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Service List 
Theodore J. Leopold, Esq. 
Ricci-Leopold, P.A. 
2925 PGA Blvd., Suite 200 
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 
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Counsel for Plaintiffiane Doe 
Douglas M. McIntosh, Esq. 
Jason A. McGrath, Esq. 
McIntosh, Sawran, Peltz & Cartaya, P.A. 
Centurion Tower 
1601 Forum Place, Suite 1110 
West Palm Beach Florida 33401 
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Counsel for Defendant 
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250 Australian Avenue South 
Suite 1400 
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 
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Counsel for Defendant 
Robert D. Critton, Esq. 
Michael J. Pike, Esq. 
Burman, Critton, Luttier & 
Coleman, LLP 
515 N. Flagler Drive, Suite 400 
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 
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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT 
IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA 
CASE NO. 2006 CF09454AXX 
STATE OF FLORIDA, 
JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 
Defendant. 
DEPOSITION OF 
Wednesday, February 20, 2008 
2:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. 
Palm Beach County Courthouse 
205 North Dixie Highway 
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 
Reported By: 
Judith F. Consor, FPR 
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APPEARANCES: 
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On behalf of the State: 
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LANNA BELOHLAVEK, ESQ. 
ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY 
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401 North Dixie Highway 
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 
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On behalf of the Defendant: 
MICHAEL R. TEIN, ESQ. 
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KATHRYN A. MEYERS, ESQ. 
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3059 GRAND AVENUE, SUITE 340 
COCONUT GROVE, FL 33133 
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On behalf of the Defendant: 
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JACK A. GOLDBERGER, ESQ. 
ATTERBURY, GOLDBERGER & WEISS 
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ON BEHALF OF THE WITNESS: THEODORE J. LEOPOLD, ESQ. 
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going to ask you a few 
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wan: to take a break, you just let me know. Okay? 
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Deposition taken before Judith F. Consor, 
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my questions, will you just please let me know? 
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Yes. 
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And if at any time you're not feeling well 
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or something like that, you'll tell us, right? 
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Yes. 
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Do you feel okay today? 
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Yes. 
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Not taking any alcohol or drugs or anything 
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like that, right? 
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No. 
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So you feel ready to have your deposition 
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taken? 
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Yes. 
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what is your address? 
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I'm currently living at my aunt's house and 
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I don't know it off the top of my head. 
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Where is it? 
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In Jupiter. 
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Who is your aunt? 
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Who else is living there? 
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my uncle. 
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Anyone else living there? 
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The contempt motion that your mother filed 
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against your father regarding your fifty million-dollar 
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lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein says that you live with 
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your aunt and uncle and have been living there; is that 
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correct? 
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Yes. 
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How long have you been living with your 
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aunt and uncle? 
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Since my father kicked me out. 
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That was Thanksgiving of this past year? 
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Yes, sir. 
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Okay. Didn't your firefighter boyfriend 
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get an apartment for the two of you? 
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No, sir. He has an apartment, but by 
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himself. 
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Did he get an apartment for the two of you 
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to live in? 
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No, sir. 
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Are you planning to move in with him? 
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Maybe one day in the future. 
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Do you have a plan to move in with him 
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presently? 
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No. 
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Have you been to the apartment that you and 
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have discussed moving in together? 
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I have been to the apartment. 
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Where is that? 
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Palm Beach Lakes. 
Have you spent the night over there? 
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No, sir. 
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Do you know the address there? 
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I do not. 
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Isn't your sister 
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you know that this court case is a 
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criminal prosecution, correct? 
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Correct. 
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And you know that it's a criminal 
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prosecution against a man who has no criminal background. 
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Do you know that? 
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I do now. 
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You agree that court is a very serious 
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matter? 
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Yes. 
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And you're here with your lawyer 
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Mr. Leopold, right? 
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Yes. 
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And you know that Mr. Leopold recently 
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let me instruct you. Anything that 
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you have learned through conversations between you 
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and me are protected. So if you know any of that 
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information outside of those discussions, you may 
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answer. But if the only way you know it is 
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IIIII1 you know that Mr. Leopold recently 
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filed a lawsuit in federal court on your behalf against 
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Jeffrey Epstein seeking fifty million dollars? 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 
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If you know the answer to that outside of 
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our discussions, you may answer. If it is the 
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only way that you know the answer is through our 
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discussions, do not answer that question. 
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THE WITNESS: Okay. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Attorney/client privilege. 
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You can answer the question unless --
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MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 
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MR. TEIN: Let me finish. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Excuse me. We're --
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MR. LEOPOLD: Lewis, we're not going to do 
MR. TEIN: My name is not Lewis. 
I'm going to finish my question. Okay? 
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Other than conversations that you have had 
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with Mr. Leopold -- I'm not asking about that -- are you 
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aware that Mr. Leopold has filed a lawsuit in federal 
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court seeking fifty million dollars from Jeffrey Epstein 
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on your behalf? 
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Those are protected. If you know through any 
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You have no idea that Mr. Leopold filed a 
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Jeffrey Epstein? 
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Do not answer that question if it's through 
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you may answer. So do not answer that question if 
that is the only basis by which you understand 
that answer. 
THE WITNESS: No. 
BY MR. TEIN: 
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You didn't know that? 
MR. LEOPOLD: Don't answer that question. 
Again, it's attorney/client privilege. Any 
Information you've learned through conversations 
between you and I are protected. If you know it 
through any other realm, you may answer. 
MR. TEIN: Are you going to say that for 
every question in the deposition, Mr. Leopold? 
MR. LEOPOLD: When you ask improper 
questions like that without the proper --
MR. TEIN: You're going to stop your 
speaking objections right now. Okay? 
MR. LEOPOLD: Without the proper --
MR. TEIN: You need to stop your speaking 
objections. 
Let's continue. 
MR. LEOPOLD: Counsel, you just asked me a 
question and I'm going to state it on the 
record --
MR. TEIN: You need to stop your speaking 
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objections. Check your rules. 
MR. LEOPOLD: Excuse me. For the record, 
Counsel asked me a question. I'll state the 
answer on the record. He asked me the question am 
I going to be answering that way throughout the 
deposition. So long as there's improper 
foundation and predicate asked by the attorney, I 
will protect my client and I make the record where 
appropriate. If counsel wishes to ask an 
appropriate worded question with the proper 
foundation and predicate, I will certainly allow 
the client to answer the question. 
MR. GOLDBERGER: Why don't you just state 
attorney/client privilege and just be done with 
it? 
MR. LEOPOLD: I want the record to be 
clear. 
MR. TEIN: You want to waste time is what 
you want to do. 
You were supposed to be here this morning 
and you totally broke the deal, the agreement that 
you had with us if your hearing got cancelled. 
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obstructing this deposition. 
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clear where we stand thus far. 
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Is there a recording taken of this 
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deposition? 
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THE COURT REPORTER: Yes. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Just make sure that's 
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preserved. 
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Go to Exhibit 20-01 -- well, before you do 
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are you aware that a lawyer named Jeffrey 
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Herman filed a lawsuit on your behalf, yes or no? 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Objection. 
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Any conversations that you and I have had 
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regarding that, if that is the only way by which 
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you understand how to answer that question, do not 
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answer. It's attorney/client privilege, as well 
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as any conversations you may have had with the 
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attorney from Miami. That is also attorney/client 
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privilege. And I'm assuming --
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MR. TEIN: You're actually wrong about the 
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attorney/client privilege. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: I'm assuming Counsel is not 
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asking you to divulge attorney/client --
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an attorney, filed a fifty-million-dollar lawsuit on your 
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behalf against Jeffrey Epstein, yes or no? 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 
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MR. TEIN: We've heard the objection 10 
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times already. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Counsel, excuse me. 
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MR. TEIN: Just say attorney/client 
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privilege. Stop interrupting my questions. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: I'm entitled to make an 
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objection for the record, which I'm doing, and 
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I'll make the same objection. And if it calls for 
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attorney/client privilege, any conversations you 
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and I have had, do not answer the question. 
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for the record, to ask questions via 
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Go ahead. Please answer yes or no. 
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Yes. 
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Thank you. 
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In fact, you know that Mr. Herman held a 
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press conference after he filed the fifty-million-dollar 
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lawsuit on your behalf, don't you? 
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After it happened. 
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stepmother and Mr. Herman at the press conference 
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regarding your lawsuit? 
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Yes. 
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Now you know that this is a very serious 
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matter, don't you? 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Asked and answered. 
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objection. 
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MR. GOLDBERGER: All right. You can 
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You know that he had a press conference, 
don't you, yes or no? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
In fact, let's go to Exhibit 20-01. 
MR. GOLDBERGER: Look behind you. You'll 
see it. 
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Have you ever seen that picture before? 
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Yes. 
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Is that a picture of your father, your 
object. You're representing a witness here, 
Mr. Leopold. You can object on privilege grounds. 
standing to do so. 
MR. LEOPOLD: I'm going to make them and 
then --
MR. GOLDBERGER: We're --
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MR. LEOPOLD: We're going to leave or we're 
going to take a break, because his demeanor is not 
appropriate. There's no reason to have this kind 
of demeanor. If you want to have this kind of 
demeanor with me --
MR. TEIN: You are obstructing this 
deposition. 
MR. GOLDBERGER: Why don't you guys go 
outside and just talk about 
MR. LEOPOLD: She -- her job is very 
difficult and she's not going to be able to take 
us both talking at the same time. 
MR. GOLDBERGER: Off the record. 
MR. LEOPOLD: We're not going off the 
record, Jack. We're not, Jack. Her job is very 
difficult. I'm going td make the record. 
I don't think it is appropriate, especially 
in the small confines of this room, to be very 
aggressive with this young lady. 
MR. TEIN: That's not happening. Stop, 
stop actually --
MR. LEOPOLD: If you're going to interrupt 
me, we're going to cancel this deposition 
MR. TEIN: Stop misrepresenting. 
THE COURT REPORTER: I need one at a time, 
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no matter who it is. 
MR. LEOPOLD: I think we're going to take a 
break. Perhaps you might want to talk to your 
co-counsel --
MR. TEIN: I don't need to talk to him. 
MR. LEOPOLD: But we're going to take a 
break. 
MR. TEIN: We're not taking a break unless 
the witness needs a break. 
You're obstructing this deposition, Ted. 
MR. LEOPOLD: Come on, NW 
You all want to continue in this 
demeanor --
MR. TEIN: You're obstructing the 
deposition. Stop making speeches. We're not 
discussing this with you. The questions are to 
your client. Go take your five-minute break. 
MR. LEOPOLD: Fine. We need to make sure 
the record's clear and clean. 
And I want to make sure, as I've already 
asked you -- I know that you're one of the best in 
town -- that this audio -- this needs to be 
preserved. Okay? 
MR. TEIN: Go take your five-minute break, 
Mr. Leopold, now. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: Okay. If the demeanor keeps 
up, we will not be here beyond those five minutes. 
MR. TEIN: Take your break and come back. 
MR. LEOPOLD: Okay. So I suggest that you 
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break. 
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MR. GOLDBERGER: Let them take that 
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five-minute break. 
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MR. LEOPOLD: But I would suggest that you 
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take deep breaths. 
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MR. TEIN: Suggest whatever you want. Go 
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take a break. 
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you agree that giving testimony 
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today at your deposition is something very serious, don't 
MR. TEIN: I suggest that you take your 
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you? 
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Yes. 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Let me show you Exhibit 31-O01. Can you 
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read that out loud, please. 
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Okay. What do you want? 
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Will you read that out loud, please. 
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Oh. 
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Thank you. 
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Lol hah my baddd...1O1 yah i got some 
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stupid court shit on the 20th...bullshit...and damn you 
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still have court shit with him? Like after so long wow 
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im sorry... well yah well we will definitely havta make 
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plans for sure..because i miss u tons times a million and 
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no no no i love you...o and p.s. i love ur default pic 
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niggaa. Muah xo. 
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Q. 
Did you send that message last week to a 
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friend of yours on MySpace? 
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A. 
I wouldn't know. There's no dates and I've 
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deleted that MySpace, so --
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Q. 
We're going to talk about that in a second. 
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A. 
Okay. 
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Q. 
Did you send that message last week --
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A. 
Right. 
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Q. 
Let me finish my question. 
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Did you send that message last week to a 
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friend of yours on MySpace? 
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A. 
I wouldn't know the date, but obviously, 
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it's to a friend. 
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