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FEDERALBURRADOFINVEHUGKHON 
amorerniry 
 
04/17/20,1
date of birth (DOB) 
was interviewed pursuant 
to a proffer agreement via video conference. Present for the interview was 
attorney 
, along with Assistant United States 
Attorneys 
, Special Agent 
, and Detective IIII 
. After being advised of the identity of the 
above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided 
the following information: 
was managed by 
-; 
was 
assistant. 
was a "runner" who ran errands. 
and 
worked out of GHISLAINE MAXWELL's home. When 
was first hired by 
JEFFREY EPSTEIN, she was given more informal tasks while she was modeling. 
One of her first tasks was to go to MAXWELL's house, where MAXWELL gave her 
a list of items, like toiletries to pick up for the 301 66th Street address. 
was EPSTEIN's assistant. 
saw 
working with MAXWELL 
as well. Some relationships were more formal and "office like", but 
and MAXWELL's relationship was more friendly. 
Tasks that MAXWELL gave to 
were errands like buying shampoo and 
shirts for her and wanting 
to clean the office. In New York, the 
office inside MAXWELL's house was small with three desks. 
shared a 
desk with MAXWELL. MAXWELL spent time at EPSTEIN's other residents. 
recalled the strange message she received from JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 
English was not great at the time. MAXWELL thought the message 
was funny. MAXWELL either assisted or directed 
in how to write the 
message. 
had always felt a bit intimidated by MAXWELL. MAXWELL's attitude 
came across that she was better than everyone else. 
was 
uncomfortable around MAXWELL and limited her time around her. 
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MAXWELL overlooked everything with EPSTEIN. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN seemed 
to have a family like relationship. 
was aware that MAXWELL and 
EPSTEIN used to date. 
was also aware that the house MAXWELL lived 
in in New York used to belong to EPSTEIN. In EPSTEIN's houses, MAXWELL had 
a bedroom and an office. In Palm Beach, MAXWELL's office was a small room 
above the kitchen. In EPSTEIN's master bedroom, he had two bathrooms where 
the one to the left was where the massages took place, and the other room 
had a large closet where 
saw MAXWELL's clothes hanging. 
recalled that in New Mexico MAXWELL had a bedroom. 
thought it may 
have been 
who mentioned MAXWELL's bedroom because she was assigning 
bedrooms. 
recalled 
had stayed in MAXWELL's bedroom in New 
Mexico. At every one of EPSTEIN's properties, MAXWELL acted almost like an 
owner; people treated her like an owner. 
spent approximately 15-20% of the time around MAXWELL. While in 
Palm Beach, 
home was in proximity so she would get time off; she 
would not always be around EPSTEIN's house. 
was mostly there at the 
Palm Beach residence. 
recalled traveling with MAXWELL approximately 
15-20% of the time. 
recalled traveling to New Mexico with MAXWELL 
twice. 
recalled traveling to Aspen with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. 
and EPSTEIN went to see LES WEXNER. 
recalled MAXWELL being 
there with a group of women and chewing them out. 
recalled when a new house manager, JANUSZ BANASIAK, started in 
Palm Beach and brought in fresh flowers, MAXWELL was impressed. 
remembered a time where MAXWELL questioned her on the ice in the water she 
was taking to EPSTEIN, asking if the ice was made from Evian. 
While in Palm Beach, EPSTEIN received two massages a day. If 
traveled with EPSTEIN, sometimes 
would call from New York to set up 
the massages. 
sometimes send the initial schedule and 
would call. EPSTEIN then 
wanted 
to confirm and reconfirm with them; she would have to call in 
the evening and then the next morning. 
job was to reconfirm with them. 
would 
did not recall MAXWELL confirming massages. ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ 
may have confirmed massages. 
When 
was asked if she was aware of MAXWELL's knowledge of EPSTEIN 
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getting massages, she replied yes. In general, it was common knowledge 
EPSTEIN had two massages a day. 
talked about a time in New Mexico 
where EPSTEIN treated them to an outside location spa facility. MAXWELL 
told 
they needed to find a pretty masseuse for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN 
sent MAXWELL, 
and possibly 
to a spa facility where each of 
them were to be treated to a massage. MAXWELL said the masseuse for EPSTEIN 
must be pretty and must be good at massage. MAXWELL said this to the group. 
The phone books were contact address books. The pastel colored books 
were EPSTEIN's books while the black small books were MAXWELL's books. 
There was a section for massage contacts in them. 
EPSTEIN noted once that when he and MAXWELL dated that MAXWELL would 
bring more girls for threesomes, saying they were sexual relationships. 
did not recall when or where EPSTEIN said this to her. EPSTEIN told 
that MAXWELL brought him girls. As of the date of this interview, 
impression was that this was for sexual activities. It surprised 
that MAXWELL would bring other girls in for sex. When EPSTEIN told 
this she did not think that was something MAXWELL would do. 
recalled MAXWELL dating other men. 
described MAXWELL as "high end 
and sophisticated" and did not think "those types" of people would do that. 
EPSTEIN's expectations were when he had girlfriends they would have to 
bring other girls in. When 
dated EPSTEIN they brought 
in for sex and she told 
that she 
had to find 
other girls for EPSTEIN. 
When 
was asked about what she said in a prior interview about 
MAXWELL participating in threesomes, 
replied that she was talking 
about what she just referenced in regards to EPSTEIN telling 
that 
MAXWELL participated in threesomes. 
At the time 
worked for EPSTEIN from 2004-2006 she did not get a 
sense that he and MAXWELL were still in a romantic relationship. 
thought they were in a relationship years prior to 
working for 
them. 
took a lot of photographs, some of them of 
described them as "model type" photographs possibly for Victoria's Secret. 
was in jeans and a tank top on the island along the beach. 
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asked her to take off her top and bra, telling 
that EPSTEIN said it 
was ok. These types of photographs of other girls were on display all over 
EPSTEIN's houses. These photographs were kept in large binders at MAXWELL's 
house. They were in thumbnail form with Compact Disk's (CD) attached. 
There was a large commercial printer at MAXWELL's New York house where the 
thumbnails were printed; 
thought this was possibly why the binders 
were kept there. 
described the binders as large with packets and 
the photographs were burned onto CDs. There were contact sheets with 
thumbnails, so they knew which photographs were on which CD. These binders 
were stored in a large cabinet located past the three desks in MAXWELL's 
office in her New York home. 
, and 
worked 
there. There were approximately 8-10 binders of photographs. There were 
other photographs as well. 
described a time in Palm Beach where she 
was on the couch with IIII 
and 
stripped, took off her top, and 
danced. EPSTEIN nudged 
to get the camera to take photographs. 
Either 
or 
put together the binders. Everything was at the 
request of EPSTEIN. 
enjoyed taking photographs; she had a nice 
camera. MAXWELL asked them to clean the office once. 
felt MAXWELL 
must have observed the printer and binders were there. They were intimate 
photographs so they would not have been printed commercially. The intimate 
photographs were of different women in binders that were mainly topless with 
modal like poses. Some photographs were in EPSTEIN's gym along the whole 
wall - they were all topless photographs. 
described the photographs 
as 
women with an unknown age range. When asked if the age range was 
18-20 years old, 
replied that the women were maybe younger but it 
was hard to tell because of make-up and the model style photographs. 
did not recall if MAXWELL took nude photographs. 
was not 
sure if anyone other than 
took photographs. At the time 
stopped working for them, the binders were still at MAXWELL's house. 
MAXWELL sold the New York house at one point and 
thought the real 
estate agent had possibly taken photographs of MAXWELL'S office. 
had 
In regards to the storage of contact information, 
would get the 
phone numbers for 
made her own contact list that she typed 
up. 
printed a few copies and put them in a desk. When 
came 
back to New York, these were sometimes missing. 
The notebooks had massage sections, but 
never called from there. 
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only called people from the contact information given to her by 
and the contact list 
had made from contacts given to her by 
gave 
phone numbers. 
was not sure where 
got the information from. 
contact list was created by hand 
then typed up in a word document in Palm Beach. 
typed up and 
printed a few and stored them in a drawer. 
recalled the list was 
missing one time or 
had thrown it out because it was crumpled in the 
trash can. 
was at a computer in Palm Beach at a desk near the 
living room that she and 
used for work. 
created a digital 
copy for herself. 
was not sure if anyone else had a digital contact 
list for massages. 
thought the contact books for massages seemed 
outdated. 
(Agent note: 
was shown a document titled "Masseusses". This 
document is attached in a 1A.) 
did not recognize this document. 
did not format her document how this one was formatted; 
underlined the names. 
thought there were approximately 10 names on 
the document she created but thought there may have been more than one 
person on each line like having referrals listed. 
described there being message books around the house that had a 
page that copied itself, notepads, and contact numbers and information. 
Some of these were kept in the pantry behind the kitchen. There were white 
notepads throughout EPSTEIN's home that had "Jeffrey Epstein" and "Ghislaine 
Maxwell" written on them. Messages were kept on these notepads. 
Phone numbers were kept in a system they used called Citrix. People's 
numbers were also kept in books. MAXWELL had books with a black cover 
throughout the house and EPSTEIN had books with a colorful cover throughout 
the house. There were multiple copies of the books throughout the house. 
believed that both sets of books had contact information for 
massages. The contact information for massages was organized by location. 
remembered skimming through the books and seeing this. MAXWELL's 
black books were very simple as they were just black and white with simple 
font. 
believed EPSTEIN's colorful books were black and white inside 
and simple as well, but the font was slightly larger. 
advised she 
may be able to recognize the books if she saw them; she has a photographic 
memory. [Agent note: At this point in the interview, 
was shown a 
document.] 
recalled this document to be one of MAXWELL's contact 
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books. 
also recalled that the font for EPSTEIN would have been 
larger. The contact books were printed and not updated. 
was given 
a project to update EPSTEIN's books; she used the Citrix system to gather 
the numbers from in order to update the books. 
did not recall being 
asked to update MAXWELL'S contact books. During the time that 
worked for EPSTEIN she did not recall anyone switching the books out. 
When 
was asked if she recalled someone asking her to gather items 
from the Palm Beach house, she stated yes. 
and EPSTEIN told her to 
go to Palm Beach to meet someone to hand over the contact books and 
computers. EPSTEIN, 
) and 
flew into 
Miami. 
was told to stay with 
while EPSTEIN and 
had a 
meeting. 
thought the meeting was held at what is now called the 
SOHO HOUSE HOTEL. 
thought EPSTEIN was involved in the construction 
of the hotel. 
recalled 
telling her to meet a gentleman and 
may have called before she met him. 
recalled the 
conversation she had with EPSTEIN was where he told her that something 
happened to his detriment and she needed to gather the stuff from the 
house. 
thought she was meeting with a police officer or 
investigator. 
to the island. When 
arrived at the Palm Beach house, JANUSZ was 
there and he helped her gather items. 
gathered the contact books. 
recalled definitely gathering EPSTEIN's books, but she could not 
recall if she grabbed all of MAXWELL's books. 
thought she gave both 
sets to the gentleman. When the gentleman left, JANUSZ called and said that 
he found a book, so 
called the gentleman back to hand it over. 
recalled the gentleman to be 
thought this 
was around October 6, because it was the day before her birthday. 
also recalled stopping at a gas station and found a record of the stop on 
her bank statement. 
had anxiety and stress while working for 
EPSTEIN. 
drove to Palm Beach, while 
and EPSTEIN flew on 
recalled 
telling her to do the same thing on the island. 
told 
to remove the contact books from the island and take 
them to New York. 
thought she may have asked 
where all the 
books were stored because there were so many buildings. This was possibly a 
couple weeks after 
had already removed the books and computers from 
Palm Beach. 
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In Palm Beach, each desk had a computer. 
removed the computer 
from EPSTEIN's office (the cabana by the pool), along with the computer that 
she and 
used and the computer from MAXWELL's office. There was a 
stationary computer that security used that 
did not remove from the 
house. 
removed the books from the island and took them to New York. 
When 
returned to New York, she gave the books to 
thought 
left the office with the books. This was around the time 
that 
had been given the assignment to update the books. 
asked 
what to do with the printouts of the contact numbers. 
told 
to shred it. 
did not recall why 
told her to 
shred it. 
just recalled EPSTEIN mentioning that something was 
stolen or compromised. 
remembered EPSTEIN referring to visas and 
immigration. 
did not remember if she discussed this with anyone 
afterwards. 
recalled an individual named MARK who was the IT person they 
would call if they had computer issues. 
did not know if MARK worked 
for WEXNER. 
thought MARK may have knowledge about the database they 
used. 
recalled MAXWELL being somewhat intimately involved in EPSTEIN's 
life. MAXWELL was "very much present". MAXWELL had two assistants and she 
was "Sort of like a boss". MAXWELL was one of EPSTEIN's friends and ex-
girlfriends. EPSTEIN kept certain people around his life, including MAXWELL 
and EVA DUBIN, who was an ex-girlfriend. 
was also very close to 
EPSTEIN. 
thought 
and MAXWELL were close as MAXWELL took 
to some events. 
recalled that EPSTEIN bought 
a nice 
fur for Christmas and it was to be kept at MAXWELL's home. MAXWELL was in 
every detail. MAXWELL questioned the staff in New York. When MAXWELL 
visited EPSTEIN's different homes, she seemed more like an owner. EPSTEIN 
and MAXWELL were close. 
recalled EPSTEIN telling her that he 
delivered the news of MAXWELL's father's death to her. MAXWELL had drivers 
and staff who thought she was not nice. 
recalled a couple that 
worked for EPSTEIN and 
saw the woman crying when she came in because 
MAXWELL said something mean to her. MAXWELL seemed like EPSTEIN's person. 
recalled that there was a couch on display at a store and the store 
did not want to sell it. EPSTEIN said to have MAXWELL deal with it. 
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There was a masseuse in Palm Beach, 
, who stayed at the New York 
apartment. EPSTEIN helped 
get an internship with a teenage 
magazine. MAXWELL was in charge of managing the apartment. 
recalled that when 
left the apartment, there was something missing 
from the apartment and MAXWELL said that 
must have took it. 
(Agent note: At this point in the interview 
was shown a document. 
This document is attached in a IA.] 
recognized the document as 
being a printed copy from the Citrix database. 
was not sure which 
of the books this would have come from. This would have been managed by 
believed MAXWELL would have had knowledge of the massages. 
MAXWELL managed EPSTEIN's houses and was very much present. Any person that 
was in the houses would have knowledge of EPSTEIN's schedule and massages. 
People spoke freely; someone may have said that EPSTEIN was getting a 
massage. People walked through the kitchen and sometimes there was a girl 
with another girl there. One girl went upstairs while another stayed in the 
kitchen. 
recalled there was a chiropractor at the house and gave an 
appointment to a girl that was there. 
did not know what MAXWELL got out of staying with EPSTEIN. To 
it seemed that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL shared assets. 
recalled 
a time where EPSTEIN bought a new helicopter and became upset because it was 
shaking. He blamed it on MAXWELL. MAXWELL seemed like family to EPSTEIN. 
EVA was also like family 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN seemed to have a family like relationship. 
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