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listed individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided the 
following information: 
(Inlets'. Retain) 
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c 
date of birth (DOB) 
, was interviewed via
onference. Present on the video call was 
attorney 
Also present on the video call was Assistant United States Attorneys 
III and 
, along with Detective IIII 
and Special 
After being advised of the identities of the above 
In the fall of 2004, 
thought she worked with 
was originally placed in a model's apartment for 
teenagers because she was 
was moved to an apartment 
with three older girls in their twenties, 
LAST NAME UNKOWN (LNU), 
LNU, and 
LNU. 
was approximately 22-25 years old, 
was approximately 20-21 years old, and 
was approximately 25-
26 years old. They told 
she could massage a guy (JEFFREY EPSTEIN) for 
a couple hundred dollars. 
was told she would have to be in lingerie 
while giving the massage. They told 
he was nice and would talk on the 
phone taking business calls and would ask questions about her. They told 
he would tell you what to do and would have to rub his feet and 
calves. All three of the girls in the apartment with 
went and all 
said he was nice. Looking back on it 
does not know why she did not 
think it was creepy because that is how her 
self feels. 
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in touch with 
thought she first 
met 
in the park. 
told 
that EPSTEIN was nice, he 
helps people, and has connections in the modeling world. 
met 
on a different day around the subway station at Hunter College, where they 
walked to EPSTEIN's New York residence at 9 IIII 71st 
did not 
remember if 
had stayed with her and did not recall who answered the 
door when they arrived. 
remembered being in the massage room. 
EPSTEIN came in the room and told 
to start massaging his feet. 
EPSTEIN asked 
questions. 
did not remember everything that 
happened the first time she went. 
thought EPSTEIN paid her but was 
not sure. 
stated bits and pieces all melded together. 
called 
telling her EPSTEIN really liked her and would like 
to see her again, so 
2004, 
called her and invited her to the island. 
said she 
could not go to the island because she had to work to pay her rent. 
was supposed to be working at 
was 
going to receive $50 for two days of work. 
told 
that EPSTEIN 
would pay her rent for a month if she went to the island. 
was told 
she would have a photo shoot on the island; 
recalled this because she 
had written this down. 
did not recall if she flew with 
to 
the island. Once she arrived on the island, 
remembered meeting 
was nervous and 
was really nice and a calm and 
easy person. 
remembered KATHY ALEXANDER and MILES ALEXANDER, who 
worked on the island. 
remembered EPSTEIN, 
and 
all 
being on the island with her. 
did not recall if there was anyone 
else. 
did not remember what contact happened with EPSTEIN on the 
island during this trip. 
did not recall if it was this first time she 
went to the island or a different time where EPSTEIN sexually penetrated 
described "it's all a blur". 
went back. 
went a couple of times. In 
recalled going to every property EPSTEIN owned, including New York, 
Palm Beach, Little St. James, New Mexico, and Paris. 
also recalled 
EPSTEIN having an apartment in Boston that she had visited. 
has also 
been in OHISLAINE MAXWELL's London house. 
spent years with EPSTEIN. 
time with EPSTEIN tapered off in 
approximately 2006/2007. 
did not recall exactly when EPSTEIN had been 
involved with the "court stuff" but her time with him went on during that 
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time period. In 2009, when EPSTEIN was on work release, 
traveled to 
see him. 
thought there was another time where "they" asked her to 
help them on Little St James when EPSTEIN was hosting a science convention. 
had seen MAXWELL's name on notepads. 
asked 
who 
that was. 
told 
that MAXWELL used to be EPSTEIN's girlfriend. 
also told 
that MAXWELL traveled with them and helped manage 
EPSTEIN's properties. 
first met MAXWELL in New Mexico at EPSTEIN's 
Zorro Ranch. 
because she was a helicopter pilot and would share stories, one of which 
MAXWELL described a robber coming onto the ranch and MAXWELL pretended to 
have a fake gun and put it to the robber's back. 
describe 
described MAXWELL as seeming to be a badass woman, 
as EPSTEIN's right hand woman. 
was an 
assistant who did everything for EPSTEIN. 
described other individuals that she met in EPSTEIN's circle. 
, who was EPSTEIN's girlfriend 
who 
recalled seeing her mainly in Florida, and also 
on Little St James 
who was EPSTEIN's other girlfriend in approximately 
2006 
IGOR ZANOVEV, who was EPSTEIN's trainer 
ALEX or ALEC, who was another Russian trainer who was friends with 
flew with DAVE RODGERS, which according to his flight logs showed 
on approximately 25 flights. 
also flew with another pilot LARRY 
VISOSKI. 
recalled flying every week. 
remembered traveling more 
to Palm Beach and the island. 
While in Palm Beach, 
waited around for EPSTEIN to tell her what to 
do. EPSTEIN and 
old 
to ask 
if she needed anything 
before doing something. 
recalled a time where EPSTEIN and 
were 
upset with her because she took a four-wheeler out on the island without 
them knowing. 
Initially, 
thought EPSTEIN liked her. 
thought she was 
EPSTEIN's girlfriend before she realized that she was not his girlfriend. 
felt like a floater; 
felt all over the place. EPSTEIN offered 
to put her on the payroll, so 
was like an assistant. 
thought 
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she was put on EPSTEIN's payroll around 2005. Some of 
responsibilities as an assistant included asking iif 
she needed help 
with something, making EPSTEIN sandwiches, and running errands. 
felt 
like a "schlepper". Around the end of 2005, 
started going to 
MAXWELL's office and helping organize the office and helping with Christmas 
stuff. 
would ask EPSTEIN if he wanted to see anyone and at what time he 
wanted to see someone. It would be underage girls 
would schedule to 
see EPSTEIN. This happened every time 
was in Palm Beach. 
would schedule either on the plane when they were traveling to Palm Beach or 
when they arrived. 
observed one girl come a day. 
thought she 
was there because EPSTEIN needed three massages a day. EPSTEIN would say 
that he needed three orgasms a day; this was something EPSTEIN would say to 
whoever was around him. If 
was not giving EPSTEIN a massage, it would 
have been someone else who had to give him one. Being that 
massaged 
EPSTEIN, she understood there to be massages happening in Palm Beach. The 
massages were sexual. EPSTEIN would tell "you to do something and you just 
did it". 
did not hear much about anything occurring in New York. 
recalled a couple girls' names, including 
, 
and 
remembered 
name and her face. 
recalled it 
seemed like there were people who came with similar names. 
did not recall having conversations with 
about massage 
appointments. 
felt that she was so embarrassed by the massage 
situation herself that she did not ask questions. 
thought 
did 
set things up in the massage ro 
on someone came in, 
did not know 
what happened but did know that 
or 
would go up to the room to 
prepare. 
would ask EPSTEIN who he wanted to see and EPSTEIN would say a 
name. 
would tell EPSTEIN a girl would be available at a certain 
time, then ask EPSTEIN if he wanted to see her. 
did not recall 
specific conversations about girls, including 
and 
EPSTEIN attempted to have more than two of them at one time. In Palm 
Beach, EPSTEIN offered to use the steam room. 
set it up. 
described 
as a "free bird" who was comfortable being nude. 
was 
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made it seem ok. At some 
tried to make things seem ok. EPSTEIN made it 
for her future boyfriend. EPSTEIN told 
and said, "That's why a man likes a woman; see 
was topless. EPSTEIN was talking about the curve of 
back. 
thought 
was behind her and touching her. 
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point, EPSTEIN came up and 
seem like he was helping 
to touch 
skin, 
how soft the skin is". 
froze. 
did not 
was the only one who EPSTEIN tried to get 
saw 
an .m
assage feet, head, and shoulders. 
not recall if she saw MAXWELL massage. 
In the Virgin Islands, EPSTEIN had told them to go to sleep. 
up to 
and told her, "Don't tell Ghislaine that I'm sleeping with 
Jeffrey; she'll kill me and hate me". 
did not originally think 
was sleeping with EPSTEIN. 
"kind of" taught 
how to massage. 
did 
came 
would rub EPSTEIN's 
head. 
advice was not on sexual matters but rather told 
not 
to burp, fart, curse, or drink around EPSTEIN. There was no alcohol on 
EPSTEIN's properties. If someone was in a bad mood, they would get sent 
home. 
could not recall anything specific MAXWELL may have told her. 
thought EPSTEIN and MAXWELL's relationship was "more than 
friends". MAXWELL gave instruction on things to do to the staff. Both 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL had a "dirty sailor type mouth". 
recalled MAXWELL 
saying something about blowjobs. 
assumed that people knew massages were sexual. No one talked about 
it, but they knew. 
thought 
was a real masseuse, but later found out 
that she was not. 
always considered 
apartment 
apartment. 
EPSTEIN. MAXWELL 
move in that day. 
out. MAXWELL told 
lived in a New York 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL put her in this 
thought this was around 
a few months after she met 
told 
that 
needed to use MAXWELL's driver and 
was told that at any time she could be told to move 
, "I don't want your shitty furniture in the 
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apartment". 
lived in the studio apartment by herself. Other people 
that also lived at 
were 
who 
was MAXWELL's office assistant, 
and one of the chefs DAVID MULLEN. 
stayed on EPSTEIN's payroll until MAXWELL separated from EPSTEIN, 
then 
was on MAXWELL's payroll. 
thought MAXWELL's boyfriend at 
the time, TED WAITT, paid 
salary. At this time, all of MAXWELL's 
assistants had left around December 2007. 
was the "last man 
standing". 
salary was $20,000 in the beginning. While on EPSTEIN's 
payroll, 
was an errand runner including gathering food for the plane 
for trips and getting EPSTEIN whatever he needed. MAXWELL wanted 
to 
pick up clothes. 
salary was $60,000 when MAXWELL "got rid" of her; 
this was around October 2017. 
In Palm Beach, 
did not remember the schedule or times of massages, 
as she did not see a lot. Sometimes, 
was sent out to run an errand or 
to go for a run. EPSTEIN always wanted 4 o'clock massages. 
knew of 
other people giving massages but could not recall all of the female names. 
heard names of people they would talk about or set up times for them. 
remembered seeing a couple younger females. 
saw them come into 
the kitchen and saw them stand there before going upstairs. The females 
looked young but 
did not ask. 
thought the females were her age 
or younger. 
or 
would say that someone would be at the house at 
a specific time. There were no further conversations about it. 
did 
not tell anyone she met EPSTEIN through a massage. 
did not want 
people to ask questions. They just said that EPSTEIN was getting a massage. 
EPSTEIN did not have massage appointments with men. When asked about 
EPSTEIN's preferences, 
said "younger". EPSTEIN teased 
about 
being younger than her. 
talked about a time where it was 
just she and EPSTEIN when he told her the reason he liked younger girls. 
EPSTEIN told 
that up until the age of 23 the brain is still forming so 
the brain is moldable. EPSTEIN was very open about this. 
was 
present when EPSTEIN talked about his preferences. EPSTEIN said it all the 
time. EPSTEIN joked with 
because she became older as she wa 
years old at the time. EPSTEIN made comments about younger females. 
EPSTEIN's favorite book was "Lolita". EPSTEIN made comments about teenage 
years, but 
did not realize that meant girls. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN 
would make stuff a joke and they would laugh. 
could not remember 
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anything specifically. 
advised if MAXWELL was there and EPSTEIN said 
something about younger females, MAXWELL would probably joke back about 
EPSTEIN liking younger women. 
The first time 
had a hint that something was wrong was on EPSTEIN's 
plane. 
remembered seeing 
frantic. They ended up flying 
somewhere different than originally planned. 
thought they were in 
Miami but she did not remember specifically. 
thought EPSTEIN and 
started talking about the investigation, but they did not talk in 
front of her. 
not recall, but 
in Palm Beach. 
the investigation. 
thought 
apartment in 
, 
so 
so scared because she had no idea what was 
going to get in trouble for prostitution. 
to see her boyfriend. MAXWELL called 
tellin her that she needed to come back right then. 
told MAXWELL 
that 
had told her she could not stay at her New York apartment. 
MAXWELL told 
that she did not care. 
had flown to New York to 
get her 
visa and 
yelled at her, saying, "I told you not to 
go to New York". 
was terrified and in Central Park with her 
suitcase. 
thought there were investigators that 
did not want 
her to talk with. 
found out at some point that the investigation was 
about underage girls, but 
did not recall how she found out. 
thought the investigators may have been from the Palm Beach Police 
Department, but when 
thought of investigators, she thought of the 
FBI. 
thought there was someone serving papers at 
had told 
to leave through the back door. 
overheard 
and EPSTEIN on the plane talking about 
visited by investigators. Knowing what 
knows now, 
told EPSTEIN that someone was asking questions. 
flight back from 
and went back to MAXWELL's office. 
to 
was not approached by investigators. 
di not reca 
I 
talking about the investigation. 
asked 
if she met someone, whose name 
could 
was one of the younger females. 
did not meet people 
did not remember EPSTEIN specifically talking about 
and EPSTEIN told 
she needed to go to 
told her someone would be serving her papers at her 
should not be there to be served. 
was 
going on. 
thought she was 
booked a flight to 
, asking where she was, and 
EPSTEIN went off on 
being 
thought 
took the next 
went back 
in approximately 2006. 
thought EPSTEIN 
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was going to beat her or kill her. EPSTEIN's hands were on the door frame 
and his knuckles were white with spit coming out of his mouth. EPSTEIN's 
face looked like it was going to explode. 
was in a ball on the floor 
when MAXWELL came down and told her to get up. 
felt safe around 
MAXWELL at that time and wanted to work for her. 
was at a London restaurant with EPSTEIN when she asked to go to the 
bathroom and called her boyfriend. 
was going to 
to see her 
boyfriend. EPSTEIN thought she disrespected him by calling her boyfriend. 
EPSTEIN had asked RON BURKLE to buy him a coke. EPSTEIN then came out and 
yelled at 
wanted to work for MAXWELL so she still had a job. This was around 
December 2007. Sometimes, EPSTEIN still wanted to see her. MAXWELL would 
tell 
that EPSTEIN wanted to see her. This was at least a handful of 
times. MAXWELL told 
"I told him it's ok with me if it's ok with you" 
when referring to EPSTEIN seeing 
. It was ok for 
to leave the 
office while working to go and see EPSTEIN. 
could not say no. 
would see EPSTEIN at his New York residence generally in the massage room. 
There was one time where 
went to the doctor's office with EPSTEIN. 
When 
saw EPSTEIN, it was sexual encounters. 
did not have 
conversations with MAXWELL about what happened when she went to see 
EPSTEIN. 
felt that it was common knowledge that MAXWELL knew. 
felt that this was separate from the responsibilities she had for MAXWELL. 
EPSTEIN gave 
cash afterwards, but when 
payroll she did not think EPSTEIN gave her cash. 
was no longer on his 
MAXWELL tried to separate herself from EPSTEIN. Up to that point it was 
always EPSTEIN's people and accountants who did things for MAXWELL. Then it 
switched to WAITT's people. 
understood it to be that MAXWELL wanted 
to distance herself from EPSTEIN. 
MAXWELL would hide it when she saw EPSTEIN. There was one time where 
thought MAXWELL was traveling with WAITT but had gone to EPSTEIN's 
island instead. 
Back when EPSTEIN first went to jail, 
was kind of relieved. 
When EPSTEIN was on work release, MAXWELL told her that help was needed 
in the office answering phones. 
went to Florida and saw EPSTEIN when 
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he was on work release. 
remembered having to sign in with a plain 
clothed sheriff. 
thought it was 
or 
also present, then 
said that it would not have been 
recalled 
made the 
bed. 
remembered thinking "at that point it was like fuck". Everyone 
had left and the sheriff was gone. This happened a couple times. There was 
one time when 
was there and EPSTEIN again tried to get 
to have a 
threesome with them. 
recalled that the sexual encounters happened at 
least twice. 
recalled a time where 
folded out the sofa and put 
the sheet down. The other time would have been when 
was there. 
went back to New York to work for MAXWELL. 
thought EPSTEIN had asked her to go to the movies with him. 
EPSTEIN was nice to 
sometimes. It was like a "teeter totter" with 
EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN tried a couple times after he was released to see 
The last time 
saw EPSTEIN was in or around 2012 in the Virgin 
Islands when EPSTEIN was hosting a science convention. When EPSTEIN tried 
to turn it sexual, 
for the rest of the trip. 
thought it was approximately three days. 
EPSTEIN gave 
money. 
shut down. EPSTEIN stopped and did not talk to her 
an iPad on her birthday. EPSTEIN also gave 
started on MAXWELL's payroll in approximately 
was MAXWELL's assistant. 
was responsible for MAkrua,k•s casenua and 
setting up travel. MAXWELL hung on with EPSTEIN to pay her for as long as 
possible before moving to WAITT's payroll. 
stayed on MAXWELL's 
payroll until around 
described that MAXWELL could be charming but also have a two year 
old tantrum in a grown adult body. 
recalled a time drinking wine with 
MAXWELL when MAXWELL told her, "When you walk into a room people don't know 
you're there", then MAXWELL would go back to talking about herself. 
described her relationship with MAXWELL as being a love/hate relationship. 
husband would tell her that if she did not like working for MAXWELL 
to leave. 
felt that working for MAXWELL was her only option as she 
did not go to school or feel like she had other skills. 
Some of 
responsibilities included keeping track of MAXWELL's 
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calendar, her travels, and helping with interior decorating. When MAXWELL's 
houseman left, 
became responsible for house repairs, including 
changing the hot water filters, carrying the ladder, fixing faucets, etc. 
MAXWELL had "God awful dogs" that went to the bathroom everywhere so 
had to clean up after them. The dogs were show dogs so 
also had to 
manage their schedule. 
asked MAXWELL how she made her money and MAXWELL told her from the 
stock market. 
knew MAXWELL's bank accounts and knew that she switched 
her accounts and moved money to SCOTT BORGERSON. MAXWELL moved money during 
the defamation suit with 
. MAXWELL said 
was a 
liar. MAXWELL was super stressed and awful to 
. MAXWELL told 
said she had sex with me". 
thou ht MAXWELL was trying to 
fish for information. 
had never met 
was served a 
subpoena. When she told MAXWELL, MAXWELL got 
a lawyer. MAXWELL told 
she did not remember the stuff about 
could tell 
MAXWELL knew because MAXWELL deflects. 
could tell from MAXWELL's body 
movements and could tell that MAXWELL was feeling threatened. 
recalled EPSTEIN saying he sent someone to Thailand, but 
did not think 
EPSTEIN said 
name when referring to who he sent. 
MAXWELL transferred money to BORGERSON's name. There were rental 
apartments in Boston. MAXWELL was paying for that year up front. 
worked from home and occasionally went to Manchester when MAXWELL and 
BORGERSON bought the house there. 
thought it was MAXWELL's money and 
MAXWELL and BORGERSON's house together. MAXWELL was getting new 
accountants. MAXWELL and BORGERSON bought an apartment in Boston; 
had 
not been to that apartment. 
When asked if 
knew about MAXWELL being married, 
responded "it 
has to be Scott". MAXWELL spoke about getting married. 
thought 
MAXWELL may have gotten married in Holland or somewhere in that area where 
there would be no public record of it. MAXWELL never told 
did 
see in an email where BORGERSON referred to MAXWELL as "Mrs. Borgerson". 
WAITT nor EPSTEIN wanted to marry MAXWELL. MAXWELL is a private person and 
the media was relentless. 
MAXWELL fired 
MAXWELL made it clear that she had to be number 
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one. MAXWELL called 
and heard the baby crying, telling 
"shut 
that baby up". 
nd 
MAXWELL told her she 
was the answer to all of 
everything 
did. 
lost a reservation for MAXWELL. When 
told MAXWELL that it was ok and 
worked out, MAXWELL asked "oh you didn't find cheaper". MAXWELL was paying 
a lot in legal fees, while also paying for her nephew's school, so 
was 
fired. 
MAXWELL sent to BORGERSON with 
MAXWELL gave the note to BORGERSON. When 
o check her calendar, she saw an email 
in which MAXWELL said it 
"fuck ups". MAXWELL found blame in 
recalled a hotel switched computer systems and 
KATIE VON EDWARDS was MAXWELL's London assistant. MAXWELL had VON 
EDWARDS call 
to smooth things over. 
When 
was asked if anyone told her to lie or cover up, she said 
"no". 
When 
was not around, IIII would schedule massages for EPSTEIN. 
was told that MAXWELL approached both 
Beach asking them if they wanted to answer phones. 
and min 
Palm 
had to do what EPSTEIN and MAXWELL said because she did not want to 
piss them off or get fired. 
introduced a roommate she had in New York. 
brought 
who lived in Palm Beach, to meet EPSTEIN. 
found out online that he 
had touched her breasts. 
also had a friend who was pregnant and 
introduced her to EPSTEIN in Boston, but not for a massage. 
In or around 2005, 
was with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL on Zorro Ranch. 
They had gone to an outdoor market when MAXWELL lifted 
skirt 
multiple times. MAXWELL was laughing while 
was mortified and 
uncomfortable. 
MAXWELL talked about sex all the time. MAXWELL would talk about sex in 
general conversations. When 
was asked if MAXWELL made sexual comments 
about EPSTEIN, 
replied "I'm sure she did". 
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asked her friend who had introduced her to EPSTEIN if she would be 
willing to speak with law enforcement, and her friend will not talk. 
friend was 
friend and MAXWELL were on 
treadmills when MAXWELL said that she should stay in New York. 
After 
was no longer on MAXWELL's payroll, she had to help clear out 
a storage unit and sort out accounts. MAXWELL sometimes emailed 
and 
would respond. On Memorial Day in 2020, MAXWELL called 
saying, 
"I'm just calling to tell you I'm alive". MAXWELL was being her charming 
self. MAXWELL told 
she was learning boxing and could "punch a nose on 
a bee". MAXWELL asked 
what she was doing but MAXWELL did not care as 
she was just making small talk. 
MAXWELL has an AMEX account. MAXWELL used 
social security number 
to add a card to MAXWELL's account. 
learned of this when she was 
trying to open a new utility account in 
and she was asked what address she had in Massachusetts. 
trace it to 
a UPS address in Boston. 
called MAXWELL to confront her. MAXWELL 
told 
that there was something wrong with her credit. 
told AMEX 
that she thought it was her boss. On the card MAXWELL opened was "G 
MAXWELL". 
While MAXWELL was in Massachusetts, she went by a different name. 
"JENNIFER TURNER" was MAXWELL's name of choice. Sometimes MAXWELL used "G 
Max". Sometimes MAXWELL would go into a store and give 
name. 
spoke to MAXWELL after EPSTEIN's arrest in 2019 and also after his 
death. MAXWELL had called 
. After EPSTEIN's arrest, MAXWELL told 
that she hated EPSTEIN. MAXWELL called and stated, "you wereilliwhen 
you met Jeffrey...oh well I'm sorry whatever you did". 
knew MAXWELL 
did not mean it because it was just something she said. 
thought 
MAXWELL was running from the media. 
changed her number because she 
was receiving calls nonstop. 
did not know where MAXWELL was. 
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