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FD.302 (Rev 54-10) 
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FEDERALBUREAU(WINVEBUGKUON 
Cute oremry  
09/17/2021
, date of birth (DOB) 
, was interviewed 
pursuant to a proffer agreement at SDNY 1 Saint An rews Plaza New York NY. 
Present for the interview was 
attorney 
along 
with AUSA 
AUSA 
and Detective 
. After 
being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of 
the interview, 
provided the following information: 
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is shown the "black book" (72-mm-113327-1k9)*** 
states that she recognizes this. She previously described this as 
MAXWELL's contact book. 
recognizes the color and the size and the 
format. The other contact books were bigger and a pastel color. All of 
MAXWELL's books were smaller. 
recognizes the black color and the 
smaller font. EPSTEIN's font was bigger. 
has seen this book previously. This is one of MAXWELL's books, 
there were a few of them. The smaller font is familiar. 
has opened 
it before but may not have used the numbers out of it. 
may have 
been told by someone that this is MAXWELL's book but not sure. 
was 
tasked with updating EPSTEIN's book which was bigger. 
may have 
told 
about EPSTEIN's book. 
is not sure if she has ever seen 
MAXWELL with this book or if she just talked about it. 
There was a confidentiality notice with EPTEIN's book because of the names 
in them. 
does not recall using this book to call and make massage 
appointments. The specific contacts in the book don't stand out. This book 
was seen in the small office behind the kitchen referred to as MAXWELL's 
office. This is where 
recalls seeing it. 
Names that stand out in this book are CAROLE RADZIWILL and JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 
She recalls that RADZIWILL came to MAXWELL's home in New York and she 
Inwstigation on 08/20/2021 m New York, New York, United States (In Person) 
Filed SOD-NY-3027571 
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published a book. Her and EPSTEIN discussed the book. 
does not 
recall seeing her with ESTEIN. 
Both MAXWELL and EPSTEIN knew BRUNEL. He is very close to EPSTEIN and he 
had an apartment in EPSTEIN's New York apartment building. 
recalls seeing this book in other houses, perhaps in the New Mexico 
house. 
recalls gathering EPSTEIN's books from the Virgin Island but 
does not recall gathering MAXWELL's. 
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is shown the message pads with sticky note book $4 (31E-mm-
108062 182-36)*** 
states the sticky note on page 5 could be her handwriting but not 
sure. Upon further inspection 
states, she does not think these 
notes are hers. 
recognizes these books and the carbon copies and the messages. 
would leave messages for EPSTEIN in the pantry in the kitchen. 
recalls seeing more than one of these pads. Some were kept in a 
drawer. 
EPSTEIN went by "JE" on the pads and the staff would refer to him in the 
book as "Mr Epstein". Some of the staff taking messages was 
and the house manager ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ. 
sees a lot of "AR" in the 
book. RODRIGUEZ was later fired. 
would not recognize other staff members hand writing but she 
understands how they would sign ("Mr Epstein"). 
recognizes the name 
came for massages and brought 
other girls for massage. She was pregnant at one point when she came over. 
recognizes JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 
recognizes MOSCOVITZ to be EPSTEIN's doctor in Palm Beach. 
recognizes DARREN to be EPSTEIN's lawyer. 
would still have an obligation to schedule massages even when she 
wasn't at the house. 
refers to the 2" to last page where there is a 
message left for 
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is shown the message pads with sticky note book 61 (31E-mm-
108062 1B1-2AC)*** 
recognizes that the book is in November and states that EPSTEIN 
would have been there around that time. 
recognizes HARVEY WEINSTEIN's name in the book and states it 
triggered her ( 
cries). EPSTEIN encouraged a victim of WEINSTEIN's 
to talk to an attorney but it turned out that the attorney was an attorney 
for WEINSTEIN. EPSTEIN would bring these pretty model girls around these 
business men to further his business. 
states that some of the handwriting in this book looks like hers but 
she is not sure. 
states that the last page looks like her handwriting, all of the 
notes on this page. She recognizes the way she writes her "P", "N" and "7". 
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is shown the message pads with sticky note book $3 (31E-mm-
108062 1B1-2AC)*** 
recognizes MANUELA and states he worked in EPSTEIN's New York 
office. 
recognizes GLEN DUBIN and states he is the husband of EVA ANDERSON 
(the former girlfriend of EPSTEIN). 
recognizes DR HENRY GERETCKI. 
states he owns an island in 
the British Virgin Islands and 
JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 
visited this island with EPSTEIN and 
recognizes her handwriting on a message on 1/7/05. She recognizes 
the number "7" and that its singed by 
stating "that's me". 
recognizes the message on 1/8/05 signed IIII stating "that's me...this 
entire page is from me" down to 1/9/05. 
recognizes the next page to be her handwriting starting with the 
message on 1/9/05 from 
states the rest of the notes after 
are also her handwriting. 
States 
had a sister. 
the next page to be her handwriting starting with the message on 
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states all notes on this page are her 
states all of the messages on the next page are her handwriting 
starting at 1/10/05 from JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 
states all of the message on the next page starting at 1/10/05 from 
JEAN LUC BRUNEL are her handwriting. 
states the next page the second message on 1/11/05 from MAXWELL that 
took that messages. 
states the next 2 messages on that page 
are from her as well. 
states the first 2 messages on the next page were taken by her 
starting at 1/20/05 from MAXWELL. 
states the next page starting at 1/24/05 the top 2 messages were 
taken by her. 
states the next page all of the messages were taken by her. The 
date on the second message is 1/24/05. 
states on the next page that messages 1,2 and 4 are her 
handwriting. She states message i3 is likely her handwriting as well. 
states the next page starting at 1/26/05 that all of these messages 
were taken by her. 
states the next and last page of this book are all messages taken by 
her. This page starts at 1/26/05. 
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is shown the black binder marked "Book 10" (50D-NY-3027571-
is shown the black binder marked "Book 10" and asked to just look at 
the outside of it. 
states that this is one of the binders that was 
at MAXWELL's house with different pictures inside of them. The photos are 
of travel with EPSTEIN or photos of naked girls or women or in their 
underwear. They were categorized. These books were made at 
request 
thinks. 
does not recall the color or the stickers 
on the outside but she remembers the plastic sleeves with CD's and 
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thumbnails of the pictures. She does not recall how the outside was labeled 
with stickers or not. On the spine of the binder she recognizes stickers 
marked ZORO (EPSTEIN's ranch, could be photos from his trip), 
) and 
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is shown two black binders marked "Book 11" 6 "Book 18" (SOD-
NY-3027571-1219)*** 
is shown the black binders marked "Book 11" 5 "Book 18" and asked to 
just look at the outside of them. 
states these are large office 
binders with plastic sleeves. On the spine of the binder she recognizes 
stickers marked 
PB GIRLS (Palm Beach), 727 (one of his planes), IIII 
III and 
(could be 
but she is 
not sure). 
recognizes that these binders could have been kept in MAXWELL's 
house where she worked. They should have been inside of her office inside 
of the house. The office had two rooms in it. The first room had about 3 
desks for either-, 
and MAXWELL. The second room was 
smaller and had a large printer/copier inside of it. It was a professional 
photo printer. There were also cabinets inside of this room. These binders 
would have been store in one of these cabinets. There were multiple shelves 
containing binders. 
MAXWELL would come into the office and sit at her desk. MAXWELL would print 
sometimes to put these photos in EPSTEIN's homes and to document EPSTEIN's 
life. 
would photograph the women in nude poses at EPSTEIN's 
request. 
did it to 
. EPSTEIN said it was ok and 
thought maybe it was for Victoria's Secret. 
is asked the difference between the professional masseuses and the 
not professional masseuses coming to the houses. 
states the professional ones carried themselves different and gave 
massages to 
and others in the house. 
The not professional masseuses appeared to be young. In the moment 
didn't think of age. Sitting here today 
thinks they appeared to be 
underage because of their style of dressing (jeans and t-shirt), they were 
casual, their immature behavior, not professional manor, their physical 
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appearance was that of a teenager. 
would have to escort them 
upstairs. 
visual observations and feeling that someone is younger 
than her. On one occasion 
asked 
for a tutor for 
for her 
SAT's. 
told a story once of her speeding and her parents having to 
come pick her up and she couldn't drive anymore after that. 
saw 
lots of girls face to face. 
thinks they were 16-19, 19 and 20. 
was about 21-22 years old and they felt younger than her. Over time 
can now analyze that they were underage. 
discussed a conversation with EPSTEIN the first time that she met 
him at his house for dinner. EPSTEIN asks 
how old she is and if she 
is 18 and he probed it further that she was over 18. 
was surprised 
because she was married. 
EPSTEIN presented himself to everyone like he wouldn't cross the line. 
had the impression that EPSTEIN didn't want anyone under 19 but he 
didn't say that. 
said once that if someone lied to him about their 
age it wouldn't matter because he would still be in trouble. 
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