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Page Q. Can you describe it for me? 2 A. It was big. I want to say it was a pinkish 3 color. 4 Q. When you say, "it was big," we're on video so 5 you can actually show us with your hands. What are we 6 talking about in size here? 7 A. Size, about that long (indicating). 8 Q. Okay. And shape? 9 A. I wouldn't really know how to describe the 10 shape. 11 Q. Tubular? 12 MR. CRITTON: Form. 13 BY MR. 14 Q. Like a bottle? 15 A. Similar to a bottle. 16 Q. Did it resemble a part of the human anatomy at 17 all? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Did it resemble a part of the male anatomy? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Sorry I got to ask you, but did it resemble a 22 man's penis? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. And did it have a plug attached to it? 25 A. I can't remember. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1188f113-5663-4dad44.7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 61 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O94407 EFTA01248067
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Page 62 Q. Do you know what I mean when I say, "a plug?" 2 In other words, was it one that would plug in or was it 3 battery operated, if you know? 4 A. I don't know. 5 Q. But, nonetheless, you saw that in the drawer 6 with the oils? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. Did you see any other massage devices in that 9 drawer with the oils at that point? 10 A. No. 11 Q. Okay. What did you think when you saw that? 12 A. I don't remember. 13 Q. At this point after you've set up the massage 14 table, she shows you the oils and you see that type of 15 thing in the drawer, are you nervous now? 16 A. I don't remember. 17 Q. What happens next? 18 A. Jeffrey walks in the room. 19 Q. Describe him for me that first time that you 20 saw him. 21 A. I don't remember. 22 Q. Was he fully clothed? 23 A. I can't remember. 24 Q. What happens when he walks in? 25 A. He walks in, introduces himself, lays on the (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1f88f113.5663-4dad-94e7.500b7174075 3501.182-102 Page 62 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O.94408 EFTA01248068
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Page • 1 table. 2 Q. When he lays on the table, was he undressed? 3 A. He's covered. 4 Q. Okay. When you say, "covered," are you 5 talking from the waist down covered? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. One towel? Big towel? Small towel? How is 8 he covered? 9 A. A towel. I don't know the size. 10 Q. Okay. Could you still see his legs? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And does leave the room at this point? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. What happens next? 15 A. I start giving him a massage. 16 Q. Are you clothed? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Before leaves, does she discuss anything 19 with you about your clothes; in other words, taking them 20 off, leaving them on, anything like that? 21 A. No. 22 Q. When Mr. Epstein comes in the room for the 23 first time that time, does he say anything to you othe:. 24 than hello? 25 A. No. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4ded-Sile7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 63 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_0MMI409 EFTA01248069
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Page 64 Q. Does he discuss with you before he lays down 2 anything about your clothing? 3 A. Not that I can remember. 4 Q. At this point you're 16 years old? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. Or 15? 7 A. Sixteen. 8 Q. You're in a bathroom alone with a man who'. 9 got a towel over himself and you're giving him a 10 massage. 11 (Brief interruption.) 12 BY MR. 13 Q. Sorry for the interruption. 14 At this point you're 16. You're in a bathroom 15 alone with a man you'd never met before who's 16 essentially naked but for a towel and you're giving him 17 a massage. Are you nervous? 18 A. I don't know. 19 Q. What happens next? 20 A. I start massaging him. We're talking, 21 conversating. 22 Q. About what? 23 A. Life. 24 Q. Like? 25 A. School, family. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1188f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 64 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O94410 EFTA01248070
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Page 65 Q. Did you tell him you were in high school? 2 MR. CRITTON: Form. 3 THE WITNESS: No. 4 BY MR. 5 Q. You were talking about school. What are you 6 talking about? 7 A. I didn't specify. a Q. At that point does he ask you how old you are: 9 A. No. I voluntarily tell him I'm 18. 10 Q. You told him at that point? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And that was obviously not true? 13 A. That was not true. 14 Q. What happens next? 15 A. We're still massaging. I'm still conversating 16 with him. 17 Q. Okay. Next? 18 A. I'm sorry. Next, my skirt comes off and I'm 19 still clothed, but I'm in my thong giving him a massage. 20 He tries to touch me. I refuse and I don't let it 21 happen. And then the massage ends and before it ends, 22 he -- he masturbates. 23 Q. While you're still in the room? 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. Does he take the towel off to do this? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 65 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_ONYM411 EFTA01248071
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Page 66 A. Yes. 2 Q. Do you see him? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. All right. At that point what are you 5 thinking? 6 A. I don't remember what I was thinking. 7 Q. Now, it's obviously upsetting to you today. 8 And as I mentioned at the beginning, I'm sorry I have to 9 go through these questions, but you had gone there 10 voluntarily, right? 11 A. That's correct. 12 Q. And you told him you were 18? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Why is it upsetting to you still? 15 MR. CRITTON: Form. 16 THE WITNESS: Because I now know what I was 17 doing was wrong and I have so much regret for it. 18 BY MR. 19 Q. Do you think you didn't realize the full 20 extent of what was going on at that time? 21 MR. CRITTON: Form. 22 BY MR. 23 Q. Let me ask it this way: Given your age of 16 24 at the time and looking back on it now, do you think you 25 fully realized what you were getting yourself into? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1188f113-5663-4dad44.7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 66 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000W1412 EFTA01248072
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Page MR. CRITTON: Form. 2 THE WITNESS: I don't think I'll ever realize 3 what I was getting myself into. I still don't know 4 what I was thinking. 5 BY MR. 6 Q. Now that you're in your twenties, do you fee_ 7 a little bit smarter about decisions you may make in 8 your life? 9 A. Yes. 10 MR. CRITTON: Form. 11 BY MR. 12 Q. You think that comes with age? 13 MR. CRITTON: Form. 14 THE WITNESS: Yes. 15 BY MR. 16 Q. Okay. All right. After this all occurs, what 17 happens next? 18 A. After the massage, I go downstairs. I ge- 19 paid. We leave. 20 Q. Who pays you? 21 A. I can't remember. 22 Q. Do you remember if the money came from 23 or Tony or whether it came from one of 24 Mr. Epstein's people, like or someone else? 25 A. Definitely not one of his people, but I (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1f88f113.5663.4dad-94e7 3501.182-102 Page 67 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O.94413 EFTA01248073
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Page 68 1 can't -- I can't be accurate. I don't know. 2 Q. Okay. You mentioned that the skirt came off. 3 Did you take it off or did he? 4 A. I did. 5 Q. Why? 6 A. I don't know. 7 Q. Did he ask you to? 8 A. I don't remember. 9 Q. Did your top come off at any point during 10 this? 11 A. I don't remember. 12 Q. You said that he tried to touch you and you 13 stopped him, correct? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. Where did he try to touch you? 16 A. Below the belt. 17 Q. Did he try to touch you in the front or in the 18 back? 19 A. 20 Q. 21 A. 22 Q. 23 A. 24 Q. 25 A. In the front. At this point your skirt was off, correct? Yes. Underwear was still on? Yes. Regular type underwear? Thong type underwear? Thong. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad44.7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 68 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000.94414 EFTA01248074
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Page 69 Q. All right. Does he finish before you get 2 dressed or do you get dressed and then he finishes what. 3 he's doing? 4 A. I don't remember. 5 Q. At some point though you get dressed and go 6 downstairs? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. How do you know how to get downstairs? Does 9 somebody meet you up outside the room and guide you down 10 or you just know where to go? 11 A. I don't remember. 12 Q. Does he say anything to you after he finishes? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. What? 15 A. He told me that if I can bring my friends, 16 that for every girl that I bring to him he would pay me 17 $200. 18 Q. What do you think of that at that point? 19 A. At that point, I don't know. 20 Q. All right. When you go downstairs are 21 and Tony waiting for you? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Are they waiting in the kitchen? 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. Do you talk to them about what happened? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 69 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094415 EFTA01248075
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Page A. I don't remember. 2 Q. Do you all get in your pickup to leave at some 3 point? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. When you come downstairs and meet them in tilt- 6 kitchen, do you get the money and then immediately go or 7 do you stick around at all? 8 A. We don't stick around. We go. 9 Q. How long does this entire encounter occur? In 10 other words, we're talking about from the time when you 11 pull up to the house to the time that you leave, is it 12 approximately an hour? Two hours? Three hours? 13 A. Approximately an hour. 14 Q. When you all get in the truck to leave, at any 15 point do you have a conversation with Tony and 16 III about what had just happened? 17 A. I don't remember. 18 Q. Were you in any state of shock at that point? 19 MR. CRITTON: Form. 20 THE WITNESS: I don't remember. 21 BY MR. 22 Q. This next question your attorney is going to 23 object to, so I don't want you to say anything until she 24 says objection or not. 25 Is this the first sexual experience that you (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 70 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_0MM416 EFTA01248076
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Page 1 had ever had in your life? 2 MS. : Predicate. Relevance. Privacy. 3 Do not answer that question. 4 BY MR. 5 Q. Same thing. Is this the first sexual 6 experience you had in your life with a man that was not 7 close to your age? 8 MS. : Same objection. 9 Do not answer. 10 BY MR. 11 Q. When you got to the house and saw Mr. Epstein 12 for the first time, could you give us an idea on how old 13 he looked; in other words, what age you thought he was, 14 approximately? 15 A. Late forties, early fifties. 16 Q. Okay. Clearly not your age? 17 A. Clearly. 18 MR. CRITTON: Form. 19 BY MR. 20 Q. Your age being 16? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. All right. After that first time, you leave 23 and get in the car with and Tony, are you 24 driving? 25 A. Yes. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 71 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000.94417 EFTA01248077
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Page 72 Q. 2 you go? 9 10 11 12 13 what you did with it? 14 15 Q. 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 next time. 23 24 25 Do you drop them back off somewhere? Where do 3 A. I don't remember. 4 Q. You got paid $200? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. Cash? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. What do you do with it? A. Shopping. Q. Where did you go? A. I don't remember. Q. Do you remember what you went shopping for o.c A. I don't. I can't recall. When you leave the house, do you all go somewhere in between taking and Tony home; in other words, do you go to eat, do you go to a store, anything like that, that you can remember doing or do you just go and take them home? A. I really can't recall. Q. All right. Let's talk about now the -- the What's the next time that anything occurs where you are going to go to Mr. Epstein's house or you hear anything about Jeffrey? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-94.7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 72 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_ONYM1418 EFTA01248078
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Page A. Is when I brought a girl over. 2 Q. Okay. How did you know to do that? Was it 3 the conversation you had in the room with him that first 4 time? 5 A. -- I had exchanged my number with 6 Q. Okay. 7 A. And I don't know how we came into contact 8 after that day, but the next time was with a woman, a 9 girl. 10 Q. Okay. So at some point you gave your phone 11 number to 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. Was it -- that before or after you had gone in 14 the room for the massage with Jeffrey? 15 A. I don't remember. 16 Q. Was it before you left the house that day; in 17 other words -- 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. -- did you call her and give her the number or 20 did you just give it to her in person when you were 21 there? 22 A. Yes, I gave it to her in person. 23 Q. Okay. And did she call you about getting 24 another girl for Jeffrey or did you call her that first. 25 time? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 73 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0OW1419 EFTA01248079
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Page 1 A. I don't remember. 2 Q. Who was the first girl that you brought over 3 to Jeffrey's house? 4 A. I don't know. 5 Q. How many girls ultimately did you bring over 6 to Jeffrey's house? 7 A. Maybe a dozen. 8 Q. Why? 9 A. I don't know. I don't know. 10 Q. For the money? 11 MR. CRITTON: Form. 12 THE WITNESS: I don't know. 13 BY MR. 14 Q. Looking back on it, bad decision? 15 MR. CRITTON: Form. 16 THE WITNESS: Yes. 17 BY MR. 18 Q. You regret doing it? 19 A. Yes. 20 MR. CRITTON: Form. 21 BY MR. 22 Q. Why? 23 A. It's consumed so much of my life. 24 Q. Thinking about the other girls for a moment, 25 you think it was a bad decision bringing them over? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 74 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094420 EFTA01248080
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Page MR. CRITTON: Form. 2 THE WITNESS: Yes. 3 BY MR. 4 Q. Why? 5 A. I wouldn't be in this position if I didn't. 6 Q. Do you think it was harmful to them at all? 7 A. I don't know. 8 MR. CRITTON: Form. 9 BY MR. 10 Q. Did you think about them at any point? 11 A. No. 12 Q. How it may affect them or their lives? 13 A. Nope. 14 Q. How about today? 15 MR. CRITTON: Form. 16 THE WITNESS: Yes. 17 BY MR. 18 Q. What do you think? 19 MR. CRITTON: Form. 20 THE WITNESS: I don't know what to think. 21 BY MR. 22 Q. Do you think it may have negatively affected 23 those girls that you brought over? 24 MR. CRITTON: Form. 25 THE WITNESS: I don't know. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401377476-2895) (561) 832-7506 1f88f113-5663-4ded-Sile7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 75 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O.94421 EFTA01248081
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Page 1 BY MR. 2 Q. Obviously it's bothered you even today, 3 correct? 4 A. Yes. 5 MR. CRITTON: Form. 6 BY MR. 7 Q. Think it was a bad decision for you? 8 MR. CRITTON: Form. 9 MS. : Asked and answered as well, 10 several times. 11 THE WITNESS: Yes. 12 BY MR. 13 Q. Equally was bad for them? 14 MR. CRITTON: Form. 15 THE WITNESS: I don't know. 16 BY MR. 17 Q. Okay. Do you remember the names of the 18 approximately 12 girls that you brought over? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. Let's go through them. 21 A. 22 Another girl named II 23 Q. 24 A. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm having -- 25 Q. It's okay. (5611 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 76 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA J30O94422 EFTA01248082
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Page Who else? 2 A. That's all I can remember right now. 3 Q. Okay. How soon after that first time that you 4 went over did you bring the first girl over with you? 5 A. Days. 6 Q. How did you explain to that first girl what 7 she was going to be getting into or what she was going 8 to do? 9 A. Same way I was explained. 10 Q. Did you explain to that girl that she might 11 have to get undressed or did you leave that out? 12 A. No, I didn't say that. 13 Q. You left that part of it out? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. Why? 16 A. I don't know. 17 Q. Think it would have been harder to convince a 18 girl to go over to the house if they knew they might 19 have to get naked? 20 A. I don't know. 21 MR. CRITTON: Form. 22 BY MR. 23 Q. Would you have gone over that first time III 24 told you that you might have to take your clothes off? 25 MR. CRITTON: Form. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 77 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_O0O.94423 EFTA01248083
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Page THE WITNESS: I don't know. 2 BY MR. 3 Q. All right. But nonetheless you left that part 4 out when you explained to the first girl about what was 5 going to happen, correct? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. And that first girl that you explained this 8 thing to, did you tell her she was going to make money 9 going over there for a massage? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. Did you tell her that it was an older man that 12 lived on the Island? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Did you tell her it was a rich billionaire 15 that lived on the Island? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. You don't remember that first girl's name or 18 which one that was? 19 A. No, I do not. 20 Q. The girls that you brought over to Jeffrey's 21 home, 12-some-odd girls, were all of them under the age 22 of 18? 23 A. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? 24 Q. Yeah. The 12-some-odd girls that you brought 25 over to Jeffrey's house, were they all under the age of (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-SW-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 78 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTAJOIMM424 EFTA01248084
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18? 2 A. No. 3 Q. You brought an older girl over in her -- 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. -- twenties, right? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. What was her name? 8 A. 9 Q. How did you know 10 A. Through her brother. 11 Q. And was about what? -- 23? 24? 12 A. I believe 23. 13 Q. Okay. After you brought over, what did 14 Jeffrey say about her? 15 A. She was old. 16 Q. Did he tell you what he meant by that? 17 A. No. 18 Q. What did you take that to mean? 19 MR. CRITTON: Form. 20 THE WITNESS: That she was old. 21 BY MR. 22 Q. Did you get the impression that Jeffrey wanted 23 girls that were about your age; in other words, around 24 16 years old? 25 MR. CRITTON: Form. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7 3501.182-102 Page 79 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_OMM425 EFTA01248085
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Page 80 1 THE WITNESS: I don't understand that 2 question. 3 BY MR. 4 Q. Other than , had you brought any girls 5 over that were in their twenties? 6 A. No. 7 Q. Was she the only girl that you can remember 8 bringing over that was over the age of 18? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. So all the other girls that you brought over 11 were how old? I mean, what was the youngest? Wail' 12 the youngest? 13 A. II was the youngest. 14 Q. She was how old? 15 A. Fourteen. 16 Q. Fourteen the first time you brought her over, 17 correct? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. And you knewIll through your cousin? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Okay. So you were bringing girls over from 22 age 14 to age 17, right? 23 MR. CRITTON: Form. 24 THE WITNESS: Yes. 25 BY MR. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 80 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094426 EFTA01248086