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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
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Document 15-2 
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Page 22 of 35 
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financial arrangsni with your father. 
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Does fully court matter? 
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Okay. Without telling we whet was esid, 
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who proper& you for today's deposition? 
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Whet do We wee Prelweeal 
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whet weld happen. with anybody? 
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pay. 
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this wanly. to prepare for your deposition, right? 
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wt. Leopold to take place this soloing? 
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Do*, like. lias ries days ago. IOW Gays 
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So you're aware that W. Leopold told us 
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that he could not start the deposition this donning 
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he had a Wirt appearance, correct, 
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M. LWPOLD, 
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Celle for attorney/client oweephcatioris. 
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wrote to us stating that he " 
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W101.4 to ItY. Goldberger stating that he could not be hero 
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When did you meet with NC. Leopold to 
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prepare for today's depoottlee? 
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This mowing. 
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And how long did that meeting last? 
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A. 
Ontil it started. 
$Ow you told we that you PiewlevelY had 
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read the police reports In this ease? 
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A. 
Yoe. 
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Haw you read your stetement that you gave 
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to the polio*? 
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A. 
Yes, 
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O. 
And in what (one was that statement, 
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A. 
What do you mean? 
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O. 
teas it in the toms of a police report or • 
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transcripts 
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What's the difference? 
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O. 
A transcript has &mations and answers on 
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it. 
A police report is just typed out narrative. 
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co. it's a pollee report. 
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And whim did you reed the police report? 
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A few days ago. 
I cdverread it a few days 
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Nod you read it before that? 
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Nave you listened to your tape-recorded 
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Yes. 
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We& did you listen to that? 
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In. I thins, this building. 
I doa't know. 
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It was hero. 
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When did you listen to that statement? 
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This anning• 
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And who was present when you Luton«, to 
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that otattoonts 
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Have you met with lawyers repwwnting 
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A. 
No, sir. 
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O. 
Now sonny &mos have you epoRen to officers 
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with the Pal, Desch Pollee Depactment? 
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A. 
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A whin ego. I'd say • year ago. 
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A year ego? 
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leek. ante a year sad • half. 
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She was the only on I spoke to neat this 
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stil for soma reason me wasn't di the can anymore. 
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When wee that? 
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The first meelint I ewer had was with her 
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mil then I think like g not with her like 10 tines or 12 
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tines or sonethIng ilk* that, and thee t didn't get --
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another Investigator questioned re after that. 
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And rho wee that? 
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A. 
1 Mi't sesseber. 
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And chat type of question alla they Ilk 
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yen? 
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(Dinuselon held off the record.) 
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NA. TAM: Toll et the lest amber. pleas.. 
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by the reporter.) 
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And who was present when the IN1 spoke to 
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you at your father's hoes.? 
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My stepmother wee thine, hat she wasn't 
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16 
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if that was taped or not, to be honest with you. 
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it was taped. 
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Mo. 
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Did any FDI agent, tell you that Jeff 
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preneatora diocesan • draft indictent with It. Man? 
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Do you sand If in Close the door 
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MR. LOOODAD: 
exhibit amebae: please. 
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Put up 21-005. 
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Ott at at. 
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Do toe know if Detective Recesiby has Moan 
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with your hither? 
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peata tossing your mouth? 
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the photograph, and lack of foundation sod 
predicate. 
fully explain if you need to. 
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O. 
Oleo does she live? 
A. 
1 don't know. 
In Royal Pale. 
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5 
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6 
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No, I do sot. 
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drinking. 
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Pretending to gang WOO Yw aM slide you with knives? 
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Ilho it. 
they? 
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Ara those? 
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two stabbing with knives. That's why I Old that. 
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Gosh, that's se long ego. 
Into took the photo of you Itching the 
Wy litopmether. 
whoa Idea -- that we your stepoutheo's 
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idea? 
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ft yds In legs dl Pippo, where she rocks 
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currently, sad that was befog* the worked there. And en 
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beat thought it would be (any. 
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SY M. !GIP 
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0. 
Oho took this photo of you simulating you 
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having sec with a men? 
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A. 
Ile'ree not simulating having sire and 
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know him 
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last nob. 
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no took this photo of you simulating sex 
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with a man, 
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sod with • roman? 
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W.. LWOW: Object to the fora of the 
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p000len. Azgoentatio. 
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TO lellOGSM run off, obs's piercing my 
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belly water or repenting it. and I'm pretty mire 
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In ellitInun o. 
6 
O. 
Oid you post that ore the Internet? 
7 
A. 
Yes. 
0 
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BY RR. 7.10. 
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Mow yogr boyfriend is 
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correct? 
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A. 
yeah. 
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15 
'soothing shout your relationship with 
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toe. 
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that your boyfriend Is stay 
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Tas. 
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Did you lie govt your age so that the tin 
12 
department wouldn't think teallErn 
remitting • 
13 
eria by hang a watel relatteniMp with en underage 
11 
girl? 
IS 
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16 
not laevidence. 
17 
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IS 
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20 
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Own the Vela Mach Pollee tegartedat know 
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thatlet 
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Lac of tom:dance, lack of predicate. 
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You an ansar the nestle'. 
9 
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I Ian newer been to a crack Mae. 
10 
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you in tot 
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M. LEOPOLD: Objection. Argumentative. 
12 
Don't 'newer the ingestion. 
13 
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IT M. MN 
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you? 
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simered. 
Don't answer the opinion. 
0. 
me. 
Yu ran enamor that question. 
M. LaShOLD; No. 1 just told her not to. 
You've Med that question Snit tin 
M. Rien No, I haven't. 
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a mean of the Pale match rite Department. 
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le baring • brawl /*Licit...ship with en anal' 
girl? 
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l'a ginning no. 
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DY M. RIP: 
10 
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halt, right/ 
M. L93,010/ 
Objection. Aramentente. 
ain't you/ 
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I have never lied for er te_ 
TOY lie about the fatt that one he. • drug 
11 
A. 
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I would tear awe: ay attar of 
15 
lain 
a dreg habit. 
16 
O. 
Do you try to conceal the fact that she has 
17 
• dreg Malt/ 
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M. LIOPOLO: 
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bY M. OM: 
20 
O. 
Te can anemi the Mallon. 
M. 
My slater don not have • tog habit. 
Toe lied when you went to the crack Ian 
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23 
24 
25 
0. 
Objection. Azipentatatiwo. 
le Carole, didn't yea 
M. LDIMOLD: 
Objection. krgementetive. 
Lack of CenmetIon, lace of predicate. 
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who's 
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My sister don not have a drug dealer. 
She 
13 
lino In Georgia with ay lather. 
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all night. tn• two or you, 'Ming drug. at Fula Mach 
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Country Estate. murre your tether called the police? 
10 
A. 
Ina 
19 
O. 
Ile'a the drug dealer/ 
20 
A. 
M la a drop dialer. 
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0. 
Oo you reenherillip wag arrested by the 
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Pala Dosch Police Determent and teen to the Joanne 
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Anateent Center that morning? 
24 
A. 
I do paean that. 
25 
0. 
666 before yeumasselnereteln. you were 
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Case 9:08-cv-3119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 30 of 35 
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involuntarily adaittni into a juvenile educational 
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facility; 
isn't that right? 
3 
Old you say towel aaaaa ily? 
4 
O. 
Yes. 
5 
A. 
Mo. I yes willing to go. 
I -- duly meld 
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And you weat them beceuee you we re lying 
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so moth. no one could Coattail your isn't that correCt? 
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That's very incorrect. 
10 
O. 
New you lie to your pared* all the ciao, 
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don't YOU? 
12 
A. 
Incorrect. 
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M. LEOPOLD: 
Objection. ArgunentatIve. 
14 
BY KA. 26110: 
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Sorry? 
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A. 
Incorrect. 
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The day you went Co tpitteln's haves you 
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lied to your father ebout where you were going; isn't 
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that correct? 
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A. 
correct. 
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O. 
You admitted to the police that you told 
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your father that you were going • O9Piel, didn't you? 
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Yee. 
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And that was a lie. wasn't It? 
25 
A. 
Yes. 
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O. 
And 1•10e it true that peer father has 
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accused roe of lying? 
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A. 
All the tine. 
4 
O. 
Didn't your father throw you out of the 
5 
hawse Thanksgiving of this pest year braes* you were 
6 
lying so much to Alai 
7 
A. 
Yes. he did kick se out. 
Mo. that's not 
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the reasons whit 
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O. 
Didn't your father throw your rrrrrr 
10 
out of the hoes.. too? 
11 
12 
led be threwhet out of the house be week 
13 
site: thrinkegivings, right? 
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r don't 'mow the date. but sure. 
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O. 
bonds about right? 
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h. 
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And the teamon be thrOw ter out Of the 
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hoes* was because she vas lying. teal 
0. taeteota: Objection. Leek or 
foundation. Calls for speoviation. 
Pt NI Tim: 
O. 
Shen your counsel coachea you, you gay it's 
correct, eight/ 
h. 
I've never been coached. 
Kt. 14:0•CCo: Objection. 
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MY HA. Tern 
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MOO your corneel that It was there 
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vas leek of foundation, you agree with your counsel. 
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right? 
I Ku like sealed, "Teat, let'. wove On,*
6 
because there was no point to asking that question. 
7 
O. 
Your father throw-wt 
of the house 
8 
became and was lying, cornett 
9 
KR. LEOPOLD: 
Objection. 
lack of 
10 
foundation. 
11 
Mold on, ow cat •• just wake the 
12 
objection. 
13 
Lack of foundatlOn, predicate, call. for 
14 
speculation. 
IS 
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TRIM: 
16 
O. 
Answer. 
17 
A. 
l'n sot ay sister. 
1 don't know. 
15 
O. 
I rant to sow what you know only. 
19 
A. 
I don't tnov. 
20 
O. 
You dart 
know. That's year lisover? 
21 
A. 
Yes. 
22 
0. 
Nov your parents filed the police report 
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regarding Mr. Castel*, right? 
24 
A. 
Yoe. 
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Nov pear parents are also lying. aren't 
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they? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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to. 12OPO1.4): 
hat as the record is clear, 
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the father -- teens, the *other was um with. 
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M. ICIP: liod't testify, Counsel. 
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MR. tCOPOLO: 
So the record Is clear, lost 
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the father. 
The mother was --
6 
IS. SALM: Cavitil. dint coach and 
testily, please. That's abeelotoly KAProPes: 
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MR. LEOPOLD: 
You Jett *eked the strong 
11 
qUOgtiOn. 
12 
la. IBIS: 
Yoe can't teach her that way and 
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you well knew Lt. 
14 
IS. 140201.0: 
ror the reeend, lira the 
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father. 
See reisarrie4„ I this:: on his third 
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earrial•• 
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KR. }BIN: 
You cenaot -- it's 
absolutely. 
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totally against the ruler' and yes know It. 
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KB. L84:4O4O: The natural SOUP,' lives in 
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Goorgio. 
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NB. ?SIN: row need to baste Yourself. 
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lawyer. 
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Ma. Lior2LO: the natural pother lives in 
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Site father La here locally. 
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Stop coaching. Stan talking. 
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Document 15-2 
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Page 31 of 35 
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fit you? bey don't you gioadatand e  
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new. Give eht • five-miner. 'pooch, Mr. Letepeed. 
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MR. LONID: Are you (ARUM'S. for the 
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record? 
MR. TRIM: I'. not talking to you. ce What 
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Don't say anything 
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Tour pa ccccc , it. filed No pollee report 
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to. LEOPOLD, 
tweet *flavor the quesaloO. 
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were not going to ewer until I ante the record. 
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the record, now that ColiaNal 
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appears tow finished with lale connont• for the 
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record. that the preview. Nation wa• 
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your lawsuit money away fro, you? 
Don't look to your lowyor for the &never. 
HR. UNFOLD: 
bra can antaor if you hoes 
the ,soot to it. 
t have no idea. 
1145 WINIESte, 
yeah. 
DV IS. ?Cite 
Q. 
And your father filed a Iseult. .the float 
lavnit for fifty Melba d011ate against M. Epatoin 
without contalting you, correct? 
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A. 
Correct. 
11 
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And year father had a lawyer file the float 
12 
lemoult on your behalf for fifty million dollere agalut 
13 
Wt. Patel* %debt,* your knowledge, correct? 
14 
A. 
Correct. 
15 
O. 
And you don't trust your father, do you? 
16 
Correct. 
17 
O. 
Aha you belie,* he'• trying to nianIpaLata 
18 
re for hie own gal*, don't you? 
19 
A. 
Sent of. 
20 
0. 
Hell, 
you item that your mother filed • 
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.tetenn, 
en affidavit, saying that you don't trust your 
22 
father god that you believe ha's trying to manipulate you 
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Ica hie own gain, 'sort that cotioctl 
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A. 
Correct. 
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0. 
You agree with that stators«, don't you] 
Ph. 
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Papa 118 
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Tour verene, oho filed the pollen report 
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in this cage, aro alto Proven alarea aren't they/ 
3 
M. LE0/010: 
Same objection. 
*1 MR. 7400. 
5 
O. 
Aron't your parents lien? 
6 
S. LEOPOLD, 
Calla for speculation. 
Lack 
of predicate. 
UR. 7115, Stop ceochbeg. 
You blow what 
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that la, Leopold. 
10 
M. mono: 
calla for speculation. 
Lack .
11 
of foundation. 
12 
VAS INMES: 
Shoe you say parent., ty mot 
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1. lot, but sure, reedit, ler dad bee been to 1•14 
14 
for lying. 
15 
at ult. TtIP: 
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0. 
Tout dad Net ta federal prieoe for two 
17 
years for lying, right? 
le 
A. 
Correct. 
19 
0. 
Did he tell you it tee for a financial 
20 
(rood/ 
21 
A. 
lbs. 
22 
O. 
IQ( *toiling they Cr- emu financial 
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tAttitution, 
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A. 
Correct. 
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DO you trust your stepmother, 
ity ategeOtheir, no. 
0. 
Yon think oho's 4149 trying to Steal your 
5 
Ebetoin bootie nefuet awe, fret you, don't You? 
6 
A. 
I would like to clarify something. 
You 
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keep saying me Epstein lawsuit ~toy. 
I don't have ant 
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monter' and it'. 
just a lawsuit et the mesant. io I just 
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don't tenet her. 
10 
You think that your stepmother le 
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try'''. to teve advantage of this lawsuit CO tly co got 
12 
Dewey true me. totelm that belongs to you, regret? 
13 
A. 
Yee. 
14 
Q. 
Did your 9[N:bother tell you why she wag 
15 
arreated? 
16 
17 
Q. 
Did your atestothor tell you that *he's 
18 
ever been arrested? 
19 
A. 
20 
O. 
Did she tell you she vem arrested tot 
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fraud? 
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A. 
Peter. 
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Ilauthorree Aviation? 
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Page 32 of 35 
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Old she tell you that eke vet fired free 
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Ihiehogne Aviation Ler stealing? 
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A. 
Bo. 
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Kr. ?ZIP: 
bet's tote a break. 
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Inwood*, 
a recess was tarn./ 
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ST MR. VEIN: 
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afore 
you net Jeffrey Efiet•in, had 
you ewer had renal intermered/ 
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lbs. yeah. 
10 
O. 
MOvaany tines? 
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A. 
Just • few. 
Twice. 
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With how nasty dlfinwt 
Mn? 
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A. 
OMB 
being one year older than nor 
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end then the other person was two yearn elder then ea. 
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plat was his nem/ 
18 
A. 
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0. 
How old were you when you fi rst had meal 
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intescoure7 
21 
A. 
N. 
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O. 
Row sale -- before yon net Epstein, bow 
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nasty different see had you had say type of sexual 
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activity with> 
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Just those two. 
col. 
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laser color copied to that we MTh • copy. ad l's 
assalog he'll get a copy to the wort reporter. 
Lee, to attach. actually a certified copy to the 
demi:talon. 
KR. EOLCIIIMP: tone. 
XX. IEOPOID: 
That's If yea agree to that. 
If not, thee I watt to pull nen ore out and put 
exhibit labels on the. which w should de before 
we leave. 
GCCOMPCM: 
Ire' r• tot going re do 
either. I'll 
have coMes not to the coon 
reporter end abs Mn attach then to the 
deposition. 
MR. LIZIOLIM 
So you're not going to agree 
to what we talked about tiering the break then. 
M. 02/.01101011: I'a ate quit.  mii• what 
your asti r 
se to 00. tel ea Lintel.. 
11010 W: 
Okay. 
Sure. 
That's flee. 
GoLONIThtel 
Okay. If you want a* to 
go over to a. —office 
and Sake copies 
end then 
give these to the cent reporter, 
fie*. 
All i•• legieg I. that I would avoid that 
propel. 
I veld few *spiel. to the cent 
reporter. Mt if it vitt use you 
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Are you 'eying you never hissed • see other 
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than inns trot 
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HA. LEOPOLD: 
CdectIon to the fogs of the 
4 
question. 
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TM! IlingESSI 
Yee. I had %lead people 
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before. 
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ST IS. Trion 
before you vat Epstein. had you ever had 
oral Mx? 
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liver in your Ilia, have you exchanged sex 
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for seething Of valve? 
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R. 
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MR. tt lIll 
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VIE Winne: 
Ob. okay. 
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need. 
It 
In. ISMS 
1 don't have any 
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Thestiono. tide you. 
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le. LEOPOLD: 
before we go off the record, 
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It's 
ymderstanding -- Kr. Ooldoeder caa 
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effect the Thee -- but n have stipulated that ..
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color copies of the daunts that were ideatined 
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for lebnibifloatlen certainly will he attached to 
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the deposition end counsel will be tains the 
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Ka. LEOPOLD: lre sot laterniptbe now. 
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DIR. COLIAMAGan 
Dug if It will sake you 
happier if I go nee to No. 
office 
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and este • copy of those photos be 
we e pert of 
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this deposition and thee 1'11 give thee to the 
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roust gene fffff 
P II be Man to de it. 
KA. 1501012: 
I trust you InPlicitly. 
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however you with to do it. 
leaver, the 
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decusints. before they leave this rota. need to 
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MTh as exhibit sticky on than with the 
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elistoPrIst• 
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debit MTh any. 
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M. LEOPOLD: 
I will do that. 
exeunt me. 
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goo can't do 
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that to the noun reporter. she's going to stroke 
IB 
out. row can't de that. The have to let Se --
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flesh your eestenCe. Ted. 
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nee 
year ttttt nee. 
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Jack, tell his not to raise 
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to then 
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Document 15-2 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION 
CASE NO. 08-80119-CIV-MARRA 
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WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 
JANE DOE, et al., 
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TRANSCRIPT OF MOTION HEARING 
BEFORE THE HONORABLE KENNETH A. MARRA, 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE 
APPEARANCES: 
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ADAM D. HOROWITZ, ESQ. 
Mermelstein & Horowitz 
18205 Biscayne Boulevard 
Miami, FL 33160 
305.931.2200 
For Jane Doe 
BRADLEY J. EDWARDS, ESQ. 
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Rothstein Rosenfeldt Adler 
401 East Las Olas Boulevard 
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Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 
Jane Doe 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 
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ISIDRO M. 
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Elkins Boehringer 
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224 Datura Avenue 
West Palm Beach, FL 33401 
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Jane DOE II 
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RICHARD H. WILLITS, ESQ. 
2290 10th Avenue North 
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Lake Worth, FL 33461 
For C.M.A. 
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ROBERT C. JOSEFSBERG, ESQ. 
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Podhurst Orseck Josefsberg 
25 West Flagler Street 
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Miami, FL 33130 
For Jane Doe 101 
305.358.2800 
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(Via telephone) 
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KATHERINE W. EZELL, ESQ. 
Podhurst Orseck Josefsberg 
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25 West Flagler Street 
Miami, FL 33130 
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305.358.2800 
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ROBERT D. CRITTON, JR., ESQ. 
MICHAEL BURMAN, ESQ. 
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Burman Critton, etc. 
515 North Flagler Street 
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West Palm Beach, FL 33401 
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Atterbury Goldberger Weiss 
250 Australian Avenue South 
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Boston MA 02116 
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JAY LEFKOWITZ, ESQ. 
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Miami, FL 33128 
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THE COURT: We are here in the various Doe vs. Epstein 
cases. 
May I have counsel state their appearances? 
MR. HOROWITZ: Adam Horowitz, counsel for plaintiffs 
Jane 2 through Jane Doe 7. 
THE COURT: Good morning. 
MR. EDWARDS: Brad Edwards, counsel for plaintiff Jane 
Doe. 
THE COURT: Good morning. 
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Good morning, Your Honor. Sid 
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Jane Doe II. 
THE COURT: Good morning. 
MR. WILLITS: Good morning, Your Honor. Richard 
Willits, here on behalf of the plaintiff C.M.A.. 
THE COURT: Good morning. 
MS. EZELL: Good morning, Your Honor. I'm Katherine 
Ezell from Podhurst Orseck, here with Amy Adderly and Susan 
Bennett, and I believe my partner, Bob Josefsberg, is going to 
appear by telephone. 
THE COURT: Mr. Josefsberg, are you there? 
MR. JOSEFSBERG: I am, Your Honor. 
THE COURT: Good morning. 
MR. JOSEFSBERG: Good morning. 
THE COURT: All right. Do we have all the plaintiffs 
stated their appearances? 
Okay. 
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Defense? 
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MR. CRITTON: Your Honor, Robert Critton on behalf of 
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THE COURT: Good morning. 
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MR. GOLDBERGER: Good morning, Your Honor. Jack 
6 Goldberger on behalf of Mr. Epstein. 
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THE COURT: I see we have some representatives from 
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THE COURT: Good morning. 
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Who else do we have on the phone? 
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MR. CRITTON: Your Honor, we have two members of the 
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THE COURT: Who do we have on the phone? 
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MR. WEINBERG: Martin Weinberg. Good morning, Your 
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MR. LEFKOWITZ: Jay Lefkowitz. Good morning, Your 
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THE COURT: Good morning. 
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I scheduled this hearing for very limited issues 
22 which, as you all know, there's been a motion by Mr. Epstein to 
23 stay the civil proceedings against him. The one issue I have 
24 concern about is Mr. Epstein's contention or assertion that by 
25 defending against the allegations in the civil proceedings, he 
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1 may expose himself to an allegation by the United States in the 
2 non-prosecution agreement that he's violated that agreement and 
3 therefore would subject himself to potential federal charges. 
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I had asked for some briefing on this. I asked the 
S United States to present its position to me. And I received 
6 the Government's written response, which I frankly didn't find 
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MR. CRITTON: To my knowledge, Your Honor, it has not. 
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THE COURT: So I don't believe I've ever seen the 
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MR. EDWARDS: Your Honor, I believe that it was filed 
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THE COURT: Okay. 
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MR. EDWARDS: In a separate case. 
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THE COURT: In that case, okay. Was it actually filed 
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MR. EDWARDS: I filed it under seal. 
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THE COURT: In any event, what's Mr. Epstein's concern 
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