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sitting on the couch. We didn't even have the massage 
2 
table out and I gave him a foot rub and I was nude 
3 
Q. 
And how much were you paid for that? 
4 
A. 
Two hundred every single time. 
5 
Q. 
Did he at any point kiss you, touch you, show 
6 
any kind of affection towards you? 
7 
A. 
Never, never. 
8 
Q. 
Okay. 
9 
BY AGENT 
10 
Q. 
Why not? 
11 
A. 
Why not? Why would he? 
12 
Q. 
You seem like a nice young lady, attractive. 
13 
He never had any urges to --
14 
A. 
I asked him, i said, When are you going to get 
15 
married? When are you going to get married, Jeffrey? He 
16 
said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know, 
17 
beautiful women all the time. Why would he -- no, 
18 
huh-uh. 
19 
BY MS. 
20 
Q. 
He never pulled you closer to him in a sexual 
21 
22 
A. 
I wish. No, no, never, ever, ever, no, never. 
23 
Jeffrey is an awesome man, no. 
24 
Q. 
Okay. Now you said that at some point you 
25 
started bringing other girls over? 
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A. 
Uh-huh. 
2 
Q. 
How did that start? 
3 
A. 
He likes to see different faces. 
4 
Q. 
So he asked you if you had friends that you 
5 
could bring over or other girls? 
6 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
7 
Q. 
And how did you decide who you would ask to 
8 
come over? 
9 
A. 
All of my good-looking girlfriends and if they 
10 
had friends. It's all about, you know, we were just 
11 
making money and Jeffrey is an awesome guy. We just, you 
12 
know -- I would tell my girlfriends just like 
13 
approached me. Make sure you tell him you're 18. Well, 
14 
these girls that I brought, I know that they were 18 or 
15 
19 or 20. And the girls that I didn't know and I don't 
16 
know if they were lying or not, I would say make sure 
17 
that you tell him you're 18. 
18 
Q. 
Okay. What exactly would you tell them about 
19 
what would happen after you got to the house? 
20 
A. 
I said he likes massages, but he prefers 
21 
topless massages. But if you're not comfortable, then 
22 
don't do it and it won't matter. 
23 
Q. 
And did any of them tell you what happened 
24 
after that? 
25 
A. 
Always, always, I even asked them. 
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Q. 
Okay. And with the other girls, was it the 
2 
same as what you did or different? 
3 
A. 
Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, I was more willingly 
4 
to do more, you know. Like I said, I went nude for him 
5 
one time. But the other girls, they practically were 
6 
topless and that's all that they were willing to do. 
7 
Some girls didn't want to go topless and Jeffrey didn't 
8 
mind. 
9 
Q. 
Were there girls that you brought back multiple 
10 
times? 
11 
A. 
A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see 
12 
different faces. 
13 
Q. 
Okay. I'm just wondering are there some girls 
14 
he really liked and others he didn't like or did he have 
15 
any preferences in terms of blondes, brunettes? 
16 
A. 
He liked girls like me. 
17 
Q. 
Okay. Thin and attractive? 
18 
A. 
I guess. Yeah, very attractive women. And he 
19 
didn't say girls. He said women all the time. 
20 
Q. 
Did you ever bring anybody he didn't care for? 
21 
A. 
Huh-uh. 
22 
Q. 
Yeah? 
23 
A. 
Yeah. 
24 
Q. 
How was she different than the others? 
25 
A. 
Black. I screwed up. 
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Q. 
How did you know you screwed up? 
2 
A. 
He doesn't like black women, obviously. 
3 
Q. 
So he let you know? He told you that? 
4 
A. 
Yeah, but he was still nice and he still gave 
5 
her her 200 even though he didn't even have a massage by 
6 
her. 
7 
Q. 
How did he -- he paid you $200 for bringing 
8 
each girl? 
9 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
10 
Q. 
And when he told you that, I mean, that's what 
11 
he told you that he would pay you $200 for bringing the 
12 
girls? 
13 
A. 
Yeah. He said if you bring me -- if you bring 
14 
me girls, I'll definitely, you know, give you money, 
15 
compensate you for your time and willing to do that for 
16 
me, yeah. 
17 
Q. 
And you said at that point you stopped 
18 
performing massages for him? 
19 
A. 
At that point, I didn't -- it would be 
20 
sporadically like. Usually, I had so many girlfriends at 
21 
the time that, you know, there were some new faces to be 
22 
saw. And if no one was available, then 
would go. 
23 
Q. 
I got you. 
24 
A. 
So --
25 
Q. 
Do you know some of the girls that you brought, I 
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some of the their names? 
2 
A. 
I don't remember, really. They were like not 
3 
even friends. They were just associates, you know. If 
4 
anything, they'd be friends of friends, so no. 
5 
Q. 
We have -- I don't know. We have some messages 
6 
I guess that some girls' names that would call Jeffrey 
7 
and leave a massage. There's some girls names that are 
8 
referenced. We were just wondering if you knew them? 
9 
A. 
If you name them, I can probably remember. 
10 
MS. 
MM 
do you have that? 
11 
BY AGENT 
12 
Q. 
is one. 
13 
A. 
I don't know 1 = 
Do you know her last 
14 
name? 
15 
MS. 
: We were hoping you did. 
16 
THE WITNESS: No, I don't. 
17 
BY AGENT 
18 
Q. 
19 
A. 
No, that sounds like a black girl's 
20 
name. 
21 
Q. 
Well, you brought a black girl. What was her 
22 
name? 
23 
A. 
I don't know. Don't ask me. 
24 
0. 
25 
A. 
yeah, I brought 
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Q. 
Who is she? Tell us about
2 
A. 
NES 
we look just alike, if that's the girl 
3 
I'm thinking about. We went to school together and I 
4 
brought her one time and then she ended up moving so she 
5 
couldn't come with me.' 
6 
Q. 
Were you guys in the same grade or --
7 
A. 
No, she was older than me. 
8 
Q. 
A year or two? 
9 
A. 
She was -- Actually, she was like 18. I don't 
10 
know. She was older. She was like, you know, two ranks, 
11 
two grades ahead of me. 
12 
Q. 
So when you were a sophomore, she was a senior? 
13 
A. 
I just met her in school and I told her. 
14 
BY MS. 
15 
Q. 
What was her last name? 
16 
A. 
I don't know. 
17 
BY AGENT 
18 
Q. 
Do you know where she lived? 
A. 
I just 
19 
met her in school and I told her about it. 
20 
Q. 
You told her about it at school? Is that where 
21 
your discussion was or --
22 
A. 
Well, I said give me your number. I said you 
23 
can make a couple of dollars. It's real easy. And if 
24 
you're comfortable with it, give me a call. 
25 
Q. 
Was that at school or at a party? 
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A. 
No, at school. 
2 
Q. 
At school. You're not sure what her last name 
3 
was? 
4 
A. 
I have no idea. 
5 
Q. 
Do you know where she lived or anything like 
6 
that, what car she drove? 
7 
A. 
No. 
8 
Q. 
What'd she look like? 
9 
A. 
What she looked like? 
10 
Q. 
Yeah. 
11 
A. 
Like me, everything, blonde hair, blue eyes. 
12 
(Start Side B of tape.) 
13 
AGENT 
: Time recorder is being 
14 
restarted is approximately 4:50 p.m 
15 
BY MS. 
16 
Q. 
We were talking about 
. You were at 
17 
at the time? 
18 
A. 
No, I was at 
19 
Q. 
okay. 
20 
A. 
And that's where 
went to school. 
21 
Q. 
What about a girl named 
22 
A. 
who? 
23 
BY AGENT 
24 
Q. 
Did you bring a 
25 
A. 
I brought a couple 
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Q. 
I want to know about every one you brought. 
2 
A. 
3 
Q. 
What was her name? In a car accident or 
4 
something? 
5 
A. 
No, she died. 
6 
9 
BY MS. 
10 
Q. 
Let's talk about the other 
11. 
A. 
I don't even know. I don't know. I don't 
12 
know. There were some girls that just I would take one 
13 
time and then I would never talk to again, so I don't 
14 
know. 
15 
Q. 
How many girls do you think you brought to 
16 
Jeffrey's house? 
17 
A. 
That's a good question. I bring a lot, like 
18 
maybe -- I don't know, maybe 30, maybe 30. It was all 
19 
about the money to me at that time. 
20 
Q. 
Now any of the girls that you brought, did any 
21 
of them leave their names and numbers and then they would 
22 
get appointments directly from Jeffrey or did they always 
23 
go through you? 
24 
A. 
They went through me, hopefully. 
25 
Q. 
So you don't know? 
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BY AGENT la 
2 
Q. 
You weren't getting paid, right? 
3 
A. 
I told them, I said, Don't give him your 
4 
number. 
5 
BY MS. 
6 
Q. 
If you brought the same girl more than once, 
7 
would you get paid each time you brought them or just get 
8 
the initial $200? 
9 
A. 
Every single time I brought a girl, okay, or I 
10 
referred a girl, I always got $200, always. 
11 
Q. 
Even if she came a second time? 
12 
A. 
Yes. 
13 
Q. 
You would get $200 every time she came? 
14 
A. 
Yes. 
15 
Q. 
Good deal. Okay. What about IIIIIIIIr 
16 
A. 
who? 
17 
Q. 
Any 
that you brought to Mr. Epstein's 
18 
house. 
19 
A. 
I brought a 
20 
Q. 
Where did she go to school? 
21 
A. 
She didn't go to school. 
22 
Q. 
Okay. How did you know 
23 
A. 
' been my -- she's my friend in the 
24 
past. How did I meet 
, at a party or she was my 
25 
-- Actually, she was my baby's father's girlfriend at the 
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time and I met her at a party. 
2 
Q. 
You asked her if she'd be willing to go to 
3 
Jeffrey's house? 
4 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
5 
Q. 
And when -- do you remember when that would 
6 
have been? 
7 
A. 
Actually, a couple weeks, a couple weeks. I do 
8 
remember her. A couple weeks after I met him. 
9 
Q. 
So you brought her pretty soon after you met 
10 
Jeffrey? 
11 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
12 
Q. 
And how old was 
13 
A. 
14 
Q. 
And what happened when you brought 
15 
A. 
The same thing. 
16 
Q. 
Okay. Well, I know that sometimes you said 
17 
that the girls would tell you what happened? 
18 
A. 
She went in there. She had a massage -- she 
19 
gave a massage on his back. She went a couple times. He 
20 
liked her. She went a couple times. The first time she 
21 
told me that he didn't -- it was just like me the first 
22 
time. He didn't climax at all, nothing happened. It was 
23 
just a massage. And then she went, I think, like two 
24 
times after that. And yeah, he masturbated, but no 
25 
touching. She didn't -- there's no touching of him. No 
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touching of her. None of my girls ever had a problem and 
2 
they'd call me. They'd beg me, you know, for us to go to 
3 
Jeffrey's house because they love Jeffrey. Jeffrey is a 
4 
respectful man. He really is. I mean, and he all 
5 
thought we were of age, always. This is what's so sad 
6 
about it. 
7 
Q. 
How would -- how would you make appointments 
8 
for girls to go over there? 
9 
A. 
I'd call them and they'd say hi, do you want to 
10 
go to Jeffrey's house? And they'd say yes or no and we'd 
11 
call a taxi. 
12 
Q. 
How would you know when Jeffrey was going to be 
13 
in town? 
14 
A. 
When Jeffrey was in town, 
would call me. 
15 
Q. 
Did she always call when they were already in 
16 
town or would she -- how far in advance would she call 
17 
you? 
18 
A. 
They only called me when they were in Palm 
19 
Beach. They never called me from anywhere. They've 
20 
never called me from anywhere else. It was always when I 
21 
was in Palm Beach. They'd say hi, we're down here. If 
22 
you want to come and see Jeffrey, you're more than 
23 
welcome to. 
24 
Q. 
So you wouldn't have like a specific time when 
25 
you would go over, like be here at 11 or be here at two? 
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A. 
Well, I'd tell them, I'd say -- well, I mean, 
2 
I'd have to work around his schedule. He'd have to work 
3 
around mine. Yeah, we'd say I'll be there at three. 
4 
I'll be there at four, whatever. 
5 
Q. 
Do you -- I know that you said you talked to 
6 
on the phone. Was there anybody else that you would 
7 
talk to on the phone? 
8 
A. 
If Jeffrey wasn't there like if I'd call him to 
9 
see how he was doing or whatever, you know, he had -- his 
10 
chef would answer the phone. His maid would answer the 
11 
phone. That's --
12 
Q. 
But was 
the only one you talked to about 
13 
making appointments? 
14 
A. 
Uh-huh, yeah. Well, yeah, if Jeffrey wasn't 
15 
available, they'd, you know, he said, the chef or you 
16 
know, whoever, said Jeffrey will get back to you. Yeah, 
17 
made the appointments. 
18 
Q. 
So when you were calling to talk to Jeffrey, 
19 
you were calling the house phone over in Palm Beach? 
20 
A. 
Uh-huh, yeah. 
21 
Q. 
And how often would you talk to Jeffrey on the 
22 
phone as opposed to talking to one of his assistants? 
23 
A. 
Me and Jeffrey hardly ever talked on the phone. 
24 
He was always busy. It was mostly 
. We'd talk when 
25 
I would get there, you know. So it was like hey, do you 
 I 
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want to come in? Yes, cool, you know. Come there, no, 
2 
cool, bye. 
3 
Q. 
Do you know someone who works for Jeffrey named 
4 
5 
A. 
I think I met her one time. 
6 
Q. 
And what do you know about her? 
7 
A. 
She was there. And the person 
, I think, 
8 
I'm not positive, okay. I'm pretty sure she said that 
9 
but I 
10 
think I met her one time, if that's the girl that rings 
11 
the bell, you know, in my head. 
I think is that 
12 
one person I met one time. 
13 
Q. 
Now you said that you had teased Jeffrey about 
14 
whether he was getting married. Did you ever know him to 
15 
have a girlfriend or a steady? 
16 
A. 
No, he told me he's never been married. He's 
17 
never had a girlfriend and he doesn't want to have a 
18 
girlfriend. 
19 
Q. 
Were you ever asked to bring a girl for someone 
20 
else like to give a massage to somebody else or to anyone 
21 
other than Jeffrey? 
22 
A. 
No. I gave 
a massage before. 
23 
Q. 
And how often did that happen? 
24 
A. 
I only gave 
a massage like once or twice, 
25 
once or twice, not that often. 
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Q. 
But anybody else, either any friends that were 
2 
in town or --
3 
A. 
No. See, my mother is a masseuse and I have 
4 
experience massaging and he always liked my massages. So 
5 
he told 
about my massages and she said, yeah, I want 
6 
a massage so I'd go over there. I think it was one or 
7 
two times and I gave her a massage. 
8 
Q. 
Now when the girls were upstairs with Jeffrey 
9 
in the bedroom, what would you do? 
10 
A. 
The chef would make me carved tomatoes, put 
11 
some crab meat in it and I'd just eat, wine and dine. It 
12 
was wonderful, great. 
13 
Q. 
And when you would talk to the chef --
14 
A. 
Yes. 
15 
Q. 
-- would anybody else from the house be there? 
16 
A. 
Yes. I don't know their names. I can't 
17 
remember. There were like all these foreign girls from 
18 
-- like they're beautiful, beautiful models that are from 
19 
different -- they have accents. And no, but it was real 
20 
interesting because we'd talk. And, you know, I'd learn 
21 
a lot from them and they'd learn a lot from me just being 
22 
American. And no, every time I went there it was a good 
23 
time. And I usually just ate or I'd go and suntan or 
24 
something near the pool. 
25 
Q. 
And how long you would the other girl be 
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upstairs normally?. 
2 
A. 
Twenty, 25, 20 to 30 minutes. 
3 
BY AGENT 
4 
Q. 
Back to 
, is there anything else 
5 
about her that.you can remember? You were friends with 
6 
her. She went three times, you think? Did she go back 
7 
without going through you to set up Any appointments that 
8 
you know about? 
9 
A. 
I don't know. 
10 
Q. 
Okay. Were there any othea 
that you
11 
brought? I know you brought other 
or multiple 
12 
13 
A. 
Yeah. I don't know. If you would say like a 
14 
last name, then I would probably remember, but I don't. 
15 
Q. 
Any In? 
Did you bring a' 
16 
A. 
yeah, that sounds familiar. Yeah, 
17 
Esto, yeah. 
18 
Q. 
19 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
20 
Q. 
What can you tell me about her? How old was 
21 
she? 
22 
A. 
She's older than me. 
23 
Q. 
Do you know her from school or --
24 
A. 
No. Where did I meet her? I met her in my 
25 
neighborhood and I asked her if she wanted to go and 
I 
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yeah, t 
She was only there one time, though. 
2 
Q. 
Did she tell you how it went with him upstairs? 
3 
A. 
Yeah. 
4 
Q. 
What'd she say? 
5 
A. 
She said -- she's like ah, I don't know. 
6 
Q. 
She freaked out or something? 
7 
A. 
No, no, but he didn't want her again. He likes 
8 
tall, slender and she was like short. 
9 
Q. 
What did she say about him? 
10 
A. 
She had fun. 
11 
Q. 
She had fun? 
12 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
13 
Q. 
What did she say happened up there? 
14 
A. 
She was topless and just gave a massage. He 
15 
didn't, you know, climax or anything. 
16 
BY MS. 
17 
Q. 
Did you ever, either when you gave him a 
18 
massage or any of the girls, did you ever use a big back 
19 
massager or it was only manual massage? 
20 
A. 
No, it was only my hands. We never used 
21 
anything else. 
22 
Q. 
Now when you were working for him, when you 
23 
were going over to Jeffrey's house to give massages, did 
24 
you have a boyfriend? 
25 
A. 
Yeah, yeah. 
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Q. 
Okay. How did he feel about you going to 
Jeffrey's house? 
3 
A. 
He was a jealous little boy, but he didn't 
4 
care. Bring home the bacon. 
5 
6 
7 
8 
Q. 
What's your boyfriends? 
A. 
9 
10 
11 
A. 
12 
Q. 
Okay, =MI 
13 
14 
A. 
I would bring girls there 
15 
Q. 
So did -- so did Justin have concerns about 
16 
what you were doing at Jeffrey's house? 
17 
A. 
No, he talked to Jeffrey over the phone. 
18 
Jeffrey actually 
19 
20 
21 
Q. 
Was the shower at his house and did he attend? 
22 
A. 
No, no, at my house, at my house. And no, 
23 
Jeffrey wasn't there. He just sent 
to bring me 
24 
gifts for the baby. 
25 
Q. 
Oh, okay. 
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2 
Q. 
Did Justin ever go over there with you? 
3 
A. 
No. 
4 
Q. 
He stayed away. 
5 
A. 
No, he didn't go, no. 
6 
BY MS. 
7 
Q. 
Did Jeffrey ask you about boyfriends? I mean, 
8 
was he curious about --
9 
A. 
Yeah, we always talked about everything, yeah. 
10 
Do you have a boyfriend, yeah, no, you know. We talked 
11 
like friends. I don't know. Just about our life 
12 
stories. You know, he probably knows my whole life 
13 
story. 
14 
BY AGENT 
15 
Q. 
Now do you still have contact with him or --
16 
A. 
Who? 
17 
Q. 
Jeffrey. 
18 
A. 
No, no one's allowing me. 
19 
BY MS. 
20 
Q. 
Did he know that you wanted to be a model or 
21 
that's what you were aspiring to be? 
22 
A. 
Yes, I told him. Yes, I've always wanted to be 
23 
a model, yes. 
24 
Q. 
Did he ever say he'd help you? 
25 
A. 
Uh-huh, yeah. And I was -- like I said, I was 
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1 
at the time and I felt -- like he said, you know, you 
2 
can -- I will definitely take you and bring you to New 
3 
York and everything because he had models there, but I 
4 
always turned it down because I was 'Nand I didn't want 
5 
that to get out. 
6 
Q. 
What did you say to him? How did you put him 
7 
off? 
8 
A. 
I don't know. Oh, well, I don't know. No, he 
9 
wasn't like begging me or anything. He asked me a couple 
10 
times and I said -- I just -- there was like no say about 
11 
it. I just -- I didn't go. And it wasn't like he asked 
12 
me all the time. He just it's a couple times he asked. 
13 
He said I'll bring you to New York or whatever we do and 
14 
we can, you know, try to fulfill your dreams, but I 
15 
always said no because I was young and I didn't want to 
16 
screw up the 18 thing. 
17 
Q. 
Did - 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
Q. 
I'm wondering like how much was he giving you 
23 
advice? How much stuff were you really -- What did you 
24 
talk about? 
25 
A. 
HU. 
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was -- I was totally -- I changed. You know, I was a bad 
2 
little girl and I totally changed. My whole life 
3 
changed. 
4 
And then 
5 
me and Jeffrey really stopped talking. We just stopped 
6 
talking. I had my own life and he had his, so I don't 
7 
know. 
8 
BY AGENT 
9 
Q. 
Did he ever make any arrangements knowing that 
10 
you wanted to be a model or were modeling? He has a lot 
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of connections with photographers and stuff. I mean, did 
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he ever set up any photo shoots or anything like that? 
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A. 
No. No, because he asked me if I would like to 
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go to pursue what I wanted to do, but like I said, for 
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the second time --
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Q. 
I mean in town here, not to travel to New York 
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for a shoot or anything? 
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A. 
No. No, because I always like stood back from 
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that because I didn't want him to know that I was ■ 
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BY MS. 
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Q. 
Did you ever get money from Jeffrey when you 
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didn't either give a massage or bring a girl over? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Okay. When did that happen? 
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A. 
I had to pay rent and I was late on my rent. 
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