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that's pretty much where we start off. 
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Would the Grand Jury like 
to maintain the records 
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that we received in response to the subpoenas? 
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A GRAND JUROR: Maintain versus what? 
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A GRAND JUROR: What is our choice? 
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I don't know that there is. I 
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guess I could maintain them, but I don't believe we 
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have secure storage in here. 
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would you like 5, 
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maintain custody? 
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A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 
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: You should have something to 
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swear her in as a custodian. 
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(The witness was sworn in as the custodian of 
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: Thank you, ladies and 
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gentlemen, I am the last person for today, so you 
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guys are free to go and we will see you probably in 
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a couple of weeks, we will be seeing a lot of you. 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
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IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
APPEARANCES: 
ESQUIRE 
Federal Grand Jury, 07-103 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
February 27, 2007 
Assistant United States Attorney 
Foreperson 
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having been duly sworn by the grand jury foreperson, 
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Good morning, 
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you restate and spell your name for the record. 
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It's 
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Can you remind the grand jury who you are 
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employed by? 
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The FBI. 
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I know that you testified here a few weeks ago. 
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Was there anything from that testimony that you wanted to 
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correct? 
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I did. I was asked by one of you Mr. Epstein's 
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age, and I confused him with another individual in another 
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one of my cases. His birthdate is January 20, 1953. We 
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are looking at the time period of 2004 and 2005. So 
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Mr. Epstein would have been about 51 or 52-years-old, and 
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I believe I told you he was 45. So at the time we're 
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looking during this investigation, he is 51 or 52. 
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, how did this case first come 
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In March of 2005,
 our youngest 
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identified victim -- 
called the Palm Beach 
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police department and reported that she believed that her 
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had been molested by a male that resided in 
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the town of Palm Beach. 
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So today we are going to talk about 
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Yes. 
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And we are using her initial to protect her 
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identity, correct? 
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Yes. 
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Can you tell the grand jury 
date of 
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birth? 
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birthday is 
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And you mentioned that the call came in ttom 
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in March of 2005, correct? 
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Yes. 
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So how old was 
at that time? 
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She was 14. 
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Where does 
live? 
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lives 
in the Loxahatchee-Royal Palm Beach 
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attending? 
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What year was she in school? 
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You mentioned that her 
Palm Beach police department. What 
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called the 
police 
did the 
call? 
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They wanted to interview 
I believe it was 
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attending 
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school at that time, 
interviewed 
at 
of what took place. 
which I think was 
They 
d wanted to get her side 
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Because we'll be referring to this throughout, 
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what was the name of the detective who conducted that 
first interview? 
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Detective 
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So in March of 2005, detective 
talked with 
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interviewed at any other times? 
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Yes. She was interviewed -- they talked to her 
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again. She placed some controlled calls for them later 
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that month, we will talk about that later. As well as 
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she was interviewed about a year later in July of 2006. 
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Not interviewed, but she testified before the grand jury 
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for the State of Florida. So she was interviewed by 
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detective Pagan in March of 2005, and then about a year or 
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three or four months later, in July of 2006, she testified 
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before a grand jury with the State of Florida. 
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In preparation for your appearance today, did 
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you have a chance to interview 
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Yes, I did. 
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And when was that? 
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Last night. 
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Back in March of 2005, you mentioned that 
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detective 
met with 
on or more than one 
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occasion? 
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Yes. 
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If you could give us sort of an overview of what 
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reported during these interviews, and then if there 
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are specific discrepancies or differences, we will return 
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to those later. 
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All right. On February 5, 2005, it was a 
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Saturday, and 
was at 
house, 
She 
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was there with her boyfriend, 
because these 
And 
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are minors, we'll refer to them without using their last 
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They were at 
residence, and 
is 
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boyfriend, which is also 
cousin. So they 
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were all at 
house, and 
on the phone with 
was 
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an individual that prefers to as the assistant. 
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described the assistant as a tall blonde. 
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So throughout I'll refer to her as the blonde lady, if 
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that's okay. 
was unable to recall her name. So 
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describing 
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on the phone 
to the lady on 
phone, 
and 
(describing 
when 
gets off the 
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both want to know why 
was being described to 
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this lady on the phone. Zach becomes upset when 
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asks 
if she would like to go to Palm Beach and give a 
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man a massage that she knows. 
agrees, and this 
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upsets'''. and an argument ensues wherell'Illand 
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go into the bathroom and they argue outside the presence 
of 
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Let me stop you there. Was 
supposed to be 
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paid for giving this massage? 
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Yes. 
told 
that she would be paid 
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$200 or $300, I believe. 
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You mentioned that 
is 
boyfriend, and 
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cousin, correct? 
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Yes. 
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What was 
idea about why they were 
arguing? 
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She has told us that she believed that 
must 
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have known what 
was doing for this man and the work 
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that 
did for Mr. Epstein, and that is why 
was 
so upset. 
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decides to go. 
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Because she wanted to make the $200 or $300? 
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Yes. 
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So tell us then what happened after that 
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meeting? 
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The next day, February 6 -- they discussed that 
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phone records two calls that were placed. One was placed 
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Kellin's cell phone, and the other was placed to 
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Jeffrey Epstein's residence the night of February 5. 
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Yes. 
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have this argument. What does 
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evening about going the next day. We do have on 
The next day 
is contacted a couple of times 
before 
arrives. Each time prior to 
being 
contacted by 
a call is placed by 
to 
Kellin's cell phone. 
Kellin, I should tell you, is 
Jeffrey's assistant. 
So on Sunday a call was placed to 
Kellin, 
and then shortly after that a call was made to 
That
same series occurs again, but this timeillilliplaces a 
call to Mr. Epstein's residence, and then 
is called 
again. 
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Mr. Epstein's house. 
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is driving with 
and 
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know how they were sitting? 
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You know, I'm not sure how they were sitting, 
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drove, 
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was the driver. I'm not sure exactly the 
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truck. 
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was able to describe how they travelled 
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to the island of Palm Beach? 
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Yes. She gave directions -- you know, the best 
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that she could on how she was able to come to 
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Mr. Epstein's residence. 
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happened? 
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I should have mentioned that either the night 
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before or the day of, there were some things that 
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One, she tells 
that she is to tell, if 
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school, that she's in the 12th grade, and I believe it was 
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Wellington High School that she was to say that she went 
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tells her that she 
may possibly be asked to take her clothes off. She also 
tells her that she can stay in her bra, but she may be 
asked to take her clothes off. And 
told us last 
night that that's when she knew for the first time that 
she might have to possibly remove her clothes. 
At this point they proceed to enter the 
residence. =describes him as a security person. He 
approached and asked what they were doing there, and 
said they were there to see Mr. Epstein, or see Jeffrey. 
He allowed them entry into the kitchen area by the pool, 
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describes that area. So now 
and 
are all sitting in the kitchen. A short time goes 
by and Mr. Epstein, as well as the assistant, enter the 
kitchen. 
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And I know that you mentioned that 
did not 
know the name of the lady who was there in the kitchen, 
correct? 
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Right. 
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She just described her as a blonde, tall lady? 
Yes. 
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that day? 
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also interviewed about what happened 
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Yes, she did. 
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Yes. 
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What happened then? 
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follows the blonde lady upstairs to 
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Mr. Epstein's bedroom. The blonde lady proceeds to take 
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out a massage table and set it up, prepare it. She also 
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takes out some lotions to be used during the massage. 
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told me last night that the blonde lady asked her to 
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remove her clothing, and then left the room and said that 
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Mr. Epstein would be in shortly. 
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what happened after she left the room? 
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Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein does come into 
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the room and shakes 
s hand. 
told us last night 
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that Mr. Epstein told her to remove her clothing. He 
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leaves the room and comes back in just a towel, and he 
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tells her again to -- she is at that point -- when he 
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her pants off. So she took her pants off. So now she's 
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in her bra and underwear. 
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At some point did Sage tell any of the people 
who interviewed her what was running through her mind? 
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She stated at one point that she was upstairs 
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with him, with the man, and that Maas 
downstairs. I 
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do? She's downstairs, 
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I'm upstairs." So she did what she was asked to do. 
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So now you mention that Mr. Epstein is here 
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wearing just a towel, and 
has removed both her shirt 
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and her pants, is that correct? 
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Yes. 
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Tell us what happens then? 
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Mr. Epstein gets on the massage table lying on 
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his stomach and instructs 
how to do the massage. He 
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tells her to put some lotion on her hand and instructs her 
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on how to actually perform the massage. At one point 
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during the massage he tells ■ 
that she would be more 
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comfortable to get on top of him, so 
gets on top of 
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him and straddles Mr. Epstein's back. 
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describes it is Mr. Epstein is 
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laying on the table, he has a towel covering his bottom, 
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of sitting -- it sounds like sitting on his rear end, but 
with part of her skin touching him -- the front of him, 
but he had a towel across his bottom. 
What happens as she is providing the massage to 
his back? 
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The massage goes on. She said the entire 
massage lasted anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes. At one 
point Mr. Epstein excuses himself for a few minutes, one 
or two minutes briefly. 
states that she can hear 
Mr. Epstein moaning or groaning, and states that she 
believes he was, in her words, 'wacking off' or 
masturbating. She didn't say masturbating, she said 
'wacking off.' I am going to use that she believes he was 
masturbating. 
Then he returns. At this point he gets back on 
the table lying on his back and asks her to start 
massaging his chest. So she begins to massage his chest. 
Q 
Does he keep the towel on? 
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No, at this point the towel is removed. When he 
comes back and he gets back on the table, the towel is 
removed and she is massaging his chest. 
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What does he do as she is massaging his chest? 
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He moves his hand up and down his penis. So he 
continued to masturbate on the table. He asked 
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extra $100. He tells her that it would not involve doing 
a massage. 
agrees. He asked her if he could use a 
vibrator on her, and she does agree. 
describes it as 
a purple vibrator that was used 
said this goes on for about ten minutes. 
At some point during that massage the vibrator 
is not used anymore and 
takes place. 
describes him 
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What did she say happened when Mr. Epstein 
digitally penetrated her? 
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The vibrator is used. At some point he does 
her. And these are her words. She 
looks at him kind of funny, and he sarcastically -- which 
is her word -- he sarcastically says, "What's the matter?" 
And she at that point just kind of looks away, and he 
continues on with the 
In the last 
three to four minutes of that, he begins to masturbate 
again. 
At the conclusion of the sexual activity, 
Mr. Epstein wipes his penis off with a towel. 
was 
asked if he ejaculated. She did not see him ejaculate, 
but saw him wipe his penis off with a towel. 
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Was 
able to provide a physical description 
of Mr. Epstein? 
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Yes. 
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Including of his penis? 
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was she also able to provide a description of 
her surroundings in that massage area? 
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Yes. 
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Was that description accurate? 
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Yes. According to other testimony we have 
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gotten from other victims, yes. 
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And a search was performed on Mr. Epstein's 
house? 
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Yes. The Palm Beach police department did 
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perform a search, and several of the items that were 
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described were found in the house. 
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After Mr. Epstein wiped himself off, what 
happened? 
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He told 
that she was getting the extra 
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hundred dollars because he was allowed to use the vibrator 
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on her and 
The massage had been 
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concluded, the sexual activity had been concluded. He 
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gets up and leaves for a brief moment of time and comes 
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back with S300 and pays 
the $300. I believe he told 
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that she could see herself out. 
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Before we leave that room, when 
was either 
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being directed to the room or was inside that room where 
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She noted seeing several naked pictures of girls 
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in the room, a mural or pictures of naked girls either 
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exposing their breasts or completely naked. 
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While the massage was going on, did Mr. Epstein 
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talk to 
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Yes, he did. 
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And did he talk about sexual conquests with 
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girls? 
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Yes, he did. 
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Once Mr. Epstein has provided 
with the 
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$300, what did she do? 
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She went back downstairs and she, 
and 
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leave the residence. In the car they ask 
how 
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much money she has made, and she tells them $300. 
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wants to see the money. She shows the money to 
and 
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asks what did she do. At that point 
tells her 
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that he fingered her, as well as used a vibrator. 
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When they left the house, where did they go? 
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When they left the house, they were on their way 
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to a mall to go shopping with the money that they had 
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received from Mr. Epstein. 
had told 
the night 
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before that she needed some shoes and wanted to go to the 
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mall, and she was going to Mr. Epstein's to pick up some 
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Mr. Epstein's house that day, and that they were going to 
go shopping after she got her money, and that 
could 
make some money. 
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During that ride, did 
realize that 
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received money from Mr. Epstein? 
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Yes. At some point 
knows that 
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received $200, but is unsure that 
ever gave a 
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massage. So at that particular time 
did not know why 
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she had gotten the $200, because she didn't think that 
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had had time to give a massage. 
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In 
interview, did she explain what she 
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got the $200 for? 
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told the Palm Beach police department in 
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her interview that she received her $200 for bringing 
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to the house. 
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You mentioned that there were these three 
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different time periods that 
was interviewed: Shortly 
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after the events, at the time of the state grand jury 
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proceedings, and when you met with her, correct? 
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Yes. 
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And there were some discrepancies between the 
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different interviews. Can you explain some of those to 
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the grand jury. 
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Before we go and get to that, I want to make 
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was told in the 
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said that, but I 
learned that 
interview that 
department and 
want to make sure you know that we first 
had bee 
Dy listening to the 
was conducted between the Palm Beach police 
, not from 
. When I talk later, I 
just want to make sure you realize that that had not 
initially come out in 
interview, but through the 
interview with 
So going back. I'm sorry, discrepancies? 
Q 
Yes. 
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I met with ■ 
last night to discuss some of 
the discrepancies when looking at what she had talked to 
detective 
about in March of 2005 and what she had 
testified to in the grand jury in July of 2006. Reading 
the testimony and listening to the tapes, or reading the 
transcript, there were a few discrepancies. 
One of the first ones we talked about was what 
had told her about going to Mr. Epstein's house. 
She tells detective 
that she was told about the 
massage, told about getting $200, but that she was not 
told that she would have to take her clothes off. She 
didn't know she would have to perform the massage naked. 
When I asked her last night that question, she 
told me that when she got to the house prior to going into 
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