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family at the current time? 
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helps us. 
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Q. How much does she help you with a month? 
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A. Before now she didn't need to help us, but 
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since= (phonetic) has lost his job in the last 
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three weeks, she's helped us. 
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MR. CRITTON: I'm going to adjourn for today 
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because of the time. It's about a quarter to 6:00. 
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And I can tell you this, that — 'have not gone 
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into all of the different events at Mr. Epstein's 
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home, because she was there some 20 times. So 
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those are areas that I intend to go into. I think 
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I can probably complete the deposition in another 
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hour and a half to three hours, max. 
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And there are some other areas that I — you 
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know, if 1 could — and we've been going pretty 
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steadily, at a pretty good clip. So if I could 
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take some time, I — and can think about my 
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thoughts, I'll try to make it even faster than that 
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at the next session. 
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MR EDWARDS: Well, Tm not going to agree to 
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it. We're going to have to have some discussion 
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with the Court as to whether or not this deposition 
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is going to be completed on another date. I 
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provided her here at 9:30. I had her here for the 
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I'm on the record. 
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COURT REPORTER: Okay. 
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MR. CRITTON: Did you not get any of that? 
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COURT REPORTER: I have it just... 
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VIDEOGRAPHER: You'll be able to get it 
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later. 
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MR. EDWARDS: I -- I remember what he said. 
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Don't worry about it. 
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER; He said, on the 
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record. He said, on the record, so 1 flamed --
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COURT REPORTER: Ill check the video. 
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MR. CRITTON: All right. 
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Clear — clearly, the 
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Court Reporter's tired. 
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COURT REPORTER: Well -- well, I said 
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something to you about l was starting okay. 
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This is — 
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: All right. 
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COURT REPORTER: We're back on, and III —
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: But you got it? 
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COURT REPORTER: And I got it. * CHECK ALL. 
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MR. CRITTON: All right. So we spent eight 
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hours with chap, who was there for eight months 
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and — with — with the various lawyers in that. 
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So this is a young lady who claims that she was at 
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seven hours, and I think that ru be able to 
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demonstrate to the Court that many of the questions 
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were redundant, asked and answered over and over 
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and over again. And we're here, ready to complete 
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the deposition. If you want to (hush it, we'll 
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finish it. If you think that you will prevail at 
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that hearing and you're going to come back another 
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time, that's up to you. 
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MR. CRITTON: All right. Well, let's take a 
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break for a few minutes, and m decide what I 
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want to do. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Okay. 
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VIDEDDRAPHER: Off the record at 5:48. 
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(Discussion held off the record.) 
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MR. CRITTON: I'll put on the record, when 
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I've finished my 15 minutes of the additional areas 
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that I would like to cover with her. And we can go 
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to the Court on those particular issues. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Alined. 
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MR. CRITTON: And, you know we spent seven 
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hours — almost eight hours with 
— fm saying 
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in a 
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deposition in Federal Court. And Mr. 
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worked for Mr. Epstein for a period of six to eight 
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months. This is a --
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Mr. Epstein's house 20 times — well, I'll get to 
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that later, so let me get to where I'm going, and 
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MR. EDWARDS: Sounds like a good idea. 
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MR. CRITTON: Thank you. 
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BY MR. CRT-ETON: 
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Q. Ms. Jane Doe, what did you do, if anything —
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and I don't want to know what conversations you had with 
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your lawyer -- to prepare for this deposition today, if 
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anything? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 
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Attorney/client. 
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MR. CRITTON: No, I don't want to know what 
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your discussions were. I want to know what -- what 
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did you — 
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MR. EDWARDS: Maybe I missed your question. 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. What did you do to prepare for this 
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deposition, if anything, other than converse with your 
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attorney? 
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A. I went to bed early. I don't know. 
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Q. Did you make any notes? 
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A. I read through the questions that I answered. 
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Q. The interrogatories? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. Excuse me. Did you review any notes that you 
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bad made about any of your experiences at Mr. Epstein's 
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home? 
A. No, I've never made any notes. 
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Q. Have you ever written out — well, let me 
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gram that 
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Did you review a copy of your complaint? 
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A. No. 
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Q. Okay. Have you ever seen your complaint? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. And do you know what you're asking for in the 
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way of damages in your complaint? 
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A. Not exactly. 
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Q. Okay. Your complaint says you want 
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S50 million. What's the basis for that claim? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 
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THE WITNESS: Pretty much just to hurt 
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Jeffrey Epstein. 
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Q. Okay. Not to compensate yourself, but just 
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to hurt Jeffrey Epstein; is that correct? 
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A. Pretty much. 
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Q. When you said you realized some of your 
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answers to the interrogatories were incorrect, when did 
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you discover that? 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. And did you say it after you read them? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. And who did you say whatever you said to 
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about some of the answers being incorrect, who did you 
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say that to? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Objection. Attorney/client 
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privilege — 
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MR. CRITTON: Okay. 
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MR. EDWARDS: — as to who within my firm 
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she's talking about, now that you're already 
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discussing the substance about — of the 
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conversation. 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. Well, you said that you realized some of the 
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answers were wrong, so you called somebody. And I don't 
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want to know what happened or what erartly you said, but 
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you spoke to someone at Mr. Edwards' rum; is that 
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correct? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. And that was a number of months ago; true? 
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A. I'm not I'm not sure when it was. 
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Q. If you — you testified —
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A. It was — it was at least a month ago. 
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Q. Let me show you what I'll mark as Exhibit 
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A. I'm not exactly sure. 
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Q. Wash yesterday? Was it today? Was it a 
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month ago? Was it six months ago? 
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A. 1 probably noticed whenever I first got the 
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copy of it 
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Q. Which was what, shortly after it was signed 
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on January 23rd of '09? 
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A. I'm not sure if I have a copy of it, but I 
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know that I looked over it, and we talked about it 
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having some wrong answers. 
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Q. And that was months ago? 
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A. Not exactly sure how long ago it was. 
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Q. Well, it wasn't yesterday; was it? 
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A. We did look at it yesterday and talk about 
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it, but... 
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Q. But you realized the — some of the answers 
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were incorrect when you got it sometime in January or 
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early February of this year, when you got a copy of it; 
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is that correct? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. A copy of Exhibit 6? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: I know that 1 — I did say 
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something about some of the answers. 
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Number 7, Composite Exhibit 7. 
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(Defendants Composite Exhibit No. 7 was 
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matted for identification.) 
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MR. CRITTON: Here's an extra copy, Brad. 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q Have you seen a copy of the letter which is 
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dated March 10, 2009, that I sent to Mr. Edwards before 
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today? 
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A. I don't know. 
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Q. I'm sorry? 
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A. I don't know. 
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Q. Well, the letter was sent in March of 2009. 
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Are you saying that you, now having read the letter, it 
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doesn't — you don't recall whether you saw that? 
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A. No. 
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Q. No, you don't recall one way or the other? 
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A. No, I do not recall. 
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Q. Okay. Turn — flip the page. There was a 
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document — the letter is and just so the record is 
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clear I'm enclosing a proposal for settlement in 
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order to resolve the action which has been filed by your 
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client. And then attached — and that's paraphrasing — 
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attached to the letter is a proposal of settlement, sent 
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by Mr. Epstein to you, in the amount of $45,000, plus 
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$5,000 for attorney's fees. 
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Were you aware sometime in March of '09 that 
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you were offered $45,000 to resolve the case? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. Okay. And did you understand that — that 
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if, in fact, Mr. Epstein comes back and gets an award of 
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a sum something less than $45,000, say $30,000, or 
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you're not successful in getting a judgment in excess of 
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35 — 30,000, $32,000, that you'll be responsible — or 
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you may be responsible for all of Mr. Epstein's 
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attorneys fees and coats that were incurred after the 
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proposal for settlement? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form. 
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Q. That is that Mr. Epstein can get a judgment 
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against you, maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars, are 
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you aware of that fact? 
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A. No. 
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Q. Okay. And do you know that that will be 
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against you for your entire life until you pay that off? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form. 
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THE WrrNESS: No. 
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MR. HILL: How is that reasonably calculated 
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to lead to admissible evidence? 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. Ms. Jane Doe, we've talked about the first 
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the Court's order said that we could, if 
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appropriate, go longer than seven hours. There are 
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a number of additional areas that I want to cover 
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with your client, including some background 
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information that was not disclosed in her answers 
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to interrogatories that I've not yet gotten to. 
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I'd like to go into the other visits that she 
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had with Mr. Epstein, that is who she saw, what 
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occurred, both by her and with Mr. Epstein, and 
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anyone else who may have been present at the time. 
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1 want to review the various counts of the 
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complaint with her, separate and apart from the 
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allegations of the various visits. 
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There's some other background — family 
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background information I want to cover with her, 
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and I want to cover with her any other areas of 
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which she may have knowledge regarding witnesses.
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including with regard to either 
issues, 
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issue, or potentially other indiviarrla s who are 
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Plaintiffs in this case. 
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There are some other additional, as I said, 
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family background that I wish to explore, as well 
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as the medical records, which I have not yet had an 
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opportunity to dist, KS with her, which we obtained, 
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and her school records. 
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time you went to Mr. Epstein's house and, I believe, the 
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second time you went to Mr. Epstein's house; correct? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form-
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THE WITNESS: Yes. 
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Q. Okay. And you've testified that you went to 
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Mr. Epstein's house another approximately 18 times; is 
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that correct? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. All right. And we have not discussed any of 
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those events, at least as of this point today; have we? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: I {mow that I have told you 
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that every time I ever went to his house, he 
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touched me, and I gave him a massage. 
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BY MR. CRITTON: 
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Q. Okay. But we talked about that generally; we 
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haven't gone into each detail as to when the event 
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occurred or what occurred at each of those massages; 
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have we — other than what you generally have told me; 
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correct? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: Cornea 
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MR. CRITTON: Pm going to adjourn the 
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deposition now. It is about five after 6:00, and 
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My best estimate for the time for completing 
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her deposition is approximately two and half to 
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three hours. If I can do it in a more reasonable 
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or a quicker fashion, twill certainly do that. 
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And as I advised you, Brad, I am going out of 
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town on Friday. I'm in the process of moving my 
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house. It's supposed to occur on Monday or Tuesday 
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of next week. We — it is now, as I said, 
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6 o'clock. We started about a little before 
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10 o'clock today. I think that the request is not 
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unreasonable, and I will also have opportunity to 
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have reviewed the transcript, so that I'm not —
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that I don't ask duplicative questions or retread 
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some area that we've already covered that I think 
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has been PI opt, ly covered. 
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As I indicated earlier is we spent almost 
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eight hours with a person named 
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a house manager for Mr. Epstein or approximately 
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six months, who was, I'd say, a small-time player. 
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And this is a young lady who is seeking 
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extensive damages, whose — damages in excess of 
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$50 million for both compensatory and punitive 
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damages. And I think we have a right to fully 
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explore. It's certainly not the intent to harass, 
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intimidate or to cause her any undue stress. I'll 
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be glad to work out a time that works for both you 
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and Ms. Jane Doe. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Just so that it is clear, we 
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we will not be in agreement to your proposal. I 
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wrote down the various areas you intend to go into. 
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Every single one of them was covered. I will be 
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able to point to those areas in the transcript when 
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we have a hearing on this matter. 
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As you pointed out earlier, Mr. Critton, the 
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seven-hour time limit was relieved by way of the 
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consolidation order, and it was done in the context 
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of depositions that are going to require multiple 
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attorneys — because there are so many attorneys 
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involved in this ultimate litigation — multiple 
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attorneys to ask questions of a particular witness 
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whose deposition
 to exceed seven hours, 
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such as Mr. la 
who was asked questions by 
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all seven or eight attorneys. This witness is 
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being asked questions by one attorney. That was 
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not the intent of the Court's order, and I think 
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that Judge Marra is going to have to rude on that 
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issue again. Every single one of the issues that 
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CERTIFICATE OF OATH 
THE STATE OF FLORIDA 
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH 
1, the undersigned authority, certify that 
JANE DOE personally appeared before me and was duly 
sworn. 
Dated this 13th day of October, 2009. 
Pamela J. Sullivan, RPR, 
Notary Public - State of Flon 
My Commission Expires: June 10, 2010 
My Commission No.: DD 560380 
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proposals for settlement, which you know are not 
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admissible, nor reasonably calculated to lead to 
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admissible evidence, and you did that at your own 
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peril. And so, if we are going to resume any 
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deposition of Jane Doe, then it will be by way of 
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court order. 
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CERTIFICATE 
THESTATEOF FLORIDA 
COUNlY OF PALM BEACH 
I, Pamela J. Sullivan, Reclaimed Prolessienal 
Cant Reporter and Nola, Public in and for the State of 
Florida at lint, do hereby certify that I was 
authorized to and did report said deposition in 
stenotype, and that the foregoing pages are a true and 
correct transcription of my shorthand notes of said 
deposition 
I further certify that said deposition ins taken at 
the time and place hereinabove set forth and tint the 
taking of said deposition was commenced and completed as 
hereinabove set out 
IBM:her certify that I am not attorney or counsel 
limy of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee 
of any attorney or counsel of party connected with the 
action, nor am I financially interested in the action 
The foregoing certification of this transcript does 
net apply to any reproduction of the same by any means 
Sass tinder the direct control and/or direction of the 
mthlYinemparter 
Dated this 13th day of October, 2009. 
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ERRATA SHEET 
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IN RE: JANE DOE V. JEFFREY EPSTEIN 
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Qt: PASHA J. SULLIVAN, RPR, FPR, CLR 
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DEPOSITION OF: JANE DOE 
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DATE TAKEN: September 30, 2009 
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deposition and that it is true and correct subject to 
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I hereby artily that I have read the foregoing 
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deposition by me given, and that the statements 
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contained herein are hue end correct to the best of my 
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knowledge and belief, with the exception of any 
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corrections or notations made on the errata sheet, if 
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