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I did not. 
Q. 
So your suspicions were never -- your 
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curiosity was never piqued at all as to why these cars 
are being placed in your name? 
A. 
My curiosity was piqued. 
Q • 
You never asked him the question, you just 
agreed to do it? 
A. 
That's correct. 
Q. 
That goes for the Jaguar X-Type? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Are you familiar with a motorcycle, Big Dog 
Chopper Motorcycle, 2003? 
A. 
That is mine. 
Q. 
Yours? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Registered in your name for a good purpose, 
right? 
A. 
Yes, it is. 
Q. 
At your house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
You use it? 
A. 
Absolutely. 
Q. 
All right. Ford F-250, 2008, registered in 
your name, are you familiar with that? 
A. 
It's not registered in my name. 
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Okay. So if that's registered in your name, 
that would be a shock to you? 
That would be a surprise 
to you? 
A. 
Yes, it would be. 
Q. 
There should be no documentation from you 
where you would be the registered owner of the Ford 
F-250? 
A. 
What year? 
Q. 
2008. 
A. 
I remember buying that car. 
I just -- that 
shouldn't be in my name. 
Q. 
What do you mean you remember buying that car? 
A. 
I do a lot -- I do all the car purchases for 
Mr. Epstein. I'm a car fanatic, so for years I've been 
the car-shopper. 
I'm the car fanatic. 
Q. 
Okay. But these cars aren't classic vehicles. 
These are vehicles that are not being refurbished or 
anything, they're being driven around town? 
A. 
No, but they're fun. The new Range Rover is a 
nice car. 
Q. 
This Ford F250, that's a car also that's Palm 
Beach -- as you would say a Palm Beach car? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
That's a car that stays at your house? 
A. 
No. 
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Who drives that car, Ford F-250? 
A. 
That was shipped to St. Thomas. 
Q. 
For who to use and for what purpose? 
A. 
Well, that car should have been put under LSJ, 
Q. 
What's LSJ, LLC? 
A. 
Little St. James. 
Q. 
And that's a corporation? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Your understanding is that's a corporation 
affiliated with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
I know it's a corporation. 
I don't know its 
affiliation to Jeffrey. 
Q. 
At this point in time, the way that this car 
comes about is through a conversation with yourself and 
Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
Yes, yes. 
Q. 
So to make some representation that this --
that this corporation LSJ, LLC, you're not sure if that 
has any affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
I don't have any facts to tie the two 
together. 
Q. 
Common sense would dictate? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. 
Again, that's not a car that you use, the Ford 
F-250? 
A. 
No, it's not even here. 
Q. 
And when you say on St. Thomas, is it on 
actual St. Thomas, or is it on Little St. James? 
A. 
No, it's on St. Thomas. It's a work vehicle. 
Q. 
For whom? 
A. 
For the workers, for the island. 
MR. REINHART: 
Be careful to answer his 
question. 
I think his question is, is it on 
St. Thomas or Little St. James island? 
Where 
physically is the car, if you know. 
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I don't know for a fact. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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It's your understanding it's on St. Thomas? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And when you say "the workers," what's going 
on on St. Thomas to where there's workers that need an 
F-250? 
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Just moving sand. 
I don't know the exact 
detail for it. 
Q. 
What were you told about the need for this car 
to be on St. Thomas? 
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They need a work truck. 
Q. 
To do what? 
A. 
I don't know what the detail or the -- you 
know, what the job detail was for the truck. They just 
needed a work truck. 
Q. 
So Jeffrey Epstein tells you they need a work 
truck on St. Thomas and that's the only description that 
you're given? 
A. 
Yes, to go purchase and get the best deal I 
can on a pickup truck, and that's what I did and for 
some reason it got put in my name. 
(Off the record discussion.) 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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Whose money was used to purchase the truck. 
You say you purchased the truck. 
I want the record to 
be clear whether you're purchasing it with your money? 
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No, this was wire-transferred. 
It was a -- I 
don't remember how that -- I think it was a wire 
transfer or a check was FedExed from the New York office 
to pay for that. That should not be in my name, is what 
I'm getting at. 
I'll certainly change that, but I 
thought you were --
Q. 
I understand that. 
A. 
No, I'm being -- yeah, I didn't. 
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34-foot JVC Powerboat, 2000, owner LSJ, LLC, 
registered to Larry Visoski. Do you know that? 
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Yes. 
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You knew that that boat was registered in your 
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It's registered to LSJ. 
It's Jeffrey's boat 
that we keep here in West Palm Beach. 
Q. 
And do you keep it at your home? 
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No. 
Q. 
Do you know that the registration is to your 
home? 
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It's used in my home address, yes. 
Q. 
Why was that done? 
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We were eventually going to ship it out to 
St. Thomas for it to live, but since Jeffrey's here, 
we're keeping it in Florida, and when we ship the boat 
over, we will change title to the Little St. James 
address. 
Q. 
What do you mean "since Jeffrey's here we're 
keeping it in Florida"? 
What does Jeffrey being here 
have to do with keeping a boat that's registered in your 
name and to your address --
A. 
Well, I have access to use the boat, you know, 
here in Florida, but it's Jeffrey's boat. 
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Okay. 
And by "Jeffrey's boat," it was 
purchased with Jeffrey's money? 
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That is correct. 
cost? 
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Do you know how much that cost? 
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I think it was 60,000. 
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Do you know how much the Ford F-250 cost? 
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Twenty-five, I'm guessing, ballpark. 
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Do you know how much the Jaguar X-Type cost? 
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11,000. 
Q. 
Do you know how much the Mercedes-Benz CLK 
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35,000. 
Q. 
Do you know how much the Land Rover cost? 
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68,000. 
Q. 
Do you know how much the Mercedes-Benz SUV 
cost, that's yours, right? The Chevy Suburban is yours 
as well? 
A. 
Yes, I remember how much those cost too. 
Q. 
Is there another boat, 35-foot Donzi 
powerboat, 1999? 
A. 
That's the one I thought you were talking 
about originally. 
Q • 
That's the same boat? 
A. 
That's the same boat. 
Q • 
Is there any other boat that's registered in 
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your name? 
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No. 
Q. 
Did you know that in 
let me ask you this: 
Do you have a 2003 Ferrari F75-M? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
Any reason why the car is registered in your 
name and the asking price is $159,000 being sold in New 
York? 
A. 
That car is not registered in my name. 
Q. 
If it's registered --
A. 
The ad is in my name. 
Q. 
Why is the ad in your name? 
A. 
Because I was trying to sell it. 
Q. 
Why were you trying to sell it? 
A. 
It was Jeffrey's car and we didn't want it 
anymore. 
Q. 
Why would he put his pilot in charge of 
selling his Ferrari? 
A. 
Because I bought it. 
Q. 
How much did you buy it for? 
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179,000. Now, when I say "I bought it," it 
was his money. 
I was the one that negotiated it, to be 
clear. It was his car for use in New York. 
Q. 
Are you aware of the Zorro Trust winning an 
85 million-dollar Power Ball lottery in 2008? 
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No. 
MR. CRITTON: Say that again. 
MR. EDWARDS: The 2orro Trust winning an 
85 million-dollar -- claiming the ticket for 
85 million-dollar Power Ball ticket in 2008. 
THE WITNESS: 
No. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. 
Have you ever listed your employer as 
Ghislaine Air in making political contributions? 
A. 
I may have. 
Q. 
Did you know that you had made political 
contributions --
A. 
Yes, I have. 
Q. 
-- listing your --
A. 
I needed a company name for that event, and I 
had put Air Ghislaine. 
Q. 
And NES, LLC wouldn't do? 
A. 
I didn't think of it at the time. 
Q. 
Did somebody tell you to use Air Ghislaine 
rather than the company that has been paying you? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
You just chose to use an employer that isn't 
actually your employer, nor have they ever been? 
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I represent Air Ghislaine, JEGE and Hyperion 
as chief pilot, so I consider those really the companies 
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that I work for and never really associated myself with 
NES, LLC as my realistic employer. 
So when I go to a 
convention, an aviation convention, and somebody says 
who do you work for, I use the name JEGE because that's 
the name of the Boeing company. 
Q. 
But when I sit here and ask you who you work 
for, you give me a different answer. 
A. 
You're asking for the absolute correct answer, 
which is where my paycheck comes from, which is NES, 
LLC. 
I probably have used that twice in 17 or 18 years 
as my employer. 
Q. 
Do you know 
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I know the name, yes. 
Q. 
How do you know her? 
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I've seen her on the airplane a couple times. 
Q. 
Somebody that you know to be involved 
romantically or sexually with Jeffrey Epstein at any 
time? 
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I don't know that. 
Q. 
Are there any other cars, vehicles, items, 
other things that are registered in your name that are 
actually Jeffrey Epstein's? 
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No. 
You've actually covered them all and 
actually shed light on some that I did not realize, like 
that Ford. 
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Mr. Edwards, he needs to expand 
upon one earlier answer he gave when you asked him 
if he knew anybody else who worked at the Florida 
Science Foundation. 
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Okay. 
A. 
My wife worked there. 
When you used the words 
"worked there" -- or not referring to her as a past 
tense, but she worked there when it first opened 
answering the phones. 
Q. 
What's your wife's name? 
A. 
Eileen. 
Q. 
How does she spell that? 
A. 
E-I-L-E-E-N. 
Q. 
Same last name as you? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How long did she work there? 
A. 
A month, maybe. 
Q. 
And she was answering the phones for the 
Florida Science Foundation? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Do you have a good relationship with your 
wife? 
A. 
I think so. 
Q. 
You still don't know what the Florida Science 
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No, because she doesn't. 
Q. 
She doesn't know what it does either? 
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We never talked about it. 
Q. 
You never talked to your wife about what she 
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No. 
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He knew she was answering 
phones. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. 
Do you know of any other employees, friends, 
agents, relatives of Jeffrey Epstein who he places his 
property in their names, registers them in his names or 
anybody else? 
A. 
Not to my knowledge. 
I don't know. 
Q. 
To your knowledge, you're the only person? 
A. 
I'm the only one I'm aware of. 
Q. 
And with respect to minor girls being on the 
airplane, that being under the age of IS, how many times 
would you say that you have flown girls into the 
country, into the United States where you have given a 
date of birth to Customs of somebody on the airplane 
that is under the age of 18? 
A. 
I'd have to look at flight records to verify 
or give you a correct answer. 
I don't know any to my 
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Q. 
What flight records would you have to look at? 
A. 
The passenger manifests. 
Q. 
Passenger manifests would have the date of 
birth on it? 
A. 
No. It would have a name, but I don't have --
Q. 
But at some point in time you remember people, 
minor date of births, coming into the country and that 
being turned over to Customs? 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
THE WITNESS: 
I don't remember anybody 
transporting on the airplane from the country back 
into the U.S. that was a minor, to my knowledge. 
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Okay. 
Within the country, minors flying 
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I don't know. 
Q. 
-- on a plane? 
A. 
I don't know dates of birth. 
Q. 
And any people that you knew to be minors on 
the airplane, were they always accompanied by parents or 
were there minors on the airplane that you're aware of 
that were not accompanied by parents? 
A. 
I didn't know either way. 
I mean, people 
would get on the airplane and get off the airplane. 
could tell you there were times people would get on that 
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I didn't even know were on the airplane. 
Our focus is 
up front. 
Q. 
Was there a massage table on the airplane? 
A. 
Which aircraft? 
Q. 
On any of them? 
A. 
The Boeing used to have a table on there, but 
it stayed in the same spot and appeared to be never 
used. 
Q. 
Okay. So to the best of your knowledge, you 
have no knowledge of that massage table on the airplane 
ever being used? 
A. 
Correct. 
MR. EDWARDS: 
I don't have anything else. 
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Mr. Visoski, I have just a few questions. 
You 
were just asked about a massage table on the -- any of 
Mr. Epstein's airplanes and you said there was a massage 
- able on the Boeing? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. 
Was there always a massage table on the 
Boeing or just for a period of time? 
A. 
Just for a period of time. 
Q. 
All right. 
And who's responsible for cleaning 
up the airplane after Mr. Epstein and/or the guests 
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A. 
Us as the crew. 
Q. 
Okay. So if a massage table had ever been 
used, it would have been you and the crew who would have 
been responsible for either taking towels or doing 
something with the massage table? 
A. 
Absolutely. 
Q. 
And if I understood your testimony, you never 
saw a circumstance where it appeared to you that the 
massage table had been used in any manner; is that 
correct? 
A. 
That is correct. It stayed in the same 
location since the day it was put on there. 
Q. 
You were asked a bunch -- a number of 
questions about Mr. Epstein, I'll use this --
Mr. Epstein is the person who directed you generally 
unless one of -- someone else who worked on his behalf 
called you and asked you to, say, set up a time to leave 
or pick up luggage, et cetera. 
My question to you is 
this: 
Have you flown in the past for other private 
individuals like Mr. Epstein, i.e., as distinct from a 
commercial? 
A. 
Yes, I have. 
Q. 
And approximately have you flown for four, 
five, six other private individuals over the years? 
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Three. 
I had a short career as far as 
transferring of owners. 
Q. 
In terms of transferring to the other owners, 
separate and apart from Mr. Epstein, again, every 
individual is different, but was your relationship 
really any different with any of those other 
individuals? That is, you were in essence -- you were 
hired to perform a specific task: Fly an airplane to 
get from Point A to Point B and get the people there 
safely? 
A. 
My first job, corporate-wise, was for an owner 
in Miami and I was hired as a pilot, but yet, I would go 
to his house and maintain a boat that was in the back of 
his house above and beyond my call of duty because I had 
an interest in boats. 
It's just something I like to do. 
But I always treated Mr. Epstein like any of the other 
prior clients that I had as owners. 
I knew that I was 
not afraid to work for a living, and they understood 
that. 
Q. 
And it sounds like at least the first owner 
that you worked for asked you to do similar things that 
you've done for Mr. Epstein, such as take care of a boat 
or purchase a boat or maintain the boat? 
A. 
Sure, absolutely. 
Q. 
So your relationship with Mr. Epstein with 
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regard to if you bought boats or you bought cars on his 
behalf, that's very similar to your prior experience 
with working with another private individual? 
A. 
That is correct 
Q • 
In terms of the records, the manner in which 
you flew the plane or 
I don't want to say flew the 
plane, but in which you operated and maintained the 
plane for Mr. Epstein are substantially the same you've 
done with other private individuals? 
A. 
Right, exactly the same. 
We wouldn't treat 
Mr. Epstein any different than any prior -- previous 
jobs that I had. 
It's the same routine we carry over 
and that's why we're good at what we do. 
We take care 
of the airplanes to the best of our ability. 
Q. 
Is your focus as the pilot, as the captain of 
both of the airplanes when you took over that 
responsibility a number of years ago, is it your 
obligation to get the passengers there safely -- onboard 
and safely to the destination and then return? 
A. 
Yes, that was always job number one. 
Q. 
And most of us have had I'd say a much more 
substantial experience in flying commercial planes and I 
rarely see -- in fact, I can't remember the last time 
particularly after 2001 I saw the pilots coming back 
into the cabin shaking hands and helping distribute the 
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snacks or liquids. Maybe I'm not on the same flights 
that some of the other lawyers here are, but I assume 
you fly commercial from time to time? 
A. 
Sure. 
Q. 
Do you ever see the pilots interacting with 
the people who are in the back of the airplane? 
A. 
No, not at all. They stay at their station up 
front. 
Q. 
You got -- as the captain of the planes, when 
you're flying, you have substantial responsibilities not 
only to the people on the plane, but as well to the air 
space which you're flying? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. By the way, we've been here about 
for about an hour and ten -- we started about ten. It's 
now 3:30. Did you ever hear the name L.M.? 
Has 
Mr. Edwards ever asked you one question about 
MR. EDWARDS: Is the question have you ever 
heard of her or did I ask any questions about her, 
or did you ask both questions and give the same 
answer? 
MR. CRITTON: I'll break them down. 
MR. EDWARDS: It doesn't matter to me. 
BY MR. CRITTON: 
Q. 
Did you ever meet an individual by the name of 
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A. 
No, I have not. 
D. 
Did Mr. Edwards, in approximately four hours, 
little over four hours of questioning, ever ask you one 
question about 
that you can recall? 
A. 
Not that I recall. 
Q. 
Have you ever heard the name III.? Did you 
ever know someone named 
A. 
Never heard that name. 
Q. 
In approximately four-and-a-half hours of 
questioning by Mr. Edwards, did he ever ask you about 
A. 
No, he did not. 
Q. 
In approximately the -- are you familiar with 
an individual by the name of Jane Doe( 
A. 
I never heard that name. 
Q. 
In approximately four-and-a-half hours of 
questioning by Mr. Edwards, did he ever ask you 
questions about Jane Doe(_)? 
A. 
No, he did not. 
MR. CRITTON: That's all I have. 
MR. EDWARDS: 
I only have two questions based 
on what your testimony just was to Mr. Critton. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. 
You said you had three other people that 
you've flown for? 
A. 
Three other previous jobs. I'm trying to be 
as accurate. 
Q. 
Those are private individuals? 
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A. 
That is correct. 
Q. 
And who are those people? 
A. 
Herb Glimpsure in Columbus, Ohio, and Edward 
Seltzer in Miami. 
And then the other was Tom Boyd, and 
that was more of a Learjet charter, but he was the owner 
of five Learjets. Those are my only three jobs in my 
life. 
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Also wealthy individuals? 
A. 
Big time. 
Q. 
And did you know what they did for a living? 
A. 
Those I did, yes. 
Q. 
And did you ever go visit any of those people 
in jail? 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
THE WITNESS: 
I know my first individual had 
trouble with the law after I had left. 
I don't 
remember what it was pertaining to; but no, I never 
visited any of them in jail, no, sir. 
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