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, date of birth 
pursuant to a proffer agreement at 
Florida. Present for the interview was 
along with AUSA 
III, AUSA-
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individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided the following 
information: 
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(DOB) 
was interviewed 
west Palm Beach, 
attorney 
and Special Agent 
spoke about two messages she recalled writing down. One of which 
had identifier SA03008 on the message pad dated 4/1/05. This message was 
from JEAN LUC BRUNEL and read, He has a teacher for you to teach you how to 
speak Russian. She is 2x8 years old not blonde. Lessons are free and you can 
have let today if you call.' 
knew this to mean it referenced a 
teenage girl. 
wrote this message. GHISLAINE MAXWELL was in the 
house and stated, "Oh, this is a funny message". Either MAXWELL made 
rewrite it or MAXWELL rewrote it herself. The message meant that 
there was a potential teenage girl for EPSTEIN to meet. 
The other message had identifier SA01446 on the message pad dated 
2/28/05. This message referenced school. 
remembered taking this 
call. 
did not know the name, but knew the call was in reference to 
scheduling a massage. 
would have used the initial lir' when initialing her name back 
then. 
saw on Twitter that ALAN DERSHOWIII stated that he was with his 
wife and kids when he was at EPSTEIN's home. 
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was alone in the house with no wife and no kid, when he received a massage. 
was shown a series of copies of messages and asked about her 
recollection of each, all of which are attached in a 1A. 
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On this page, "AR" initials are written. 
advised those initials 
could have been ALFRED RODRIGUEZ. 
recalled that he had message 
books in his room when he left. 
took them from the room. 
MESSAGES - Page 2 
and 
saw them; 
did not recognize the handwriting of these messages. 
did 
know 
Pr 
, known to law enforcement as 
lived in New 
York and shared an apartment with 
did not know 
well. 
thought that 
had been volunteering building a 
house in Costa Rica or something similar. In the New York residence, there 
was a gift left from 
; it was a female picture of her bottom. 
abruptly left. 
had heard stories that she was throwing up, had an 
eating disorder, and she had lied. 
traveled to Puerto Rico because 
was pregnant and 
was helping 
met 
older sister 
known to law enforcement as 
on 
EPSTEIN's island. 
thought 
was of age. 
did not have 
much interaction with 
recognized 
in the news recently. 
MESSAGES - Page 3 
recognized the name 
EPSTEIN came downstairs with 
thought 
was present. 
recalled 
telling a story of driving fast and being pulled over by the police and her 
dad had to get her. 
MESSAGES - Page 4 
The upper left message, with the name 
on it, 
thought may 
have been written by 
had "loopy" handwriting. In reference 
to the message with MARK EPSTEIN on it, at the time EPSTEIN had a 
disagreement with his brother about a hospital bill or something similar. 
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recognized the name "DARREN", known to law enforcement as DARREN 
INDYKE, as one of EPSTEIN's attorneys in New York. 
recognized the 
name ' 
' and stated that it could be 
or a different 
flew on EPSTEIN's plane from New York to Palm Beach. The 
other 
had a neck injury. 
MESSAGES - Page 6 
did not recognize the names on these messages. 
MESSAGES - Page 7 
recognized the name ' 
and thought it could be 
recruited girls in New York. 
traveled 
with JEAN LUC BRUNEL to Russia. 
shared an apartment with 
who had stated that she was helping 
find girls. 
talked about HENRY JARECKI as someone EPSTEIN thought of as a 
friend. 
heard that he had a girlfriend named " 
saw a picture online of JARECKI with 
and 
MESSAGES - Page 8 
The messages are titled "Mr. Epstein". The house staff was more formal. 
Everyone in his personal life referred to EPSTEIN as "Jeffrey". 
MESSAGES - Page 9 
The message with ' 
' on it, 
thought was in reference to 
remembered " 
did not remember 
if 
had a girl with her or not. 
originally thought the 
messages were written by 
but on closer look did not think it was her 
because the number "7" in the messages was written in a very European way. 
MESSAGES - Page 10 
Message pad with "Jeffrey E. Epstein" on it. EPSTEIN had these notepads 
with his name on them throughout all of his different residences. These 
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notepads were kept stored in New York. MAXWELL had notepads with her name 
on them as well. There were also notepads with "Little St. James" or 
"Little St. Jeff" on them. The name " 
' on the notepad could have been 
a girl who massaged EPSTEIN. 
remembered 
wanting to speak to 
EPSTEIN about college. 
MESSAGES - Page 11 
thought the writing of these messages could have been hers. 
would leave messages in the kitchen for him and/or the transitional 
pantry area. 
MESSAGES - Page 12 
recognized these messages as her own handwriting. 
was 
told to confirm appointments. IIII 
with EPSTEIN. 
and 
whoever was traveling with EPSTEIN. 
MESSAGES - Page 13 
was an individual who traveled 
gave messages to 
did not recognize the handwriting of these messages. 
MESSAGES - Page 14 
or 
recognized the name " 
" as the girl who was pregnant. 
recognized the name 
' as the girl that had a neck 
injury who also traveled from New York to Palm Beach. 
MESSAGES - Page 15 
recognized these messages as her handwriting. 
was either 
confirming the massage appointments or this was a to-do list on who to call. 
MESSAGES - Page 16 
did not recognize the handwriting, but did state that she felt it 
was someone with a European background due to the way the number 7 was 
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Both EPSTEIN and NAXWELL's stationary was in different places throughout 
the houses. MAXWELL's stationary was by a large desk that she used or was 
in an area near the computer. 
When in New York preparing to travel to Palm Beach, 
would be the 
one who would primarily call to schedule massages. 
gave 
a 
list of things to do. EPSTEIN wanted 
to confirm the night before or 
the morning of a scheduled massage. EPSTEIN would be in front of the 
computer in Palm Beach or his island when he gave 
a list of things 
to do and people to call. Sometimes EPSTEIN would let 
sit on 
meetings and LESLEY GROFF would be there in New York. 
was trained on how to make calls from 
reported 
directly to 
gave 
a list on traveling to Palm Beach 
and pieces of paper to confirm massage appointments. 
kept papers in 
the desk she used but later they were gone. 
gotten rid of them. 
her SAT. 
thought 
had 
recalled a girl named IIII who EPSTEIN wanted to find help for 
tasked 
for baby purchases for 
would 
call a person and ask about someone else to massage EPSTEIN. 
thought she recalled asking this person about a specific name of someone 
else. 
did not remember ever asking if they knew other girls. 
was always told who to call or who to ask about. 
remembered 
, known to law enforcement as 
would come with other girls, and would stay in the kitchen or 
downstairs while the other girl would massage. 
remembered 
with other girls, but did not remember specifics. 
did not remember specific examples but thought she saw payments. 
EPSTEIN grabbed cash and went upstairs during massage sessions. There were 
piles of $100 dollar bills. Money was put back in a duffel bag. In Palm 
Beach and on the island, the duffel bag was kept by EPSTEIN's desk. In Palm 
Beach, the desk was in the living room near the bookshelf. EPSTEIN had a 
cabana desk. 
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was given $1000 in petty cash. 
had to type up a report 
to account for it. 
then gave this report to the accountant. 
had a feeling that she had knowledge that both girls, the one who 
brought the girl and the one who gave the massage, were both paid. 
did not remember exactly though. 
recalled there were two girls named IIII, one in Palm Beach and 
one in Florida. The IIII in Palm Beach stayed around more. IIII and a girl 
named 
would often stay behind and chat. IIII brought another 
friend, who 
thought was named 
. This friend was into 
photography and brought a flower picture. IIII talked with DAVID 
COPPERFIELD once. IIII would chat with EPSTEIN. 
, and 
EPSTEIN would also be in the kitchen. IIII was trying to get into college 
in using a SAT tutor. When 
was working in the New York office in 
MAXWELL's townhouse, 
was told to look into it getting IIII a tutor. 
needed to buy books for IIII or her friend and ship them. The books 
did not arrive in time and EPSTEIN became really upset with 
. When 
was on the island, there was a stationary computer she used and saw 
a quick glance of the Palm Beach 
social media. 
EPSTEIN gave books to 
. These books included Women are from 
Venus, Men are from Mars, Stocks for Dummies, and a book about a woman's 
cycle and body. 
gave 
a book called Story of Old. 
recalled being in a BARNES AND NOBLE with EPSTEIN in New York and Palm 
Beach. 
could have picked books up when ordering. 
In Palm Beach, when girls stayed and talked, they also received 
adjustments from a female chiropractor. 
In New York, 
remembered a girl named 
known to law 
enforcement as 
who was a model with a good agency. 
showed 
shoes she received from EPSTEIN as a gift. 
would come 
and see EPSTEIN. 
thought 
was a 
model around 17 years 
old. 
traveled to New Mexico and Palm Beach. 
recalled a time where LARRY SUMMERS was visiting at the time in 
EPSTEIN's New York house. There was a very long meeting with EPSTEIN in the 
upstairs living room. 
was helping serve drinks and food. 
recalled being in EPSTEIN's New York house in the waiting room, which was to 
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the left when entering the house, when 
came in. 
was 
dressed as though she had come from an event. 
told 
that 
she was looking for girls for EPSTEIN. 
also helped find a chef and 
said they found pornography or something similar. 
recalled a time where PRINCE ANDREW had breakfast with EPSTEIN. 
There was a young ballerina dancer that curtsied when EPSTEIN introduced her 
to PRINCE ANDREW. 
thought this girl was introduced by 
, but 
was not sure. 
had a sexual encounter with EPSTEIN and 
was 
going to the GYN and the GYN asked about sexual partners. In the car, 
told EPSTEIN and 
disclose. 
Jeffrey has". 
and told 
that she had to 
said something like, "What about all of the girls that 
In New York, 
was always with EPSTEIN. New York was 
home 
base. Palm Beach was 
home base. 
had a studio apartment 
at 301 East 66th Street. Pilots also stayed at this location and 
had an apartment at this location as well. 
did not recall having meals together with EPSTEIN and others in 
Palm Beach. While on the island, things were more scheduled and meals were 
shared together. EPSTEIN would snack as opposed to sit down for meals. In 
New York, they ate out more and when it was around six or seven in the 
evening she would go home to her apartment. In Palm Beach, 
stayed 
in EPSTEIN's house on the second floor. 
stayed above the garage 
towards the front of the street. Occasionally, 
stayed in this room 
too. 
took photographs of 
cataloged all the photographs 
and kept them in MAXWELL's townhouse where they worked. There was a Mac 
computer with a large printer. 
binders to organize the photographs. There were a lot of nude photographs 
of women posing in each of his houses. 
thought that she had a 
camera because she remembered taking photographs of EPSTEIN's 
and EPSTEIN playing chess. 
remembered she and 
taking photos at the pool, but did not remember who took the photos. 
did not remember taking nude photographs. 
had a laptop. 
had large 
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met MAXWELL because EPSTEIN tasked 
to buy toiletries for 
guests staying at the 301 66th Street location. 
came to learn that 
MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's former girlfriend. MAXWELL bought furniture around 
the world for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN delivered the news of MAXWELL's father's 
death. MAXWELL gave instruction to house managers. 
remembered 
seeing MAXWELL in Palm Beach and on the island, but saw her a lot more in 
New York. In Palm Beach, EPSTEIN had a large bedroom with two bathrooms. 
MAXWELL had her belongings in his houses and closets. MAXWELL told 
to do things and tasks. 
did not like MAXWELL and tried to avoid 
her. MAXWELL was not a nice person. MAXWELL always had the house manager 
in tears. 
thought the house manager was from the Philippines and 
had twins or 
kids. 
and 
worked for MAXWELL. 
was an assistant who worked at the house and 
worked out of the 
New York office. There was a setup of three desks at the office. 
seemed close with MAXWELL. EPSTEIN gifted 
with a fur coat that was 
kept at MAXWELL's house. 
worked for EPSTEIN. 
worked for 
with EPSTEIN as her overall boss. 
MAXWELL participated in threesomes when EPSTEIN was her boyfriend. 
recalled a time in New Mexico where she traveled to a spa and 
MAXWELL said, "Oh if you find a pretty girl, get her number and she can give 
a massage to EPSTEIN". MAXWELL was a very strong person. 
recalled 
a time where she traveled to Florida and her phone was not working. 
called 
to connect her to MAXWELL. 
had to talk to 
about 
MAXWELL being upset because 
took up MAXWELL's assistant's time. 
In Palm Beach, 
called and scheduled massage appointments for 
EPSTEIN. This seemed like a regular activity. In New York, GROFF scheduled 
massage appointments; 
did not schedule in New York. EPSTEIN 
received massages twice a day everyday. 
would also have to schedule 
and confirm massage appointments. EPSTEIN would tell them that MAXWELL 
could get something if they could not because MAXWELL was persuasive. 
came across as condescending to 
. EPSTEIN would tell 
how ungrateful she was in not saying thank you. EPSTEIN said 
something similar to 
when she received a haircut and did not say thank 
you to EPSTEIN. 
was told to tell 
to pack up and leave the 
apartment. 
told EPSTEIN that she would never get an abortion and 
EPSTEIN asked what if the baby had Down Syndrome or she was raped. EPSTEIN 
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liked to play mind games. On the island, 
was sick with a fever, 
when EPSTEIN came in the room and said, "Wake up lazy fuck". On one of 
days off, EPSTEIN left her a message and he was very upset. 
EPSTEIN made her sit on the floor and do a pedicure. EPSTEIN obsessed about 
putting on his eye cream; if she missed a day he would get upset. 
There was a time on the island where EPSTEIN said that despite the guy being 
married, he was gay. EPSTEIN said this gentleman needed to spend more time 
with 
and 
. This man's wife was DIANE VON FURSTENBERG. 
EPSTEIN called 
a Polish Nazi. 
On the island and in New Mexico, along with one time in Palm Beach, 
would have to give a massage and it would lead to sexual contact 
with EPSTEIN. Another girl, 
, also gave massages. 
recalled a time where 
downstairs. EPSTEIN asked 
room topless. 
touched 
the house manager, asked her to come 
to run him a bath. 
was in the 
There was a time where 
was asked to travel to Boston. EPSTEIN 
often went to HARVARD. 
thought the trip there was a short flight on 
his Gulfstream. The bed was made. When there was nudity and a sexual 
encounter, EPSTEIN wanted to have sex and if 
said no, he stopped. 
Other times, 
was involved in the sexual encounters and 
initiated them. The sexual encounters were predominantly associated with 
massages. In 
mind she did not want to do it but went along with 
it. There was a very strange situation that happened on the plane when 
EPSTEIN grabbed 
by the neck and shook her hard. 
did not 
remember EPSTEIN being forceful with the sexual encounters. 
was 
20/21 years old and stated that it was consensual. EPSTEIN sometimes told 
that she had massaging duty. 
was confused that this was 
part of her role. 
did not see 
give massages. 
EPSTEIN flew 
parents in as a surprise. 
was not happy 
with this because he had access to her parents. At a prior time, EPSTEIN 
and 
talked about her 
background and EPSTEIN had said the last 
name of her grandmother. 
knew at this point he had done research on 
her family and background. 
A Department of State Agent 
flew on EPSTEIN's plane and asked 
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who all of the girls were. EPSTEIN told 
that she should ask IIII 
about her immigration status. EPSTEIN also told her to talk to INDYKE, but 
INDYKE could not help. 
EPSTEIN first told 
that she had massage duty when they were on 
his island together. 
could not recall how it progressed to sexual 
contact. 
felt the sexual encounter with 
was planned. 
initiated the contact with EPSTEIN and 
had 
approximately five encounters with the two of them together. EPSTEIN joked 
that 
was his gay girlfriend. There was one time where EPSTEIN was 
not present and 
initiated sexual contact. 
gave 
a massage. 
also gave a massage to a girl who 
flew into the island. 
did not know this girl's name. 
met 
this girl at St. Barts, where this girl was a sales associate. This girl 
did not look underage to 
flew this girl in. 
talked about a conversation with EPSTEIN in which he talked with 
her about keeping men happy. 
favors. 
did not respond. 
took this as flirting or giving sexual 
EPSTEIN introduced the DUBINS to 
his cousin to them and to other people. When 
"cousin" in slang, it meant prostitute. 
felt that EPSTEIN was propositioning her. 
EPSTEIN introduced 
looked up the word 
was upset by this. She 
There was a time where they flew into Aspen and LES WEXNER and other 
girls went shopping. They gestured to 
and she thought they were 
talking about her. 
as 
FARKAS introduced a Sultan from Dubai to EPSTEIN. 
was 
there on the phone with 
and EPSTEIN telling her what to say. 
lived in New York. EPSTEIN was telling her not to think about it too long. 
They were going to the hotel to meet up. This was in New York. They were 
all in the car with IIII driving. 
thought that she had met 
and saw her in New York. 
described 
as Middle Eastern. 
talked about a time when EPSTEIN, 
and 
with her dog, 
flew into Miami. 
met them at a meeting point and was asked to 
entertain 
while EPSTEIN and 
went somewhere else. They were all 
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standing in front of a building. EPSTEIN had helped 
with her Soho 
house in Miami Beach. EPSTEIN told 
that she could be a real estate 
agent. EPSTEIN had 
that she had to drive to meet someone in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN told 
that something would happen with her visa, but 
did not 
remember everything about this. 
thought something had happened to 
EPSTEIN's detriment. 
gave 
the number of the person she was 
supposed to meet. 
was rushing there. JANUSZ BANASIAK and another 
gentleman, PAUL, were there. They were grabbing computers and notebooks. 
was to follow up with the gentleman on when to get the items back. 
They were to be given to someone named 
and to be returned 
when he was done with them. 
gave the computers and notebooks to 
BANASIAK found more books. 
called PAUL or he was still there 
and she gave them to him. 
thought that the instruction came from 
because she gave 
the phone number. 
thought they then 
traveled on to the island. 
meet up with a developer/architect. 
told 
After this, 
asked 
bring them back from the island. 
locations and huts. 
brought these items back from the island and to 
New York and gave them to 
Sometimes when 
traveled to the 
island she went with EPSTEIN and other times she flew from Miami to Puerto 
Rico to the Virgin Islands. There was a driver that took her from the 
marina by boat. 
gave the books to 
in MAXWELL's house. There 
was a printout of a more recent copy. 
had told 
to shred it 
in MAXWELL's house. 
recalled having a feeling that it was all 
strange. 
to gather books on the island and to 
reminded 
to go in all the 
recalled in EPSTEIN's duffel bag he kept a tape recorder. 
saw it on and turned it off. In the beginning of 2006, 
saw 
EPSTEIN reach for the tape recorder and slip it into his bathrobe. 
The initial promise EPSTEIN made to 
was for her to work for him, 
learn things like stocks and the business world. Working for EPSTEIN was 
stressful for 
the verbal assaults grew and she never felt good 
working for him. 
told 
that she was resigning. 
did 
not take her seriously. At the time, EPSTEIN's accountant resigned, and she 
told EPSTEIN that she had resigned too. 
did not think EPSTEIN took 
her seriously either. 
received calls from them in 2006. 
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traveled to Paris with them, where 
met with a former boyfriend. 
then traveled to 
EPSTEIN asked her to go to Dubai but she 
did not go. EPSTEIN told her they did not need passports, which 
thought was strange. 
recalled a Cuba trip where 
kissed FIDEL CASTRO's cheek. 
was called in by INDYKE, who told her that if she ever needed 
help to contact him and never talk to the police. 
recalled feeling 
that something was off. 
EPSTEIN had a tape recorder and 
recalled him asking if she ever 
beat someone up. EPSTEIN also said to her, "Oh you don't enjoy fooling 
around with 
and me". 
recalled when EPSTEIN initiated the sexual encounters, telling 
her that this is what her job was all along. 
felt that once EPSTEIN 
flipped, she knew that she could not scream or say no. 
knew that 
EPSTEIN had a gun by the bed. 
recalled feeling that she had no 
where to go because she was on the island. 
knew EPSTEIN had guns. 
EPSTEIN gave 
a gun once for safety purposes. 
time where the gun was taken. 
remembered the 
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