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IN THE CIRCUIT COURI VI rill FIFIEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT 
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stArt OF FLORIDA 
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STATE OF FLORIDA, 
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JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 
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Defendant. 
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Notary Public, State of rlorida 
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(Taped statement as follows:) 
AGENT RICHARDS: 
this is Special Agent Jason 
RiChards with the fnt along with Special Agent 
Nesbit Kirkendul and Assistant united StAteS 
Attorney Marie eilafonia here to conduct an 
interview with ms. a 
Also present is 
her attorney, Jim Eisenberg and Carrie Sheehan. 
MR. EISENOFRG: And we are here -- This is Jim 
FiSenbcrg and my investigator. Ms. Sheehan is here, 
And we're here pursuant to a suhpuena that was 
served on me for TIIMM 
and that's why we're 
here. So Ms. eilafonia. it's your show. 
MS. B1LAFONTA: Okay, treat. 
AGENI RICUARDS: 
I also want to add that the 
dale is 4-24-07. and the time by my watch is 4:21 
p.m. 
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Tatum, we just wail to start off and 
lead 
off first. we just want to get some basic info about 
you, simple stuff. I've gut your date of birth aS 
7.26-68: is that correct? 
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Yes. sir. 
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I just want to yet like your hasics like that 
stuff first. your current address? 
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You have a cell phone or --
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only cell. 
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Only cell, okay. Now have you had other cell 
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phone numbers in the past and do you know any of those? 
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that'S the only one I can remember. 
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Okay. But you had some others? 
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uh-huh. 
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Okay. 
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BY N.S. RIIAFONIA: 
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who's your service provider? 
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metro. 
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Metro. And for that other number as well? 
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Yes. 
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Where did you go to high school? 
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And what year did you graduate? 
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what year was that that you dropped out , do you 
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remember? 
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No. 
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what year were you supptrNed w 0raduate, your 
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Okay. 
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I had got my GPO. 
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when did you get thar? 
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About three months ago. 
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Not right now. 
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Plans? 
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I have plans. 
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Where are you thinking about going? 
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III not positive what I want to do. There's a 
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lot of things on my mind, but right now III focusing on 
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my son. 
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working. 
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THE WITNESS: Yeah. 
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AGENT RICHARDS: I have one. tou. 
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THE WITNESS: Yeah. So in the future. I'm 
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definitely going to go to college. I'm going 
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definitely going to go to school. Rut I have, you 
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know, a modeling career gOing on right now that's 
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Where else are you working? 
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T work for Advanced Cleaning Systems. They 
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clean carpets. 
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AGENT RICHARDS: Advanced what WAS it? 
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THF WITNESS: System cleaning. 
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And where are they located? 
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tas Palmas, 11 Swanee, S-w-a-n -e-e, swin. 
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Are you working in an office there or do you go 
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out to people's homes? 
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I work in an office there. 
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Q. 
Obviously, you know why we're here and what we 
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want in talk about. So let me just kind of lead into do 
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You know Jeffrey Epstein? 
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Yes. 
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Tec, of course, you do. NOW when did you meet 
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Jeff? Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or 
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Jeffrey. 
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My girlfriend, Carolyn. introduced me to 
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Jeffrey. 
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Do you know her last name? 
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NO. she was a friend of one of my friends, so 
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7 really didn't know her. 
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when was that? 
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t really couldn't tell you. T don't even 
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remember. It's been so long ago. 
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So Carolyn introduced you to him, was it at a 
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party setting or how did you guys meet? 
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NO. She came to me and she said hey, would you 
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like to make a couple dollars and I said sure. I said 
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doing what? She said, well. I know this 'Jeffrey. lie 
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lives on Palm Beach island and I bring girls there and he 
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likes massages and 1 was like okay. So T asked her, t 
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said well, what about. my age? And she said well, just 
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make sure that you tel l him that you're 18. And I had a 
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fake IP at the time and we went there. 
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what t ime period? 
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were in :school? 
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I WAS 16.
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Sixteen. 
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were you a freshman or a sophomore, do you 
remember? 
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1 couldn't roll you. 
couldn't tell you 
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Now you said that carolyn told you that he 
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likes massages. Did she elaborate on what types of 
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massages? 
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She 
sometimes he likes topless massages, 
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but you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. 
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He just likes massages. 
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And de you know whether Carolyn had given him 
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M41504.JCS? 
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Yeah, she said she's done it before. 
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And do you know whether Carnlyn had taken Any 
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Y0S, She probably did. 
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Did she cell how much you wuuld make? 
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what did she tell you? 
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we go there and we make 5100 in 30 minutes. 
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NOW you said that you asked her, you know, what 
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do I need to be worried about my aye. why did you ask 
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Because 1 don't want to be -- you know. it was 
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like I was underaye and I was young and 1 was pretty 
stupid and I didn't want to yet -- t didn't want to get 
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in trouble, SO T always made sure -- I had a fake ID, 
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anyways, saying that I was 18. And she just said make 
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sure you're 18 because Jeffrey doesn't want any underage 
girls, 
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NOW Carolyn. did she -- where did you meet her 
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at? In school? what setting? 
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T was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's 
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house. I don't know what girlfriend':; house it was. 
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Everybody was just hanging out. And she said -- she came 
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up to me and she asked me. She said, do you want to make 
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a couple bucks and I said sure. 
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asking? 
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NO. T gave Jeffrey my number. And I said, you 
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know, any time you want me to give you A massage again, 
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SO Carolyn took you that first rime, hut then 
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after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey? 
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uh-huh. 
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Tell us about that first time that you went to 
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his house, who • - how did you get there? 
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One of Carolyn's friends and they dropped us 
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off and then we went. You know, we got escorted up to 
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the massage room and he told me everything. de said, 
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Listen. I like massages. And we had the whole massage 
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table laid out, the lotions and everything. And she was 
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In there for the first like five minutes. And the first 
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time I gave him a massage. the left the room and 1 gave 
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him a massage. And she told me. .The says he likes women 
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topless massages. so .t willingly the first time took off 
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up to the room. Do ynu know who that was? 
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One of -- what's her name? Actually, Sara, 
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Sara just said, you know, it's up there and she just told 
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me where it was. 
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upstairs together? 
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Uh-huh. 
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And carolyn stayed in there for the first tew 
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tlh-huh. 
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was 3effrey already in the room by the time 
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Carolyn left? 
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Yeah, he was in the room. 
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Okay. was he there when you guys showed up in 
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the room or did he come in after you were already there? 
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He was in the room already. 
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And you said that you took your top off. pid 
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anybody ask you to take it ott. like did Carolyn say WA 
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Ky the time you took it off, okay. 
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1 said, i told ieffrey. I heard you like 
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massages topless. And he's like, yeah, he said, but you 
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don't have to do anything that you don't reel comfortable 
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with. And t said okay, but I willingly took it off. 
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Q. 
Okay. And during that rirst massage, you said 
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thar you gave him a shoulder and neck massage? 
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Neck, back, shoulder, yeah. 
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Was he face down the entire time that he got 
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his massage? 
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Yeah. 
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And what did you do during the massage? Did 
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you talk or - 
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Yeah, we talked. 
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And what would you talk about with him? 
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living and just all positive things, really nice things. 
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Okay. what was he wearing when you first came 
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in the room? 
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I'm sorry. when he first -- when he first came 
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in the room, he was fully clothed. And then he said, you 
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know, wait a second. I'm going to go on the massage 
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table and he put a towel over him just like a normal 
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masseuse would do. 
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Did he undress and put a towel around him? 
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uh huh. 
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okay. 
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Yeah, I didn't see anything. It was just back, 
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neck and shoulders. 
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Q. 
And after the massage was over. you received 
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the $200? 
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lit gives money right away. 
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III sorry. was that before you started the 
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massage or after the massage he gave you? 
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The first time, he gave me the money right 
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away. 
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okay. And he's the person that paid you the 
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$200? 
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No, it's always Sara. 
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Sara gave you the money? 
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A. 
Uh-huh. 
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what's Sara's last name, do you know? 
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I don' t know. 
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you think you know, you know. If you don't know, --
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THE WITNESS: No, I don't know. I don't know 
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sara's last name. HQ does. 
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okay. The only thing III confused about is you 
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said that sara didn't even take you upstairs. She just 
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told you where you should go? 
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oh-huh. 
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SO when did she pay you the money? 
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She paid me then and there when I first walked 
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in the door, me and Carolyn. 
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she paid you before you went upstairs? 
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Yes. 
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And how much was Carolyn paid? 
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Everybody got paid 5200. 
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And after -- so after the Ilssage was finished, 
you said that you had already been paid. who asked you 
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for your name and telephone number? 
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Jeffrey said, well. III like to see you again. 
Can I have your number? From what I remember. III pretty 
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sure he asked me for my numher and T gave him my number. 
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Okay. 
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Did he write it down upstairs? He had a pen 
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handy. I hope? 
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Uh-huh. 
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on that first massage, you said that you worked 
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on him topless. Nut when you first started, did you take 
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-- what were you wearing? 
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1 was wearing a shirt. a normal shirt and 
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jeans. And I started to do a massage and I said well, I 
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heard you like topless massages. And, of course, he 
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thought I was 18. And he's like yeah. T do. I prefer 
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that. And who wouldn't, you know? So I said okay and I 
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And you took oft your bra as well? 
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And you left your jeans on? 
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Yes. 
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Q. 
Okay. So you gavr him a massage. Did he 
request you do anything sprrial in the massage? 
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NO. 
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And he never turned over in that first massage? 
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NO. 
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SO you said that that day you gave your name 
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him or anybody who worked fur him? 
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The next day, he had called me and he said 
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would like to come out again and t'd like to see you 
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again. I said sure. 1 Wok a taxi there and 7 went 
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there again. 
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The FOllOwing day,
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The next day. 
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okay. And you said that Jeffrey is the person 
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who called you for that appointment? 
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A. 
NO. Jeffrey did not, no. Sara. Sara actually 
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cal led me. ream what 11 remember, Sara actual ly cal led 
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in.:. 
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okay. And she said Jeffrey says he wants to 
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5ee you again? 
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Yes. 
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And then you said you took a taxi? 
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Yes. 
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Is that huw you would normally got to and tram 
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his house? 
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uh-huh, if 1 didn't have friends because 1 
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don't drive, yeah. 
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How did you get home the first time when 
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Carolyn took you over? Did she get a taxi? 
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NO, our friend came back and picked us up. 
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which friend was that? 
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nis name was Brian. I don't know his last 
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name. t really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her 
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friends or whatever, but I met Jeffrey. And once I met 
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Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy and t just -- I don't 
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know. I ended up giving him my number so r could --
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didn't want Carolyn ur Brian to drive me anymore. I 
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would rather go to him on my own. 
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when you would take the taxis to and from, 
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would he III for them? 
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Uh-huh. 
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And he would pay when you arrived? 
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uh-huh. 
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And then he would just oive you extra money 
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when you left to pay for the taxi? 
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No, nn. I never asked him for extra money, so 
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lt just paid for my own taxi. 
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Q. 
okay. So From the money that he paid you for 
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the massage? 
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two hundred, yeah. 
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where were you living at the timcY 
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I was living at 
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located on Okeechobee. so I would take, you know, 
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straight Okeechobee down to where I lived. 
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Q. 
Ou you remember about how much that taxi faro 
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w45 each way? 
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Twenty dollars. 
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And did you always use the same taxi service 
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or 
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Ho, 1 used different taxis all the time. so --
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And you would just call and have them come to 
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your house? 
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taxis, whatever is available. 
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Q. 
SO you mentioned that the second mas sago, was 
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it any different than the first one? 
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Yes. 
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How was it different? 
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When x went there, I went there by myself. And 
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1 went up to the massage room and Jeffrey was just like 
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regular like he was before on his stomach and he had a 
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towel over and we started the massage and I had my top 
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off willingly. And after the massage. he asks me the 
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this and I said yes and he turned around. And this was 
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like at the end of the massage. our 30-minutes massage. 
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usually it was even shorter than that. And he 
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masturbated at the end of the massage and it was like two 
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seconds and 1 was just tool'''. 
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Q. 
And when he turned over, then did he touch you 
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at all or was he just --
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NO. I did not touch him. He did not touch me. 
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we didn't even want --
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Q. 
Yott didn't like continue the massage while he 
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was masturbating or anything? 
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NO. 
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Okay. T rut you off. YOu said he didn't even? 
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He didn't want me to touch him and he didn't 
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Did he ever ask you to rub his chest or rub his 
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nipples during the massage? 
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long time. tater on. I asked him. you know, and I asked 
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chest or whatever and massage him while he was 
masturbating. yeah. 
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So eventually you would continue the massage 
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and he would masturbate at the same time? 
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Yeah. but it wasn't on his lower area. 
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no, you never touched his penis? 
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Right. 
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Okay. so that was during the second massage. 
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You were paid 5200 again? 
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Always. 
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Always? Every time you went there? 
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Always. 
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was it always Sara that paid you? 
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sometimes Jeffrey would and sometimes Sara 
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was it usually before or after the massage? 
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After the first time, it was always after. I 
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would go downstairs and t'd get paid. 
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So just sort of tell us, when a massage ended. 
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which I assume was after he ejaculated? 
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it wasn't all the time that he did, though. 
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Okay. 
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released. sometimes he just wanted his feet massaged. 
sometimes he just wanted a hack massage. 
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