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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
OFFICIAL RECORD 
Datcofentry 
 
02/05/202'
, date of birth 
was interviewed over video 
conference. Present on the video call was 
attorney 
Also present on the call was Assistant United States Attorneys 
III, and IIII 
along with Detective 
and Special Agent 
After being advised of the identity 
of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided the following information: 
grew up in South Florida, where he attended some college. At the 
time of this interview, 
worked as a telemarketer and lived in 
Florida. 
met JEFFREY EPSTEIN once. 
went with his girlfriend at the 
time, 
, to EPSTEIN's home in Palm Beach. 
thought 
this may have been around 2002 when he was a senior in high school. 
EPSTEIN pulled up to the house in a convertible. 
recalled 
EPSTEIN put the hood down. 
described EPSTEIN as "flashy". 
and 
shared a phone. 
would answer the call 
sometimes when EPSTEIN and 
called. 
met 
in approximately 2001/2002 when he was 17 years old 
and a senior in high school. 
met EPSTEIN through 
went to school with 
at 
was either a junior or senior when 
met her. 
had a 
boyfriend, 
and 
would smoke pot 
together. 
had known 
for approximately 3-5 months at the 
time. 
was asked if his girlfriend would like to make money. When 
asked how much, he was told $200. 
told 
that she 
would have to massage an old guy. 
took 
to EPSTEIN's home. 
and 
were at 
and 
' apartment. 
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and 
were having a conversation about EPSTEIN. 
said EPSTEIN knew famous people then showed a picture and asked 
if he 
knew who was in the photo. 
told 
that PRINCE ANDREW was in 
the photo. 
When 
and 
were in the car with 
and 
EPSTEIN came up in conversation. 
had told 
that EPSTEIN was a little pervert and said that 
and 
might have to massage EPSTEIN topless. 
told 
this when they were sitting in the car. 
told 
that 
EPSTEIN always wanted girls and asked if 
knew any that would want 
to go. 
went to EPSTEIN's home two to three times a week. EPSTEIN told 
that she needed to start bringing friends. 
lived in a 
trailer park so he knew girls who needed money. 
brought girls to 
EPSTEIN. 
When 
together. 
and 
spent time 
would hang out together while 
did not know what • 
with 
and 
and 
hung out 
and 
talked about. 
and 
recalled that 
was driving the first time he, 
and 
all went to EPSTEIN's home. EPSTEIN's house was at 
the end of El Brillo Way. They parked in front. 
and 
went 
up the driveway while 
and 
stayed in the car and got high. 
asked 
if 
was too young because she was not yet 18. 
had said that EPSTEIN was helping her get through school and could 
help 
as well. 
and 
were paid $200 cash in hundred 
dollar bills. 
made extra money because they bought extra drugs. 
asked 
if she could go back to EPSTEIN's home and 
told her yes. Approximately a week or two later, EPSTEIN contacted 
to get in touch with 
dealt with a girl named 
knew her name because he 
and 
shared a phone and he had answered. 
would tell 
that EPSTEIN wanted 
to come out to the house. 
did 
not meet 
but thought he did see her in the driveway. 
described 
as a "good looking 
girl". 
was professional when she 
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called. 
would ask 
if 
was available or if she could 
bring someone with her. 
called approximately one to two times a 
week. 
also recalled another woman, who was European, who called for 
This woman had an accent that was not British. 
her accent may have been French. 
did not meet this woman. 
thought 
They would pay for the taxi and then 
would get an extra $20 for 
the cab back home. 
would go with 
and sit, hang out, and 
smoke pot. 
would wait about an hour for 
When 
came out of the house, she always had money with her. 
received $200 for a while, then when she brought girls she started 
receiving $300. 
thought 
brought the following girls: 
• 
LAST NAME UNKNOWN, who had red hair but is now deceased 
• Possibly some friends 
knew before she dated 
also thought 
brought 
whose last name he did not 
recall, not 
but a different 
also recalled 
bringing 
, whose last name he did not recall. 
recalled 
parents calling parents and things tumbled down from there. 
and 
all got lawyers when EPSTEIN was arrested. Lawsuits 
were settled and the girls received money. 
sister, 
who was 19 years old, went to EPSTEIN's home. 
There was a lot of talk about it because 
could not go there anymore 
because she was too old. 
told 
that EPSTEIN had told her 
was not allowed back. 
stopped going to EPSTEIN's home in approximately 
and 
was born 
and 
had stopped going to 
EPSTEIN's home when she was pregnant. 
and 
moved away 
together. 
thought 
had started seeing EPSTEIN when she was 
around 15 years old and stopped seeing EPSTEIN when she was 16 going on 17 
years old. 
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was arrested 
in or around 2008 and was put in 
the stockade. EPSTEIN was also in the stockade at this time. EPSTEIN saw 
and called him over to the fence. EPSTEIN asked 
if 
remembered him and asked if his lawyers could contact 
EPSTEIN gave 
his lawyers' card. 
thought this was regarding a 
lawsuit some of the girls had brought at the time. 
later met with 
EPSTEIN's lawyers at a "Darth Vader building" but did not really say 
anything. 
Sometimes, 
interacted with the landscapers at EPSTEIN's home. 
recalled 
coming out of EPSTEIN's home and telling him she 
felt uncomfortable. When 
asked her what she meant, 
told him 
there was another girl there and whenever she was there she wanted 
to do things. 
came to find out this was GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 
had described MAXWELL to 
as someone who had black hair and 
was British. 
also described MAXWELL as an aggressive, rude, and 
nasty woman. 
remembered 
mentioning the name "MAXWELL". 
did not want to be there when MAXWELL was there. 
MAXWELL was supposed to be a massage therapist and/or teacher. MAXWELL 
was friends with EPSTEIN. MAXWELL was supposed to show 
what 
EPSTEIN liked. A few times MAXWELL was at EPSTEIN's home and 
was 
uncomfortable. 
recalled 
saying something like, "this woman 
is supposed to be teaching me is just mean/rude". 
knew 
was 
extremely bothered by MAXWELL. MAXWELL was supposed to be teaching 
how to massage EPSTEIN. 
had described 
to 
as someone he would like. 
Sometimes when 
went to EPSTEIN's home, she would come out with 
$400-$500. This was when 
would have brought a girl. 
went 
up to the room with her girlfriends. 
was "kinda seeing" 
told 
that 
was 
not just doing what 
thought and told him it was not just massages 
that she was doing. When 
asked 
about it, she told him that 
EPSTEIN wanted "handjobs" but that she did not do that and that's why she 
brought girls. 
told 
that EPSTEIN had a "weird shaped penis" 
with a "peehole on the side of his dick". 
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The money would be sitting there on the table and EPSTEIN would excuse 
himself to clean up. 
did not know if 
massaged anyone else. 
For 
birthday, EPSTEIN asked her what she wanted. EPSTEIN 
gave 
tickets to see INCUBUS. EPSTEIN had asked 
who her 
favorite singer was and she told him MICHAEL JACKSON. EPSTEIN had JACKSON 
call 
on her birthday. 
got off the phone and told 
it was JACKSON who called. 
and 
were living together 
time with her mother. This was when they were living in 
together. 
EPSTEIN sent 
a "cheesy B movie" and lingerie. 
recalled 
seeing the packaging on the lingerie saying it was from Paris. 
When 
said that was strange, 
told 
that EPSTEIN wanted 
her to model it for 
When 
would call, she would say something like, "This is 
from 
Jeffrey's...is she available...is anyone coming with her...does she need a 
ride". Sometimes 
coming on a certain day. 
France, and Florida. 
would hear that EPSTEIN was not in town but was 
knew EPSTEIN had places in New York, 
had told him that EPSTEIN knew the New York 
area. 
was originally from New York. 
When 
left, 
started going to EPSTEIN's home more. 
asked 
where 
had gone, and he was told that EPSTEIN had sent 
her to 
never came back. If 
had wanted to pursue what 
did, EPSTEIN and 
had told her they 
would help 
with whatever she wanted to study. 
did not talk to people about it. 
did not talk to the press 
or law enforcement. 
went from seeing EPSTEIN to working in prostitution. In or 
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two to three times a week. 
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around 2005 when 
and 
son was around 
old, 
left. 
told 
that when she was in the room with EPSTEIN other 
girls gave EPSTEIN "handjobs and blowjobs". 
, and 
would all throw each other under the bus saying it was the other girl who 
was engaging in sex acts with EPSTEIN. 
was 
boyfriend so 
she was not going to tell him what was going on. 
knew more was going 
on. 
had been told that 
had sex with EPSTEIN. 
told 
that EPSTEIN and 
knew 
was underage 
because they were trying to help her with school. They wanted to put 
in school and help her with massage therapy. 
was not 
going to school at this time as she had dropped out when she was 13 years 
old. 
The first time 
went to EPSTEIN's home, 
was living 
across the street from 
. They lived on 
in West Palm 
Beach. They moved after they dated for a bit. 
stopped going to 
school and lived with 
, her mother, and her brothers. They lived in 
hotels. They moved to 
and 
did not have money at the time. 
mother 
was on drugs. 
was working at Wendy's and he would get around $250 
for working for two weeks. The possibility of 
making $200 an hour 
was a lot. When 
asked 
if she should do it, he told her that 
was doing it and she would not steer 
wrong. They would 
spend the money on alcohol and drugs, including weed, pills, ecstasy. 
said it was "play money". 
did not know if pictures were taken of 
did not 
think 
had a passport. 
went with 
one to two times, then on maybe the second 
time she went 
told 
that she was going to give EPSTEIN her 
direct. Approximately a month later, 
went to EPSTEIN's home every week, approximately 
became pregnant and she and 
moved away 
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