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When asked how 
felt about the situation as a 
whole, she responded that it has affected her life greatly. 
had a false sense of love at the time. 
felt that 
they (JEFFREY EPSTEIN and GHISLAINE MAXWELL) seemed to be 
the only people who cared about her. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL 
seemed to be 
one. In her early 20's, 
affected her. 
family since she felt she did not have 
realized how the abuse had 
personal and professional relationships 
were affected and her anxiety and depression has come in 
waves. 
ex-boyfriend 
) told her 
that he was happy to help because "it messed up our 
relationship for seven years". 
has been affected in a 
multitude of ways including having trust issues, opening up, 
love and values in relationships. 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL joked about 
mother not 
being smart and how her mother did not care about her and 
was not a good mother. 
believed them; EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL showed her how life worked. EPSTEIN thought 
was grateful for how he helped her in life. 
stated, "When you get beaten into submission, 
sometimes you just start to believe that is how life is." 
saw everyone else around EPSTEIN and MAXWELL doing the 
same thing. 
felt that she held a sexual value to them, but she 
also felt that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL liked and cared about her. 
Both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL would make her feel that she had 
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to be grateful for what they did for her, but mostly it was 
EPSTEIN who let 
know that she needed to be grateful 
for all that he had done for her, including the lessons for which 
he had paid for -
Over time, 
realized the relationship was not what 
she thought it was. 
"crazy" boyfriend had eventually 
helped her realize that the situation was not right. This was 
approximately in 2002. 
DARREN INDYKE, EPSTEIN's lawyer, called 
and 
said that she owed $10,000 for the apartment in New York that 
her mother was subletting. 
boyfriend at the time told 
her to ignore EPSTEIN. 
boyfriend thought that 
EPSTEIN was her godfather. 
When 
learned about EPSTEIN's initial arrest (in 
the mid-2000s) 
felt alone and horrible. It was at that 
time that 
learned there had been a ton of girls 
involved. 
felt guilty that she had not said anything. 
Around this time, 
had a conversation with her sister 
( 
) about EPSTEIN. 
may have called 
her when it was on the news. 
told 
that 
felt she should have known. 
was angry. 
was unsure if 
asked her questions about it 
but 
wanted 
to do something about it. 
felt at the time that it would have been a pointless 
uphill battle. This conversation with her sister helped 
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to understand how 
was abused — it gave 
a 
better understanding about the whole situation. 
has been affected greatly, as has her relationships 
and her relationships with her family. 
still has to work 
through things. 
relationship with her mother has 
been affected greatly and has gotten worse over the years. 
Now that 
has her own children, her relationship with 
her mother has become worse. 
thought that her 
mother was damaged and wondered if her mother had been 
abused herself. 
When 
was a child, 
felt that her mother 
wanted her children to be special and great. 
mother 
pushed the idea on 
and her siblings sometimes. 
was not sure if all of her siblings got into showbiz 
because their mother wanted them to be famous. 
father was famous in Sweden. 
mother wanted her 
children to be special and famous for her. This may have 
affected how 
mother viewed EPSTEIN. 
mother told her to always be grateful to EPSTEIN and that 
EPSTEIN wanted to hand out with her for a reason. 
As EPSTEIN's conduct became worse, in terms of the 
sexual abuse on 
did not have a sense that 
she could tell anyone. 
mother is middle Eastern 
we 
were 
to do what we were told as a woman (page 4), even if 
they are beating you. 
felt that she could not say 
anything. 
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EPSTEIN's brother reminded her recently that when 
was 13 years old their mother smacked her for telling 
her guidance counselor about her father. 
The first sexual encounter with EPSTEIN, 
completely froze. EPSTEIN went about his business afterwards 
like everything was normal. 
thought that she could not 
tell anyone; 
had to bury it. 
stated, "It was horrifying, but they normalized 
everything so it was ok." MAXWELL helped a lot with 
normalizing everything and made it seem like "this was just 
what people do". Right away MAXWELL took on a sister role to 
saying something like, "I'm like your big sister." 
MAXWELL made it all seem normal. 
MAXWELL and 
would have conversations; 
MAXWELL teased 
about boys at school. MAXWELL told 
"Once you have a guy, he is grandfathered in." 
stated this was "cheeky big sister wisdom". MAXWELL 
also took 
bra shopping. 
At first, 
thought that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were 
a couple, then she thought they were married, then she 
thought MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's assistant. MAXWELL and 
EPSTEIN's relationship was sometimes unclear. 
Some of the "grooming process" with them happened 
prior to when any sex act happened. There was bra shopping, 
going to the movies, hanging by the pool. MAXWELL was 
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topless by the pool; she made it normal. This was early on 
when 
knew MAXWELL — approximately a month of 
meeting her. The first time 
witnessed other girls, who 
were older than her, topless by the pool was when she was 14 
years old. The movie theaters where EPSTEIN and MAXWELL 
took 
was in Palm Beach or West Palm Beach; it was a 
close drive from EPSTEIN's home. They were normal movie 
theaters but not nice movie theaters. They would go to earlier 
shows, around 5:00 pm, and somewhat empty when they went. 
Sometimes other girls also went to the movies with them. 
EPSTEIN would not buy candy or popcorn; EPSTEIN was very 
careful with his diet and he pushed that on 
and others 
as well. 
knew she could not ask for candy or popcorn 
because EPSTEIN "fat shamed" people. 
could not 
recall how they bought tickets; EPSTEIN may have had the 
house manager buy the tickets ahead of time. 
had a 
memory of EPSTEIN handing out the tickets prior to them going 
into the movie theater. There were no couches in the movie 
theater. 
would not sit right next to EPSTEIN; EPSTEIN 
would be the one to decide where everyone would sit. 
The first sexual encounter occurred in the pool house. The 
next sexual encounter occurred in either the bedroom or the 
massage room. There was some period of time where the 
sexual encounters were only with EPSTEIN. After time, 
MAXWELL became involved in the sexual encounters; 
was not sure when exactly MAXWELL became involved. The 
first time MAXWELL was involved in the sexual encounters with 
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EPSTEIN and 
there were two other girls there as well; 
it was all very casual. 
recalled two women, 
and M, who would join in. In the first instance, MAXWELL 
guided it, but other girls knew the routine. Sometimes, it 
started with EPSTEIN wanting a massage then he would say, 
"You girls come with me". Sometimes the girls would make out 
with each other during these encounters. 
The average incident would be where they would go up to 
EPSTEIN's massage room. EPSTEIN would take a shower or 
would have just gotten out of the shower. EPSTEIN would be 
nude and get on the massage table face down. Some girls 
would be talking or laughing; it was very casual. Early on, they 
did not really talk to 
. 
would be on "foot 
massaging duty" on EPSTEIN. 
wanted them to ignore 
her. MAXWELL would make out with other girls; she also 
taunted other girls. MAXWELL teased other girls, giggling and 
grabbing other girls' breasts, while directing another girl to get 
on top of EPSTEIN. MAXWELL was bossy; she would tell them 
all what to do. MAXWELL felt she had a big place in there; 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were a "power couple dynamic". 
stated, "You just do what you're told". 
stated, at first, everyone just took their clothes off except the 
underwear; clothes were just thrown on the ground. Other 
girls would massage EPSTEIN while MAXWELL directed the girls 
on what to do. Sometimes, this lasted a long time; it was very 
tedious. At first, they would be talking and massaging for a 
long time. It was casual; they would be massaging for 
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approximately 30 minutes. Then, EPSTEIN decided when he 
was over just chatting; he would turn around and decide who 
he wanted to grab or have grab him or who he wanted to have 
sex with him. When 
was asked if she saw these 
encounters end in sex, hand jobs, oral sex, and EPSTEIN 
masturbating, 
said yes, all these incidents occurred. 
The older 
became, the more she saw while with 
EPSTEIN. There was a progression, which generally started with 
EPSTIEN masturbating then leading to sex observations 
eventually. This first started in Palm Beach; MAXWELL was 
present for these incidents. 
recalled an incident in 
New York that ended in full on sex; 
witnessed this. 
This incident occurred in EPSTEIN's massage room. 
, a 
blonde girl, two other girls at the end, EPSTEIN and MAXWELL 
were all present. EPSTEIN grabbed the blonde girl very 
forcefully and had sex with her; the girl did not hesitate. 
MAXWELL was there and did not stop it; she acted like it was 
normal. EPSTEIN never used protection. EPSTEIN pulled the 
girl onto him on the massage table. 
was not sure who 
the girl was. 
thought 
may have been 
present for this incident. After this incident, 
either 
went back to her room in EPSTEIN's house or was driven home; 
could not recall where she was staying. This scene 
stuck with 
so much because it was somewhat violent. 
was not sure if this was the first time she had watched 
him have sex with someone. 
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EPSTEIN had a "thing" for blondes. MAXWELL was present 
for the massaging that ended in sexual activity. It was common 
but not as frequent as time went on, the abuse became more 
directed to just 
than EPSTEIN. 
with no one else in the room other 
When 
was asked if there were times where it was 
only EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, and her in the room, 
was not 
sure. As EPSTEIN progressed incidents sexually with 
, it 
would go back and forth between just being solely with 
and going back to the group setting. 
was 
present. 
recalled that 
husband at the time 
was a 
described 
as being tall, 
thin, with nice legs, and blonde hair. 
was a professional 
massage therapist and lived in Florida. 
recalled a red 
headed girl as well. 
recalled a girl named 
, who 
felt could back up what 
had 
talked about regarding MAXWELL. 
described 
as being a model, who was holder than 
and knew 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL before she did. 
The first time 
saw MAXWELL nude was in Palm 
Beach in a massage scenario. When asked if MAXWELL made 
comments about 
body, 
was not sure if she 
had, but recalled that EPSTEIN had made comments. EPSTEIN 
took polaroid photographs of 
. EPSTEIN took 
photographs of her, telling her to face away. EPSTEIN talked 
about 
ass getting fat. 
was approximately 15 
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years old at the time. This was in Palm Beach. MAXWELL may 
have helped with this; she sided with EPSTEIN or would giggle. 
EPSTEIN hired a personal trainer for 
. 
would 
work out at EPSTEIN's Palm Beach mansion. Both MAXWELL 
and EPSTEIN made 
feel that she could not eat a lot. 
thought she went to New Mexico with EPSTEIN 
approximately three times, but was not 100% sure about the 
total number of times. 
felt that MAXWELL always 
went with her and EPSTEIN to New Mexico, while others also 
accompanied them. 
recalled EPSTEIN's brother, MARK 
EPSTEIN being going with them to New Mexico once. The first 
time 
went on EPSTEIN's private plane to New Mexico, 
it was just EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. They traveled there for a 
weekend and 
was somewhat ignored. EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL had meetings and 
was told to go hiking. 
was not sure why they took her to New Mexico; 
thought that EPSTEIN wanted to impress her. At the 
time, 
did not care nor was she impressed. EPSTEIN 
would brag about his properties; he wanted to be a mentor. 
did not recall if MAXWELL had talked up the ranch. 
While 
was living in Florida, she did not need her 
license to fly. 
would tell her mother that she wanted 
to go and her mother would let her go. The first trip EPSTEIN 
wanted 
asked 
to go in, he asked her. Ordinarily, EPSTEIN 
to go, and she would ask her mother, but 
sometimes EPSTEIN would have a few of his assistants call. 
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The first time 
flew on his private jet was to New 
York. Her first trip to New Mexico a driver picked her up at her 
house and drove 
to EPSTEIN's Palm Beach house. 
Once at his house they traveled to the airport together from 
there. 
is not sure who drove to the airport. She 
recalls that when they typically arrive at the airport they would 
drive right up to the plane. She recalls sitting in the back seat 
of the car with EPSTEIN. On at least one occasion EPSTEIN sat 
in the front of the car and was not driving, while MAXWELL sat 
in the back with her. Typically, EPSTEIN would just get out of 
the car and everyone was just expected to follow him. 
was then asked about flight records and her first 
flight on his private jet. 
thinks it was to New York, and 
several people were on this flight. 
is pretty sure that 
EPSTEIN's brother was on this flight, and maybe his mother. 
Others on the flight she didn't know. 
was then asked names of people that were on 
these flight records and if she recalls knowing them. Her 
answers were as follows: 
? —yes 
Jeff Schantz? —no 
M? —yes...she was his ex-girlfriend and they stayed friends. 
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met her a few times and is not sure if she was part of 
the massages. 
was then asked if she recalls the next private jet 
flight. She thinks that it was to New York. She thinks that the 
3rd flight may have been to New Mexico. 
was asked if she remembers flying from New York 
to New Mexico to which she answers yes. There was a couple 
other people on the plane. The chef may have come with 2 
other men possibly. 
was asked about the time that she flew to New 
Mexico with just EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, "could that have been 
from New York?". 
responds "yes". 
was asked if she remembers how she got to New 
York first. 
states she may have flown up from Florida 
to New York for the New Mexico trip. Although she is not 
totally sure of that. 
was asked about her first New Mexico trip and 
what activities she did. 
recalls there being horses 
around. She recalls going hiking. She remembers not doing too 
much and just sitting around mostly. She does not recall 
specific abuse that may have occurred. 
does no 
remember if EPSTEIN had a massage room in his New Mexico 
home but does he probably had one. 
was asked if she recalls any specific abuse that 
occurred in New Mexico and she states she is not sure. The 
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place was dark and she does not recall much details of this 
location. If there was abuse that occurred there it wouldn't 
have been a group thing, but she cannot recall anything 
specific. 
had her own room in New Mexico. New 
Mexico was the foggy of memories for 
was asked if there was ever a time when EPSTEIN 
came into her room while in New Mexico and she responds 
"no". 
was asked if she remembers how she left New 
Mexico the first weekend she stayed there. 
says no 
but on at least one trip home from New Mexico she flew 
commercially. 
had to be driven to the airport. 
would have had to be home in time for school, she 
recalls travelling all day on Sunday. 
was asked about a flight that she took on a Friday 
in 1997 from New Jersey (Teterboro) to New Mexico. She is 
asked if she remembers leaving at the end of the weekend. She 
states that there was a driver who brought her to the airport. 
In New York 
recalls that EPSTEIN had a driver who 
was originally from Tibet. Her first trip to New York was to just 
go and have fun. This may have been the trip that she went to 
see the Lion King. There were some other persons on this flight 
who may have just been "catching a ride". On this first trip to 
New York MAXWELL and EPSTEIN picked out an outfit for her 
which was comprised of penny loafers, a Ralph Lauren sweater 
and plaid pants. 
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was asked if she recalls a flight she took from 
Florida to New York on a Monday. She says that this doesn't 
stick out in her mind specifically. EPSTEIN did not typically want 
to miss school. 
is asked about a flight from New Mexico to 
Florida that she took in 2001. 
states that this is 
probably the last time she saw him. It was shortly after this 
that she had "that boyfriend". At the time she was living in Los 
Angeles. She may have had time off from work to be able to 
travel. 
would typically get a few weeks off from 
shooting for the TV show around holidays. EPSTEIN was coming 
to Los Angeles with a bunch of people and told 
she 
had to come with him on this trip. 
felt she was being 
treated as an adult that doesn't need to get involved anymore. 
They flew to New Mexico from Los Angeles on his jet, or 
perhaps a charter BJOLRIN is not sure. Then the flow from New 
Mexico to Florida. 
feels as though EPSTEIN may have 
been showing her off. They only spent about a day in New 
Mexico and then about 2 days in Florida. After this trip 
flew back to Los Angeles on her own. 
was then asked if she knows the following 
persons: 
HENRY GEREKY? —sounds familiar 
MARIA MINSKY? —no 
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was asked about a flight that she was on in May 
of 1998 from Florida to New York. She was asked if the 
following persons were on this flight: 
GLEN & EVA DUBIN? —maybe 
? —yes, I think so. 
then states that she liked 
They hung out 
and she was nice. 
thought she was so cool. MICHELLE 
was a friend o1 
and they would all sometimes go out 
drinking together. MICHELLE introduced 
to the drink 
the White Russian. 
was involved in the sexual conduct 
with EPSTEIN. MICHELLE may have worked for EPSTEIN's 
company and not sure if she was involved in the abuse. 
took orders sexually from both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. 
had very large, nice and impressive breasts that 
recalls 
seeing. This happened in either Florida or New York. 
MAXWELL tells 
she is told. 
what to do but is not exactly sure what 
is asked if MAXWELL would tell her what to do. 
thinks she may have coached or taught her what to do. 
is asked how specific were the instructions given to 
her. 
believes the instructions were given physically 
and not as much verbally. She was guided as to where on 
EPSTEIN' body she should massage. 
is asked if MAXWELL was present for the "4 
options" (masturbation, hand job, oral sex and sex) that 
EPSTEIN would do with other women in the massage room and 
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answers yes. 
is then asked if MAXWELL was 
present for when any of these "4 options" were performed on 
her and she responded "I can't remember". MAXWELL's roll 
was to normalize it all. MAXWELL wouldn't talk about the sex 
acts before or after. In the beginning 
was on the foot 
massage duty so she could watch and learn how to do all the 
other stuff. 
was asked if MAXWELL knew that EPSTEIN was 
having sex with her and she responds yes. MAXWELL was 
witness to all the instances that happened in the room. 
MAXWELL was never present when EPSTEIN had sex with 
cannot remember if MAXWELL was ever 
present for instances of oral sex or hand jobs with EPSTEIN and 
recalls that MAXWELL was present for when 
was pinching EPSTEIN's nipples while he masturbated. 
At this time EPSTEIN was touching 
on her breasts and 
her butt, although she does not recall if EPSTEIN touched her 
vagina at this time. MAXWELL may have been present when 
EPSTEIN used a vibrator on 
vagina. 
MAXWELL may have given 
a vibrator in a box for 
Christmas. 
threw it out because she was living at 
home, was in high school and was embarrassed. This happened 
while she was either living in Palm Beach or New York. 
was asked if MAXWELL ever touched or kissed her 
to which she answers "I don't think so". 
says "know 
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your audience" on why MAXWELL may have kissed other girls 
and not 
. Certain girls didn't have a problem with it as 
much as some other girls. This may have been based on their 
sexual experiences, background and willingness. 
EPSTEIN was mildly sexual with 
in front of other 
people, including MAXWELL. Maybe at most 
put her 
hand on his penis. 
MAXWELL bragged about who she dated and her 
conquests. MAXWELL was the female version of EPSTEIN. 
MAXWELL talked about her sexual interactions with other 
people but not about her sexual interactions with EPSTEIN. 
did not notice any sexual energy between EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL. They seemed to be like partners in crime. 
MAXWELL in general would be direct, although 
cannot remember specifics. 
was asked about the New Mexico trips she took 
and if she recalls and specific abuse that occurred there to 
which she answers she does not remember. MAXWELL would 
have been present for oral sex that occurred with other 
individuals, yes. 
is not sure, but its possible that 
MAXWELL was present for oral sex with EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL was present for occasions in with Florida and 
New York in which others performed oral sex on EPSTEIN. 
recalls a group massage instance that occurred at 
shutters on the beach in California. One of the girls gets upset 
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and does not want to give a massage. She cries because she 
has a boyfriend. MAXWELL was not present for this. There 
may have been another incident in which a girl got upset or was 
apprehensive about getting involved with the massages. 
met HARVEY WEINSTEIN at a golden globes party 
while with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN introduces 
to WEINSTEIN 
and states "hands off my girl". EPSTEIN and WEINSTEIN laugh. 
is asked about Interlochen, and how she turned 
14 that summer that she met EPSTEIN while attending the 
academy. She is asked is it possible that she met EPSTEIN after 
she turned 14 to which she responds yes. 
states she 
based meeting him at 13 years old because it was the summer 
and she was at summer camp. Her birthday is in August and 
she thought that it was before her birthday. 
She was still living in Florida and still 14 years old when a 
fair amount of the abuse happened to her. At some point 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN came to 
house prior to the 
abuse. While still 14 
has the interaction with the 
photographer. 
is 14 when the group massage abuse 
happens involving MAXWELL. While still 14 the pace of things 
moved fairly quickly with EPSTEIN. 
touched EPSTEIN's 
penis right after the pool house visit. It started to be expected 
that something always will happen when 
would go to 
visit EPSTEIN. MAXWELL was usually present for this in the 
beginning. 
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EPSTEIN would usually just grab 
with me" when he was going to abuse her. 
and say "come 
was asked 
if MAXWELL would ever follow her up with EPSTEIN when the 
abuse occurred. 
says probably about once. There 
were times when MAXWELL was present and EPSTEIN took 
for abuse upstairs. There were also times where 
MAXWELL told 
that EPSTEIN "wants to see you" which 
then lead to abuse. There were times when 
was 
directed to the massage room by MAXWELL when there was 
someone else already there. 
Oral sex with EPSTEIN took about a year to happen. This 
happened when they were still in Florida. 
was 18 while attending the professional children's 
school. 
The rape incident happened in New York. 
is not 
sure where she was living at the time. 
thinks she was 
staying with EPSTEIN though at the time. She was visiting him 
and recalls going back to her room after the incident. 
did have a pregnancy concerns. 
did not talk to anyone 
about this. At one time 
did not have her period for 
about 6 months so she bought a pregnancy test. EPSTEIN never 
used protection and 
was not on birth control. 
This type of assault (rape) continued while 
was 
living in New York (45 Wall Street). 
is not sure if 
MAXWELL or EPSTEIN ever visited her while she lived there. 
They visited 
1-2 times at her house in Florida. This was 
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about a year or 2 after meeting him. From when 
met 
EPSTEIN to when she moved to New York she lived in the same 
house in Florida. This house was in a gated community called 
"Bear Lakes". It was a 3-bedroom house. 
During the summer of 1994, 1995 and 1996 
attended Interlochen summer camp. During the summer of 
1997 she attended Tanglewood summer camp outside of 
Boston. The summer before her senior year (1998) 
spent all in New York. She was 17 going on 18 years old this 
summer. 
stayed in one of EPSTEIN's apartments 
during this summer. She also stayed in his mansion for a bit 
before moving into 45 Wall Street prior to her starting school. 
This summer it was her responsibility to find her and her other 
a place to stay. 
was not sure if EPSTEIN was going to 
pay for this apartment or not. She just looked for the cheapest 
place to live that had 2 bedrooms. Eventually 
tells 
EPSTEIN that she found an apartment. 
is not sure how 
she found this. EPSTEIN may have had someone help her out 
but she's not sure. 
is asked about the Miss Teen USA pageant she 
participated in. 
states that her mother forced her to 
do this and she didn't want to. A Swedish friend of 
mother helped with this. She was a modelling agent in Florida. 
This pageant was not EPSTEIN related. 
recalls this 
happened prior to her senior year. She remembers dress 
shopping with her mother in Palm Beach. They bought a dress 
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and 
hated it. 
is asked if she recalls her sister 
helping with this at all to which she says no. 
recalls 
meeting her sister in New York at some point. Her sister came 
to EPSTEIN's mansion. Her sister wasn't really around much at 
the time. She is 10 years older than 
and had 3 kids at 
the time and lived in Boston. 
does not remember the 
context of her sisters visit to EPSTEIN's mansion. 
is asked about MAXWELL making threats. 
states that these were scolding, stern phone calls for 
being ungrateful. MAXWELL would set up appointments and 
make travel arrangements. She would talk about when and 
how they would travel. MAXWELL would discuss logistics. She 
would make travel arrangements for commercial flights that 
would take. 
would hear MAXWELL on the 
phone booking flights. She's not sure exactly who MAXWELL 
was talking to but she did make these calls. MAXWELL would 
talk to 
about upcoming trips. 
does not recall 
word for word what these conversations were. 
is asked if she recalls when travelling from one 
place to another did sexual abuse occur on the other end and 
she responds but stating "yes". 
states that it always 
occurred on the other end. There was maybe 1-2 times that it 
did not occur. 
is asked if during her first trip to New York, did 
abuse happen and she responds "yes but I don't specifically 
remember that abuse". 
is not sure how she got back 
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