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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM Document 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 25 of 100 Service List Theodore J. Leopold, Esq. Ricci-Leopold, P.A. 2925 PGA Blvd., Suite 200 Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 Fax: Counsel for Plaintiffiane Doe Douglas M. McIntosh, Esq. Jason A. McGrath, Esq. McIntosh, Sawran, Peltz & Cartaya, P.A. Centurion Tower 1601 Forum Place, Suite 1110 West Palm Beach Florida 33401 Fax. III Counsel for Defendant Bruce E. P . Bruce E. , P.A. 250 Australian Avenue South Suite 1400 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Fax. Counsel for Defendant Robert D. Critton, Esq. Michael J. Pike, Esq. Burman, Critton, Luttier & Coleman, LLP 515 N. Flagler Drive, Suite 400 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Fax. Co-Counsel for Jeffrey Epstein 25 Lewis Fein ,. )059 Gana An Nut. SuOT 340, CoOmul fitOvt. ?Iota 13)33 2$ of 3t1 EFTA00232157
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM Document 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 26 of 100 EXHIBIT A 2001316 EFTA00232158
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r Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 27 of 100 nsor & Associates Rcpniap slid Tummy:in% Inc. IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA CASE NO. 2006 CF09454AXX STATE OF FLORIDA, JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. DEPOSITION OF Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. Palm Beach County Courthouse 205 North Dixie Highway West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Reported By: Judith F. Consor, FPR copy Notary Public, State of Florida Consor & ASsociates Reporting and Transcription Phone - Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 atom EFTA00232159
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 28 of 100 nsor & Associates Repanitv and Transcripline. lnc Page 2 1 APPEARANCES: 2 On behalf of the State: 3 LANNA BELOHLAVEK, ESQ. ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY 4 401 North Dixie Highway West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 5 561.355.7100 6 On behalf of the Defendant: MICHAEL R. TEIN, ESQ. 7 KATHRYN A. MEYERS, ESQ. LEWIS TEIN, PL 8 3059 GRAND AVENUE, SUITE 340 COCONUT GROVE, FL 33133 9 On behalf of the Defendant: 10 JACK A. GOLDBERGER, ESQ. ATTERBURY, GOLDBERGER & WEISS 11 250 AUSTRALIAN AVENUE SOUTH SUITE 1400 12 WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401 13 14 ALSO PRESENT: ON BEHALF OF THE WITNESS: THEODORE J. LEOPOLD, ESQ. 15 KEITH J. BRETT, DIRECTOR OF MULTIMEDIA DIVISION, LEGAL-EZE 16 17 :8 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 280 3% EFTA00232160
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8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 29 of 100 sor & Associates Rep/irons and Traucripuna, 1 2 3 INDEX WITNESS: Page 3 PAGE: DIRECT EXAMINATION 4 4 BY MR. TEIN: 5 6 7 NOEXHIBITS MARKED - 23 24 25 Page - CERTIFIED QUESTIONS Line 53 22 55 1 59 2 111 14 112 2 Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00232161
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 30 of 100 nsor & Associates Ropm.ans and iraftscdpro. 1.714 16 7 18 O. Thank you. 19 May I call you 4111W 20 A. Uh-huh. 21 Q. going to ask you a few 22 questions, several questions today. If at any time you 23 wan: to take a break, you just let me know. Okay? 24 A. Okay. 25 O. If you at any time don't understand one of Page 4 1 Deposition taken before Judith F. Consor, 2 Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of 3 Flsrida at Large, in the above cause. 4 5 Thereupon, 6 7 having been first duly sworn or affirmed, was examined 8 and testified as follows: 9 THE WITNESS: I do. 10 DIRECT EXAMINATION 11 BY MR. TEIN: 12 O. Good afternoon. Please tell me your full 13 naue. 14 A. 15 0. And can you please spell it. A. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 30 of 3l EFTA00232162
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 EnteredonFLSDDocket07/21/2008 Page 31 of 100 nsor & Associates Ruportias and Tractscriptice. lac Page 5 1 my questions, will you just please let me know? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. And if at any time you're not feeling well 4 or something like that, you'll tell us, right? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. Do you feel okay today? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. Not taking any alcohol or drugs or anything 9 like that, right? 10 A. No. 11 0. So you feel ready to have your deposition 12 taken? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. what is your address? 15 A. I'm currently living at my aunt's house and 16 I don't know it off the top of my head. 17 Q. Where is it? 18 A. In Jupiter. 19 Q. Who is your aunt? 20 A. 21 Q. Who else is living there? 22 A. a my uncle. 23 24 25 Q. A. Q. Anyone else living there? No. The contempt motion that your mother filed Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 I 31 4:4316 EFTA00232163
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 32 of 100 nsor & Associates Rep/min; and Transcription. inc. Page 6 1 against your father regarding your fifty million-dollar 2 lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein says that you live with 3 your aunt and uncle and have been living there; is that 4 correct? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. How long have you been living with your 7 aunt and uncle? 8 A. Since my father kicked me out. 9 Q. That was Thanksgiving of this past year? 10 A. Yes, sir. 11 Q. Okay. Didn't your firefighter boyfriend 12 get an apartment for the two of you? 13 A. No, sir. He has an apartment, but by 14 himself. 15 Q. Did he get an apartment for the two of you 6 to live in? 17 A. No, sir. 18 Q. Are you planning to move in with him? 19 A. Maybe one day in the future. 20 Q. Do you have a plan to move in with him 21 presently? 22 A. No. 23 Q. Have you been to the apartment that you and 24 have discussed moving in together? 25 A. I have been to the apartment. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 32 el 316 EFTA00232164
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 EnteredonFLSODocket07/21/2008 Page 33 of 100 nsor & Associates tiertaniqf and transcriptim Inc 1 2 3 Q. Q. Where is that? A. Palm Beach Lakes. Have you spent the night over there? Page 7 4 A. No, sir. 5 Q. Do you know the address there? 6 A. I do not. 7 Q. Isn't your sister planning on living 8 with you and at 9 A. No. 10 Q. llIR you know that this court case is a 11 criminal prosecution, correct? 12 A. Correct. 13 Q. And you know that it's a criminal 14 prosecution against a man who has no criminal background. 15 Do you know that? 16 A. I do now. 17 Q. You agree that court is a very serious 18 matter? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. And you're here with your lawyer 21 Mr. Leopold, right? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. And you know that Mr. Leopold recently 24 filed a lawsuit in federal court against Jeffrey Epstein, 25 seeking fifty million dollars. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 13.1316 EFTA00232165
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 34 of 100 nsor & Associates aornrtiap and Tratsctipoto. lac. Page 8 1 MR. LEOPOLD: Let me just object. 2 let me instruct you. Anything that 3 you have learned through conversations between you 4 and me are protected. So if you know any of that 5 information outside of those discussions, you may 6 answer. But if the only way you know it is 7 through our discussions, do not answer that 8 question. 9 BY MR. TEIN: 10 Q. IIIII1 you know that Mr. Leopold recently 11 filed a lawsuit in federal court on your behalf against 12 Jeffrey Epstein seeking fifty million dollars? 13 MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 14 If you know the answer to that outside of 15 our discussions, you may answer. If it is the 16 only way that you know the answer is through our 17 discussions, do not answer that question. 18 THE WITNESS: Okay. 19 MR. LEOPOLD: Attorney/client privilege. 20 BY MR. TEIN: 21 Q. You can answer the question unless -- 22 MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 23 MR. TEIN: Let me finish. 24 MR. LEOPOLD: Excuse me. We're -- 25 MR. TEIN: No. Let me finish. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 34 of Mt EFTA00232166
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 35 of 100 sor & Associates Homing sold Tramscripam, Inc. 1 2 3 4 that. Page 9 MR. LEOPOLD: Lewis, we're not going to do MR. TEIN: My name is not Lewis. I'm going to finish my question. Okay? 5 MR. LEOPOLD: Do not answer until you hear 6 from me. 7 BY MR. TEIN: 8 Q. Other than conversations that you have had 9 with Mr. Leopold -- I'm not asking about that -- are you 10 aware that Mr. Leopold has filed a lawsuit in federal 11 court seeking fifty million dollars from Jeffrey Epstein 12 on your behalf? 13 MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 14 Anything that you learn through 15 conversations between you and me, do not answer. 16 Those are protected. If you know through any 17 other realm of knowledge, you may answer. 18 19 BY MR. TEIN: 20 Q. You have no idea that Mr. Leopold filed a 21 fifty million-dollar lawsuit on your behalf against THE WITNESS: No. 22 Jeffrey Epstein? 23 24 MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. Do not answer that question if it's through 25 discussions that you and I had. Outside of that, Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 35013t6 EFTA00232167
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 36 of 100 nsor & Associates Reporting ad Tranxtip:inei. lac 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 13. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 10 you may answer. So do not answer that question if that is the only basis by which you understand that answer. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. TEIN: Q. You didn't know that? MR. LEOPOLD: Don't answer that question. Again, it's attorney/client privilege. Any Information you've learned through conversations between you and I are protected. If you know it through any other realm, you may answer. MR. TEIN: Are you going to say that for every question in the deposition, Mr. Leopold? MR. LEOPOLD: When you ask improper questions like that without the proper -- MR. TEIN: You're going to stop your speaking objections right now. Okay? MR. LEOPOLD: Without the proper -- MR. TEIN: You need to stop your speaking objections. Let's continue. MR. LEOPOLD: Counsel, you just asked me a question and I'm going to state it on the record -- MR. TEIN: You need to stop your speaking Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Motile EFTA00232168
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 37 of 100 nsor & Associates Re porung and Transciip<m). lnc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Page 11 objections. Check your rules. MR. LEOPOLD: Excuse me. For the record, Counsel asked me a question. I'll state the answer on the record. He asked me the question am I going to be answering that way throughout the deposition. So long as there's improper foundation and predicate asked by the attorney, I will protect my client and I make the record where appropriate. If counsel wishes to ask an appropriate worded question with the proper foundation and predicate, I will certainly allow the client to answer the question. MR. GOLDBERGER: Why don't you just state attorney/client privilege and just be done with it? MR. LEOPOLD: I want the record to be clear. MR. TEIN: You want to waste time is what you want to do. You were supposed to be here this morning and you totally broke the deal, the agreement that you had with us if your hearing got cancelled. 23 But let's move on and maybe you'll stop 24 obstructing this deposition. 25 MR. LEOPOLD: I think the record is very Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 37 of 310 EFTA00232169
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 38 of 100 nsor & Associates Reporting end Transcription. lac. Page 12 1 clear where we stand thus far. 2 Is there a recording taken of this 3 deposition? 4 THE COURT REPORTER: Yes. 5 MR. LEOPOLD: Just make sure that's 6 preserved. 7 BY.MR. TEIN: 8 Q. Go to Exhibit 20-01 -- well, before you do 9 that, are you aware that a lawyer named Jeffrey 10 Herman filed a lawsuit on your behalf, yes or no? 11 MR. LEOPOLD: Objection. 12 Any conversations that you and I have had 13 regarding that, if that is the only way by which 14 you understand how to answer that question, do not 15 answer. It's attorney/client privilege, as well 16 as any conversations you may have had with the 17 attorney from Miami. That is also attorney/client 18 privilege. And I'm assuming -- 19 MR. TEIN: You're actually wrong about the 20 attorney/client privilege. 21 MR. LEOPOLD: I'm assuming Counsel is not 22 asking you to divulge attorney/client -- 23 MR. TEIN: Of course not. 24 BY MR. TEIN: 25 Q. a are you aware that Jeffrey Herman, Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 31 d711 EFTA00232170
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAKI ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 39 of 100 nsor & Associates Reporting and Traescriptico, Inc. Page 13 an attorney, filed a fifty-million-dollar lawsuit on your 2 behalf against Jeffrey Epstein, yes or no? 3 MR. LEOPOLD: Same objection. 4 MR. TEIN: We've heard the objection 10 5 times already. 6 MR. LEOPOLD: Counsel, excuse me. 7 MR. TEIN: Just say attorney/client 8 privilege. Stop interrupting my questions. 9 MR. LEOPOLD: I'm entitled to make an 10 objection for the record, which I'm doing, and 11 I'll make the same objection. And if it calls for 12 attorney/client privilege, any conversations you 13 and I have had, do not answer the question. 14 And I think that it might be appropriate, 15 for the record, to ask questions via 16 4IIIIIIIIIias opposed to gm, I think that 17 would be more appropriate for this deposition. 18 BY MR. TEIN: 19 Q. Go ahead. Please answer yes or no. 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Thank you. 22 In fact, you know that Mr. Herman held a 23 press conference after he filed the fifty-million-dollar 24 lawsuit on your behalf, don't you? 25 After it happened. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 39 of 3I6 EFTA00232171
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM nt 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 40 of 100 nsor & Associates Roportenp and Tanscriptinn, 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 stepmother and Mr. Herman at the press conference 12 regarding your lawsuit? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Now you know that this is a very serious 15 matter, don't you? 16 MR. LEOPOLD: Asked and answered. 17 objection. 18 MR. GOLDBERGER: All right. You can 19 20 21 You cannot make legal objections. You have no Page 14 Q. You know that he had a press conference, don't you, yes or no? A. Yes. Q. In fact, let's go to Exhibit 20-01. MR. GOLDBERGER: Look behind you. You'll see it. BY MR. TEIN: Q. Have you ever seen that picture before? A. Yes. 22 23 24 25 Q. Is that a picture of your father, your object. You're representing a witness here, Mr. Leopold. You can object on privilege grounds. standing to do so. MR. LEOPOLD: I'm going to make them and then -- MR. GOLDBERGER: We're -- Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 40 or 314 EFTA00232172
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 41 of 100 nsor & Associates Re ponies arid Transentman, Inc I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 2_4 25 Page 15 MR. LEOPOLD: We're going to leave or we're going to take a break, because his demeanor is not appropriate. There's no reason to have this kind of demeanor. If you want to have this kind of demeanor with me -- MR. TEIN: You are obstructing this deposition. MR. GOLDBERGER: Why don't you guys go outside and just talk about MR. LEOPOLD: She -- her job is very difficult and she's not going to be able to take us both talking at the same time. MR. GOLDBERGER: Off the record. MR. LEOPOLD: We're not going off the record, Jack. We're not, Jack. Her job is very difficult. I'm going td make the record. I don't think it is appropriate, especially in the small confines of this room, to be very aggressive with this young lady. MR. TEIN: That's not happening. Stop, stop actually -- MR. LEOPOLD: If you're going to interrupt me, we're going to cancel this deposition MR. TEIN: Stop misrepresenting. THE COURT REPORTER: I need one at a time, Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 41 of 311 EFTA00232173
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 42 of 100 nsor & Associates Roparziap and Transcription. lac. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 16 no matter who it is. MR. LEOPOLD: I think we're going to take a break. Perhaps you might want to talk to your co-counsel -- MR. TEIN: I don't need to talk to him. MR. LEOPOLD: But we're going to take a break. MR. TEIN: We're not taking a break unless the witness needs a break. You're obstructing this deposition, Ted. MR. LEOPOLD: Come on, NW You all want to continue in this demeanor -- MR. TEIN: You're obstructing the deposition. Stop making speeches. We're not discussing this with you. The questions are to your client. Go take your five-minute break. MR. LEOPOLD: Fine. We need to make sure the record's clear and clean. And I want to make sure, as I've already asked you -- I know that you're one of the best in town -- that this audio -- this needs to be preserved. Okay? MR. TEIN: Go take your five-minute break, Mr. Leopold, now. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 42 Wile EFTA00232174
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Case 9 08-cv-80804-KAM nt 1 EnteredonFLSpDocket07121/2008 Page 43 of 100 nsor & Associates Ropartin mod TrassaIptIra, lac. 1 Page 17 You were supposed to be here at nine a.m.; 2 it's now after two. Take your break and come 3 back. 4 5 6 7 MR. LEOPOLD: Okay. If the demeanor keeps up, we will not be here beyond those five minutes. MR. TEIN: Take your break and come back. MR. LEOPOLD: Okay. So I suggest that you 8 relax. 9 10 break. 11 MR. GOLDBERGER: Let them take that 12 five-minute break. 13 MR. LEOPOLD: But I would suggest that you 14 take deep breaths. 15 MR. TEIN: Suggest whatever you want. Go 16 take a break. 17 (Thereupon, a recess was taken.) 18 BY MR. TEIN: 19 Q. you agree that giving testimony 20 today at your deposition is something very serious, don't MR. TEIN: I suggest that you take your 21 you? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. 24 And you respect the court, don't you? A. Yes. 25 Q. Let me show you Exhibit 31-O01. Can you Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 43,1311 EFTA00232175
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Case 9:08-cv-80804-KAM nt 1 ter E wdonFLSIDDlocket07/21/2008 Page 44 of 100 pi sor Associates Repartinp ad 1 rancti pucm, Page 18 1 read that out loud, please. 2 A. Okay. What do you want? 3 Q. Will you read that out loud, please. 4 A. Oh. 5 Q. Thank you. 6 A. Lol hah my baddd...1O1 yah i got some 7 stupid court shit on the 20th...bullshit...and damn you 8 still have court shit with him? Like after so long wow 9 im sorry... well yah well we will definitely havta make 10 plans for sure..because i miss u tons times a million and 11 no no no i love you...o and p.s. i love ur default pic 12 niggaa. Muah xo. 13 Q. Did you send that message last week to a 14 friend of yours on MySpace? 15 A. I wouldn't know. There's no dates and I've 16 deleted that MySpace, so -- 17 Q. We're going to talk about that in a second. 18 A. Okay. 19 Q. Did you send that message last week -- 20 A. Right. 21 Q. Let me finish my question. 22 Did you send that message last week to a 23 friend of yours on MySpace? 24 A. I wouldn't know the date, but obviously, 25 it's to a friend. Ph. - Fax. 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 44 of 314 EFTA00232176