the extent of his touching 
. At some point, did he begin masturbating 
in front of her? 
A 
Yes, he did. 
Not in the very beginning, 
but throughout this he did. 
Now I should tell you 
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