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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
Date of entry 
 
01/) 3/2021 
, date of birth-, 
was interviewed at the FEDERAL 
BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION at 290 Broadway, New York, New York. Present for 
the interview was 
attorneys Brad Edwards and Brittany Henderson. 
Also present for the interview was Assistant United States Attorney- 
III and Special Agent-. 
After being advised of the identities 
of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided the following information: 
grew up in Astoria with her family; 
was the youngest of 
five children. 
has a European background and grew up in a strict 
household. 
has a big family. 
went to school in Astoria. 
When 
was 15 years old, her mother passed away and she was pretty 
much left on her own being the youngest child. 
aunts and uncles 
went their own way. 
met 
(known to law enforcement as 
and her life took a different turn. 
worked for JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 
still has trouble dealing with it; she normalized it in her mind for 
so long. 
knew meeting EPSTEIN was wrong but he was smart and he 
felt like her friend. EPSTEIN would hug 
and made her feel like he 
was the only person she had. 
wanted to feel mad about it but 
EPSTEIN was all she had for so many years; 
did not completely know 
how to feel about it. Saying it all out loud, 
realized how messed 
up it was and it took a long time for 
to get to that point. 
has seen movies and always wondered why people did not leave when in similar 
situations. 
has asked herself why she continued to have the 
relationship with EPSTEIN. 
still talks to III (known to law 
enforcement as 
) and 
(known to law enforcement as 
has also talked to her sister and a therapist 
no longer speaks with 
Investiptionon 11/04/2020 
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When 
was 15 years old, her mother was in the hospital for four 
months before she passed away. 
and her sister had no guardian. 
When 
met 
they smoked weed together. 
was independent 
and also 15 years old. 
was living with her mother and a "go 
getter". 
mom was strict while 
was not. A month after 
mother passed away, 
about a guy 
her friend 
problems. 
(EPSTEIN) who 
saw EPSTEIN. 
would pay for 
worked at a Greek restaurant 
tried to get 
a job like that. 
met EPSTEIN. 
talked about like he 
talked to 
food - 
that had 
had told 
was a god. 
■ about her 
always had money. 
Greek music. 
was angry with her family after her mother's passing. 
agreed to meet EPSTEIN. 
had told 
and 
to massage EPSTEIN and that 
he liked pretty girls and she may have to massage him in her bathing suit. 
EPSTEIN was nice, comforting, and 
EPSTEIN's house as hug and like a 
when she would go there. 
welcoming to 
dream. 
described 
stated it felt like a high 
The first time 
met EPSTEIN he knew everything about her. EPSTEIN 
listened, hugged her, and comforted her. EPSTEIN came at the right time in 
life as he seemed like a savior. There was no thought process as 
just went with it. EPSTEIN reassured 
that he would always 
be there if she ever needed anything. 
recalled the feeling that 
EPSTEIN loved and cared about her. The first time she went to EPSTEIN's 
home in Manhattan, 
was nervous and recalled fixing her makeup and 
wanting to look older. 
recalled walking up to EPSTEIN's front door 
because it was so massive. 
took 
to meet EPSTEIN. They 
walked into his Manhattan mansion as people let them in, then they waited in 
the office. EPSTEIN came in and showed 
around. 
recalled 
walking by his office and seeing leopard print chairs and thinking it was so 
cool because she loved leopard print. 
recalled going to different 
floors before going to the massage room. 
recalled the massage room as having a table with a little desk by 
it. The room had a full cabinet with so many lotions, including Bath and 
Body Works products. 
recalled orange scented products and stress 
relief products. 
felt cool because it felt like she was a real 
masseuse. 
described there being paintings on the walls. 
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recalled seeing a painting of a "fat lady" that was naked but look 
depressed. 
would joke because she "had a butt" and would say that 
was her while the skinny one was 
recalled she would never 
forget the ceiling as it was not flat and there were clouds all over. 
Ninety percent of the time, EPSTEIN would be on the phone while he was 
getting a massage, then he would get off of the phone then flip over. 
EPSTEIN would brag about who he was talking to on the phone, saying he was 
on with the president or be on the phone with models. The president went on 
a trip with EPSTEIN on EPSTEIN's private jet. 
felt that EPSTEIN 
would brag about these calls on purpose. 
EPSTEIN was always talking to someone in power. 
was very 
intimidated by him. EPSTEIN was very powerful and had a very strong 
presence. EPSTEIN would come in wearing "stupid sweaters" that had "JE" on 
them. 
stated EPSTEIN "was so extra". EPSTEIN had towels that had 
his initials on them. 
described that EPSTEIN was funny and had a 
good sense of humor and would make them laugh. 
wanted to be a 
superstar; her screen name at the time was " 
'. EPSTEIN told 
that he had all these connections with models, and he knew the head 
of Victoria's Secret. EPSTEIN made a lot of promises. 
A few times, EPSTEIN drove 
home with a driver. 
recalled 
they were in a black pickup suburban. EPSTEIN tried to ask 
to do 
stuff. 
EPSTEIN told 
he could take her places and she could fly 
with him. 
mother was in a car accident and 
was scared to 
be in cars and flying. EPSTEIN bought 
things including Victoria's 
Secret lingerie. EPSTEIN really liked 
EPSTEIN did not care if 
had someone; he just wanted to see her. 
and 
told 
that EPSTEIN really liked her and she should go with 
him. 
did not like flying so she did not travel with EPSTEIN. 
would call the office and talk to girls. EPSTEIN always had 
LESLEY (known to law enforcement as LESLEY GROFF) call 
then he would 
come on the phone. EPSTEIN never called 
direct. Eventually EPSTEIN 
started asking 
for friends. 
brought 
to meet 
EPSTEIN. 
estimated 
saw EPSTEIN 3 to 4 times. EPSTEIN 
would get tired of the same girls. 
knew EPSTEIN saw III; he wanted 
to see her. 
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If 
ever needed anything she would call 
because she was a 
girl and 
felt comfortable talking to her. 
would rarely call 
EPSTEIN personally. 
would ask for money or Broadway show tickets, 
then 
would usually go to the office to pick up the money or 
tickets. If 
needed something and it was after office hours she 
would call EPSTEIN. 
recalled giving 
her identification when 
she went to the office for tickets. 
checked her ID before giving her 
the tickets. 
was picking up approximately six tickets. 
just 
looked at her ID and gave it back to her. 
thought she was looking 
at it to maybe just make sure it was her. This was in the beginning during 
one of her first encounters with 
thought this was around 
2003. The first time 
had gone to the office was a few months after 
she started seeing EPSTEIN. 
thought the office was in Midtown. 
Sometimes, 
went with some of the girls, including 
or 
, to the office. 
did not go to the office with III as III 
and EPSTEIN formed their own relationship and he saw III on his own. Most 
of the times 
went in a cab to the office by herself. 
EPSTEIN was straight to the point, asking when he would see 
or if 
she had anyone new. EPSTEIN would tell her she could come at a certain 
time. Sometimes, 
went to EPSTEIN's residence 2 to 3 times a day to 
give him a massage. They did not speak over the phone about it. 
would massage EPSTEIN 
Then about six months later, EPSTEIN took 
to a different room, which 
was an open room that included a jacuzzi and a lot of shower heads. This 
was EPSTEIN's bedroom. 
EPSTEIN did not always 
every time he saw her. 
Sometimes, EPSTEIN just wanted 
Other times, EPSTEIN wanted to 
in different rooms of the house, including one time in the 
room that had a stuffed dog and a tiger in it. 
Seeing EPSTEIN became more personable to 
as it felt like EPSTEIN 
was her boyfriend. EPSTEIN would spend time with her and drive her home. 
knew he was not her boyfriend because he was still seeing her 
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knew the massages were sexual because 
had told her. 
told 
that she met EPSTEIN through her friend-
told
that EPSTEIN was rich, he would help her, and give her money. 
told 
that she would have to massage EPSTEIN and it would lead 
to a "happy ending" and that EPSTEIN sometimes "jerked himself off". 
told her she would get $300 each time. The massages turned sexual right 
away when 
started seeing EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN always gave her $300, 
sometimes he gave her $400. If 
went with someone, sometimes it was 
would get $300 and 
or another girl would get $300. 
EPSTEIN paid 
himself. If EPSTEIN gave 
the full amount, 
sometimes 
only gave 
$200 and kept the rest for herself. 
asked LESLEY if she could borrow $1000 and EPSTEIN said she 
could. 
went to the office to pick it up. 
described 
as blonde and nice. 
would tell LESLEY to tell EPSTEIN that her 
friend could not make it and asked if he wanted to see 
instead. 
would mention different girls' names to LESLEY. 
felt it was 
pretty obvious LESLEY knew what was going on. When 
was 17/18 years 
old she found out she was pregnant. 
called the office to talk to 
LESLEY, saying she needed to speak to EPSTEIN as soon as possible because 
she needed money to get an abortion. 
said the procedure would cost 
her $400. LESLEY was able to get EPSTEIN on the phone right away and 
EPSTEIN gave 
$1000 in an envelope. 
then went to Planned 
Parenthood. EPSTEIN would send 
to his dentist and medical care 
providers if she needed it. 
was supposed to go to school in 9th grade but with her mother 
passing away and her family not around, she could not focus. With 
"selling her body to an older man" she felt she was "fucked up". 
would rather call LESLEY than EPSTEIN when she needed money. 
LESLEY knew she was staying in hotels. 
was too young to get an 
apartment in her name as she was 16 years old at the time, so she stayed in 
hotels, including Super 8. 
would call LESLEY, who knew she was 
living in hotels, and tell her she needed money for hotels. 
said to 
LESLEY that she could not sign a lease because she was not 18 years old. 
remembered the conversation she had with LESLEY because it was when 
she first booked a hotel. 
was staying with III for approximately 2 
to 3 days when 
mother started "bitching" about her staying there. She 
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and III stormed out and they slept on the roof that night. 
then 
called the office and talked to LESLEY. 
told LESLEY that she could 
not get an apartment because she was not 18. 
told LESLEY that it 
was $100 night and if she stayed for the week then she could get a better 
rate. It was a hotel near 
house. LESLEY said she would relay the 
message to EPSTEIN. 
ended up staying with 
for a while. 
would take girls out, get their nails done, get a girl to be her 
friend then convince her to go to see EPSTEIN. 
would tell this to 
LESLEY and ask her if EPSTEIN could give her money to do so. Key words she 
would say to LESLEY was, "I have a new friend and I was going to take her to 
dinner and get her nails done". LESLEY would tell her "ok", put her on 
hold, and get EPSTEIN on the line. 
had a deeper conversation with 
LESLEY in person. There was a time when 
had to wait because the 
money was not ready when she went to pick it up from the office - usually 
the money was ready but that time it was not and she and LESLEY talked. 
felt it was clear her relationship with EPSTEIN was based on money 
and she felt it was clear she was underage. 
said things stopped when EPSTEIN was arrested in Florida. 
EPSTEIN had gone to Florida and she did not see him for a while and did not 
know what had happened. 
just thought that he went away. 
had 
gotten a notice when EPSTEIN was arrested. 
told EPSTEIN and 
remembered being scared about it. EPSTEIN said he got in trouble in 
Florida. 
remembered being mad for him. EPSTEIN said that if she 
saw or heard anything, she did not know anything and to ignore it. 
said EPSTEIN was still in Florida. 
did not think she knew what was 
going on and 
did not mention it. 
When EPSTEIN came back to New York, there were rules. One of the rules 
was that girls had to bring ID and had to be 18 years old. This was for a 
few months. When 
was around 21 years old, things with EPSTEIN "died 
off". There were times where 
told EPSTEIN she had a girl who was 21 
years old and he told 
that was too old. It became challenging for 
to find girls that EPSTEIN liked. Sometimes 
lied to EPSTEIN 
and told him the girl was younger than she was if she looked young, but 
EPSTEIN would catch her in the lie. 
had conversations with EPSTEIN on how old she was. They had 
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conversations about why she could not get an apartment. EPSTEIN knew 
age because he asked right away, also asking where she was from 
and what was her birthday. 
told him she was a Cancer and EPSTEIN 
told her he was an Aquarius. 
Two to three months after meeting EPSTEIN, 
brought 
was 
best friend at the time, before 
had met 
EPSTEIN would ask questions about her day and she would talk about 
, so EPSTEIN told her that she should bring her. Sometimes, 
lied to EPSTEIN that she did not have anyone. 
would try to find a 
girl to go with her if he was not seeing her as much. EPSTEIN wanted a 
certain age group, even 20 was too old for him. EPSTEIN liked 15 to 18 
years old girls and liked them on the "slim side". When 
was 16 
years old, she started training and her "butt got bigger" and EPSTEIN told 
her that she 
her to bring 
needed to 
girls, he 
lose 
said 
the slim side?". After the 
ten pounds. When EPSTEIN first started asking 
something like, "Do you have any friends, but on 
first few conversations with him he did not have 
to tell her anymore. EPSTEIN would settle if he had to if the girl looked 
young but would tell 
never to bring her again. EPSTEIN did not like 
aggressive or experienced girls. EPSTEIN hated one girl because she tried 
to do more with him and initiated more. EPSTEIN liked shy and timid girls. 
EPSTEIN did not want anyone over 18 years old. 
and III talked about 
it once and they brought a girl just to shut him up and EPSTEIN replied 
"really". 
EPSTEIN would turn them down. There would be certain girls 
knew would be willing to go. To 
the money she received at 
the time felt like a lot of money. 
would tell girls that they would 
massage EPSTEIN and sometimes he would masturbate. 
made it seem 
like it was normal. 
normalized it in her own brain. When 
would take a girl the first time, she would stay with the other girl. 
Sometimes EPSTEIN would want her to stay in the room with the girl she 
brought and sometimes he would want her to leave the room. EPSTEIN would 
give 
a vibrator and tell her to go wait in the other room. When 
would bring a girl, she would bring them one or two times then 
would filter through friends and bring different girls. 
friendships at the time were based on who was working with her to see 
EPSTEIN. 
remembered 
but dealt with 
more. 
Was 
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EPSTEIN's go to person. 
was one of the girls who also worked in the 
office. 
mostly dealt with 
but then later dealt with someone 
else, but did not recall the person's name. 
recalled someone with 
brown hair who worked out of the office at the house sometimes; 
was 
not sure if this was 
she was recalling or someone else. 
recalled talking to 
the last time and she said she would speak to 
EPSTEIN but EPSTEIN never called 
met CHRIS TUCKER in EPSTEIN's house and just said hi to him. 
interaction with TUCKER was brief and just said it was nice to 
meet him - they did not really talk and nothing happened with him. EPSTEIN 
always told 
he was going to get her into Victoria's Secret, telling 
her he knew NAOMI CAMPBELL. There was one time where EPSTEIN introduced 
to CAMPBELL while they were in EPSTEIN's office with the stuffed 
tiger. 
recalled something about MIKE TYSON but did not remember 
what it was. EPSTEIN may have been talking to TYSON on speaker phone and 
heard. EPSTEIN was always on the phone with others including, BILL 
CLINTON and DONALD TRUMP. 
EPSTEIN and 
talked via phone call but never through email or 
text. EPSTEIN gave her lingerie. 
still has the first bra EPSTEIN 
gave her; it was a white lace Victoria's Secret bra. 
had picked the 
lingerie up from the office; LESLEY gave it to her in a Victoria's Secret 
bag. EPSTEIN also gave 
earrings, but she gave those away. 
When 
was not around EPSTEIN she did not want to go see him, but 
when she was around him she wondered why she was beating herself up about 
seeing him. EPSTEIN was 
only source of income for a while. 
was able to get 
a job with " 
" for a while. 
felt that LESLEY knew the massage appointments were sexual. 
would talk with LESLEY about different girls and LESLEY was always 
connecting her with EPSTEIN. LESLEY would get back on the call with 
when EPSTEIN was done talking to him, so 
did not know if LESLEY was 
on the whole time. 
never said anything to LESLEY about the 
massages. 
recalled a time when she and III were underage drinking and were 
arrested. 
thought they were on 77th and York and went to a police 
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station downtown. 
called LESLEY and EPSTEIN bailed them out. They 
went to court and 
and III had to do community service. 
Was 
around 17 year sold and thought III would have been 16 years old when this 
happened. 
thought this happened in or around 2004 probably around 
the end of summer. 
The last time 
saw EPSTEIN was when she was 21 years old. 
thought she spoke with EPSTEIN sometime afterwards because she had a bill 
from EPSTEIN's dentist DR KAPLAN and had called LESLEY. EPSTEIN had 
returned her call while she was in Walmart with her boyfriend. 
thought she was around 23/24 years old at the time of this call. EPSTEIN 
told her not to worry about the bill. 
thought the bill was around 
$5000. EPSTEIN told her he was going through stuff but everything was ok 
and that he hoped to see her soon. EPSTEIN never called her again. 
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