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Q 
Now does your testimony today summarize 
the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt 
Acts 19 through 31? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And if I could just refer you to Count 
12, which appears on Pages 40 and 41 of the 
proposed indictment. Is this the evidence that 
you just summarized the basis for the allegations 
that Jeffrey Epstein and 
used a 
facility of interstate commerce to persuade, 
induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Three to engage 
in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a 
person can be charged with a criminal offense? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Was Jane Doe Number Three under the age 
of 16 during part of her interactions with Mr. 
Epstein? 
A 
Yes, she was. 
Q 
And under Florida law, could Mr. Epstein 
have been charged with lewd and lascivious 
molestation, lewd and lascivious conduct, and lewd 
and lascivious exhibition based upon his touching 
of Jane Doe Number Three's breasts, genitals, his 
solicitation of Jane Doe Number Three in a lewd 
and lascivious act and his masturbation and 
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exposure of his genitals to her? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
All right. Let's turn to Jane Does 
Four, Five, and Six, please, and could you tell 
the grand jury who Four, Five and Six are? 
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Jane Doe Four, Number Four is a white 
female named 
She was born in 
She attended both 
High School 
High School in Palm Beach 
County. 
Jane Doe Number Five is a white female 
named 
. She was born in 
She attended 
High School in Palm Beach 
County, Florida. 
Jane Doe Number Six is a white female 
named 
She was born in 
and 
she' attended 
High School in 
Palm Beach County, Florida. 
Q 
Have the three Jane Does Four, Five, and 
Six been interviewed? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And during what period of time did they 
have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A 
In or around the first half of 2004 
possibly going into the summer months is when we 
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Four's underwear was pulled aside by Mr. Epstein 
and he stroked her-
Q
And she was paid following that massage 
as well? 
A 
Yes, she was. 
Q 
Who led Jane Does Four and Five up to 
the bedroom during that first massage? 
A 
Jane Does Four and Five went upstairs. 
They were taken upstairs by 
And what evidence is there regarding 
Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number 
Four's true age? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Four told Mr. Epstein 
how old she was. 
Q 
In respond to his question about her 
age? 
A 
Yes. I'm sorry. 
Mr. Epstein asked her 
age and she informed Mr. Epstein of her true age 
at the time. 
Q 
Now during -- you mentioned that the 
first massage that the two of them were together, 
Jane Does Four and Five, and did Mr. Epstein 
masturbate in front of them at that time? 
A 
Yes, he did, and I should say that Mr. 
Epstein requested them to remove their clothing 
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during that massage as well. 
Q 
Okay. 
And did he ever instruct Jane Doe 
Number Four to play with his nipples? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
You said that Jane Doe Number Four 
returned after that first massage, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
How was she contacted to set up those 
later massages? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Four was contacted by 
Q 
Via telephone? 
A 
Via telephone, yes. 
Q 
Did Jane Doe Number Four bring anyone 
else to Jeffrey Epstein's home? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Four brought Jane Doe 
Number Six. 
Jane Doe Number Four and Jane Doe 
Number Six performed the massage together and then 
Jane Doe Number Four was asked to leave. 
At that point, the sexual activity that 
was performed on Jane Doe Number Six by Mr. 
Epstein was the digital penetration of Jane Doe 
Number Six' 
as well as the use of a 
massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Six's 
vagina. He did masturbate. 
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He did pay Jane Doe Number Six $200 for 
that massage, and Jane Doe Number Six did not 
return again after that massage. 
Q 
Did Mr. Epstein ask anything related to 
Jane Doe in terms of her age or something that 
would indicate her age? 
A 
He asked them where they went to high 
school. 
Q 
And did she respond? 
A 
Yes, she told him she went t 
Q 
Does your testimony cover the evidence 
supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 32 
through 45? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And if I could refer you to Count Three, 
which is on Page 39, is the evidence that you just 
summarized the basis for the allegation that 
19 Jeffrey Epstein and 
procured Jane Doe 
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Number Four to engage in commercial sex acts 
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knowing that she was under 18? 
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Yes. 
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So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein knew 
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her age before he asked her that the second time? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
And referring to Count 13, which is on 
Page 41 and 42, is this evidence that you just 
summarized the basis for the allegations that 
Jeffrey Epstein and 
used a facility 
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and 
entice Jane Doe Number Four to engage in 
prostitution? 
A 
Yes. We have the testimony of Jane Doe 
Numbers Four, Five, and Six as well as others and 
we also have telephonic contact between Jane Doe 
Number Five by 
just shortly before 
her 18th birthday. 
Q 
All right. If I could refer you to Jane 
Does Number Nine and Ten at this point. The Overt 
Acts related to them start on Page 17. 
Let's start with Jane Doe Number Nine. 
Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number 
Nine is? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Nine is a white female 
named 
She was born in 
and 
she attended 
High School. 
Q 
And have you testified about her 
previously? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Is there anything that you want to 
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either clarify or add regarding your earlier 
testimony? 
A 
There is one thing that I'd like to add 
that I didn't testify to earlier about an incident 
that occurred in November, specifically, November 
28, 2004. 
Jane Doe Number Nine was 17 years of age 
and we have a police document in the Town of Palm 
Beach that shows that Jane Doe Number One 
mean, Jane Doe Number Nine was provided with an 
envelope filled with money that Mr. Epstein had 
arranged for one of his employees to give Jane Doe 
Number Nine. 
The reason the Palm Beach Police 
Department were called in is the employee didn't 
recognize Jane Doe Number Nine's car, which was 
parked in the driveway. So he contacted the 
police. 
Once the police came out though, Mr. 
Epstein's employee went and retrieved an envelope 
and it had money in it. The employee told the 
police that Jane Doe Number Nine was a massage 
therapist and continued with the officer stating 
off the record that Mr. Epstein had many young 
girls that come over for that. 
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Q 
And that related to Overt Act Number 80 
on Page 18? 
A 
Yes, it does. 
Q 
Okay. 
And can you just remind the grand 
jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number 
Nine had contact with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Nine had contract 
between July 2004 and September of 2005, during 
that time period. 
And how old was she during that time 
frame? 
A 
She was 17 up until her birthday, which 
is the end of December of 2004, but continued to 
have contact with Mr. Epstein after she was 18. 
Q 
And can you summarize the sexual 
activity that Jane Doe Number Nine was involved in 
with Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Yes. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe 
Number Nine's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated 
in front of Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein 
used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number 
Nine's 
He 
Jane Doe Number 
Nine. 
He performed oral sex on Jane Doe Number 
Nine. Mr. Epstein 
his penis 
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into the 
of Jane Doe Number Nine. 
Jane Doe Number Nine watched per Mr. 
Epstein's request as Mr. Epstein engaged in oral 
sex and sexual intercourse with 
Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Nine to 
perform oral sex on 
When Jane 
Doe Number Nine didn't want to do that, Mr. 
Epstein offered her an additional $200 if Jane Doe 
Number Nine would perform oral sex on 
for five minutes, which Jane Doe Number 
Nine did. 
Q 
And how much was Jane Doe Number Nine 
paid? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Nine was paid -- on the 
first visit we have that she was paid $200. She 
was paid anywhere from $300 to $1 ,000. 
Q 
And what did that depend on? 
A 
The sexual activity. $300 to $600 was 
the sexual activity. The one time we have noted 
that she was given $1 ,000 was when he 
of her. 
Q 
And you mentioned that Jane Doe Number 
Nine was still seeing Mr. Epstein after she turned 
18. What evidence do you have that corroborates 
her statements that these activities that we are 
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talking about occurred before she was 18? 
A 
we have phone records. We have message 
pads. 
We have obtained documents that are from 
Majestic Theater and from Jet Blue that indicate 
that Mr. Epstein purchased a ticket for Jane Doe 
Number Nine for her 18th birthday. 
She actually flew to New York on her 
18th birthday. 
Mr. Epstein thought it would be 
better for her to travel when she turned 18. 
So 
she traveled to New York and Mr. Epstein purchased 
tickets -- or paid for her to see the Phantom of 
the Opera, which was being performed at the 
Majestic Theater. 
Q 
Now when you say Mr. Epstein, who was 
actually making the calls? 
A 
I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein's assistant, 
Q 
Okay. Let's talk about Jane Doe Number 
Ten as well because they are related. Can you 
remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Ten is? 
Jane Doe Number Ten is a white female 
and she was born in 
She attended 
High School, and I talked 
about her prior. 
Q 
You have talked about her previously? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Is there anything that you want to 
clarify or add related to that testimony? 
A 
No, nothing. 
Q 
And can you remind the grand jury during 
what period of time Jane Doe Number Ten was 
involved with Mr. Epstein? 
A 
She went to Mr. Epstein's residence in 
July of 2004 to November 2005. 
We have her still 
in contact with Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
And how old was she during that time 
frame? 
A 
She was 17. 
Up until 
she turned 18. 
Q 
And how is Jane Doe Number Ten related 
to Jane Doe Number Nine in connection with these 
events? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Nine brought Jane Doe 
Number Ten to Mr. Epstein's residence. 
Q 
Now if I could refer you to Overt Act 
Number 67, and it says on or about July 16, 2004, 
Defendant 
caused Jane Doe Number Nine 
to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone 
used by Jane Doe Number Ten. 
Do you see that? 
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Yes. 
Q 
Can you tell us in addition to the 
testimony from Jane Doe Number Nine what the 
telephone records show? 
A 
An examination of Jane Doe Number Nine's 
cell phone records show that she contacted Jane 
Doe Number Ten, and if you examine 
records you will see that there was contact 
between Jane Doe Number Nine and 
Q 
On the same day? 
A 
On the same day. 
Q 
All right. What was the sexual activity 
that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with, with 
Jeffrey Epstein? 
A 
I'm sorry. One second. 
I just want to 
look at this. Okay. I'm sorry. 
What was your 
question? 
Q 
What was the sexual activity that Jane 
Doe Number Ten was involved in with Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number 
Ten's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front 
of Jane Doe Number Ten. 
Mr. Epstein used a 
massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Ten's 
and he also touched Jane Doe Number Ten's 
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How much did Jane Doe Number Ten 
receive? 
A 
Jane Doe Number Ten was paid $200. 
Q 
And she went to Mr. Epstein's home more 
than once? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Can you give the grand jury an idea of 
how many phone calls there were between 
and Jane Doe Number Nine 
A 
Yes. There were approximately 225 phone 
calls. 
Q 
And they are in the documents and 
records that you have? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And what about Jane Doe Number Ten? 
A 
There were over 100 phones calls between 
and Jane Doe Number Ten, and there 
were also phone calls between Jane Doe Number Ten 
and 
and those were approximately 
eight calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and 
with only one being prior to her 18th 
birthday. 
There were also approximately seven 
calls with 
with all but one after 
her 18th birthday. That one was actually on her 
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18th birthday. 
Q 
And those calls that you are referring 
to relate only to the cellular telephone records 
that you have, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
So if there were calls from Jeffrey 
Epstein's phone numbers to or from that number 
that couldn't necessarily be captured? 
A 
No. 
Q 
Okay. 
Now if I could just ask you to 
look at Count Four. Does your testimony today and 
your prior testimony summarize the basis for the 
allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and 
procured Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in 
commercial sex acts knowing she was under 18? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And in Count 15 is the evidence that you 
just summarized the basis for the allegation that 
Jeffrey Epstein and 
used a facility 
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and 
entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in 
prostitution? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And also the offense charges using a 
facility of interstate commerce to persuade, 
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induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage 
in sexual activity for which the person can be 
charged with a criminal offense. 
With respect to Jane Doe Number Nine, 
what is this offense that Mr. Epstein could have 
been charged with, with respect to that activity 
with her? 
A 
The sexual intercourse 
. Epstein 
penetrated Jane Doe Number Nine' 
with his 
penis. 
Q 
And then with respect to Jane Doe Number 
Ten, Count Five charges that Jeffrey Epstein and 
procured Jane Doe Number Ten to 
engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was 
under 18. 
How do you summarize for us the 
evidence supporting that? 
A 
Yes. The only thing I'd like to add to 
that is we also do have message pads that were 
obtained through the Town of Palm Beach with the 
execution of the search warrant at Mr. Epstein's 
residence as well as trash pulls that the Town of 
Palm Beach conducted in the spring of '05, 2005, 
and one of those trash pulls I believe -- is it 
Overt Act 81? 
Q 
Yes, 81 . 
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A 
The trash pull -- found in the trash 
pull conducted by the Town of Palm Beach was 
Jeffrey Epstein's letterhead and on it handwritten 
that says 10:30, 
and then 
on 
Friday around 2:00, and then there's a 
underneath it. 
2005. 
This was obtained on April 1 st, 
And then the message pad that I referred 
to -- I'm sorry, the trash pull was Overt Act 147. 
The Overt Act was 81 , and that message pad is 
that message is from Jeffrey Epstein dated 
December 4, 2004. The time is 2:55 p.m. 
The message is from 
and it's 
written, 
would like to work at 4:00 p.m. 
if possible, and then in parenthesis, 
is 
scheduled for 5:00 today. 
At the bottom it says, 
the movie is at 7:30. 
Q 
And you said that was written by 
Defendant 
and it's addressed to 
Jeffrey Epstein? 
A 
Yes. 
THE FOREPERSON: 
We need a break. 
Okay. Should we take 
ten minutes? 
THE FOREPERSON: Is this a good time? 
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This is fine. 
(Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) 
(Thereupon, a short break was taken.) 
(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
We are back on the 
record. Is there a quorum? 
THE FOREPERSON: Yes. 
BY 
L: 
Q 
We were just finishing up with Jane Doe 
Number Ten. Special Agent 
you 
summarized a lot of evidence relating to Jane Doe 
Number Ten. 
Is the evidence that you summarized also 
the basis for the allegation in Count 16 that 
Jeffrey Epstein and 
used a facility 
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and 
entice Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in 
prostitution? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Okay. I just want to review with you, 
Special Agent 
that you did, in fact, 
previously testify about background information 
regarding the defendants in this indictment? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And that was in one of your earlier 
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transcripts? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Okay. 
I also wanted to ask you about 
the victims who we have discussed today. We have 
discussed eight victims, Jane Does One through Six 
and Nine and Ten. 
Are you aware of whether any of those 
victims have used illicit drugs or have had 
mental health issues? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And can you summarize that for the grand 
jury? 
A 
Jane Doe Number -- we'll start with Jane 
Doe Number Two. 
After the contact or during the 
contact, but after she had met Mr. Epstein, Jane 
Doe Number Two 
between ages 15 and 
17. 
I guess what I am trying to say is that 
she first had contact with Mr. Epstein when she 
was 14 years of age. So when I interviewed Jane 
Doe Number Two, she informed me that 
started between the ages 15 to 17. 
She had a 
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Her mother had 
Doe Number Two told me that helped her 
Jane 
Q 
Meaning you can be 
A 
Yes. 
health issues? 
Q 
I did. 
And did you ask me about mental 
A 
And she had also been i 
Jane Doe Number Two revealed to us that 
when she was very young, 
and has suffered from that ever 
since. 
Q 
Any other Jane Does? 
A 
Yes. Jane Doe Number Three also has a 
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She dropped out of school at an early age. 
Jane Doe Number Three expressed that 
she just wanted to feel numb. 
She stayed with a lot of -- she did not 
stay at home a lot after age 15 due to the fact 
that 
Q 
Okay. 
A 
And then the last Jane Doe that we 
talked about would have been Jane Doe Number Nine, 
and we do have information that she has 
Q 
With respect to those Jane Does, did you 
go about getting independent corroboration for 
their statements so that you weren't relying 
exclusive on what they told you about Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Yes. 
We talked about that today. 
Specifically, with Jane Doe Number Two, we have 
her statement, but along with that statement we 
have telephone records. 
Those telephone records indicate 
telephonic contact with 
We have the 
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