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have a financial stake --
THE COURT: That's what you argue to the jury. 
MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, one other thing. If she 
did, in fact, give a statement to law enforcement in May of 
2019, it hasn't been disclosed to us. 
MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. My understanding, I was at 
that very first meeting. I can double-check my notes, which we 
produced to the defense, it is September 2019. 
THE COURT: Do you want to refresh her recollection on 
the date or you don't have any notes from May 2099? 
MS. MOE: I do not. 
THE COURT: You're certainly welcome to inquire. 
MS. MENNINGER: Certainly, your Honor. On her dates. 
MS. MOE: I'm sorry. My colleague is -- again, I 
don't remember this off the top of my head, but 
MS. COMEY: Your Honor, I believe what is possibly 
happening in the witness's answer about May 2019 is that I 
believe before the September 2019 interview, FBI agents 
approached this witness and asked her if she was willing to be 
interviewed. She declined. And I believe that may have 
happened around May of 2019. So she may be confusing that as 
the first time she ever spoke with the FBI. But she was not 
substantively interviewed and did not give substantive 
statements until September of 2019. 
THE COURT: All right. Not sealed. 
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THE COURT: You may proceed, Ms. Moe. 
MS. MOE: Thank you, your Honor. 
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BY MS. MOE: 
Q. 
based on your understanding, will the jury's verdict 
in this case affect the award that you received from the fund? 
A. No. 
THE COURT: I'll just instruct the jury the witness is 
not providing legal instruction, but responding to the question 
of her understanding. 
MS. MOE: Thank you, your Honor. 
Q. And just to be clear, do you have any financial stake in 
the outcome of this trial? 
A. No. 
Q. Before this trial, have you ever publicly revealed your 
identity as a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell? 
A. No. 
Q. Do you want the public to know your true identity? 
A. No. 
Q. Why is it important to you to remain anonymous? 
A. Because I've always just wanted to put this past me. 
moved on with my life. I am proud that I have my own career, 
my own husband, my own children, and I work in the 
And victim shaming is still very 
present to this day. And I was also afraid that it was going 
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to affect my career if somebody looks at me and that's all they 
see and that they won't hire me based on that. So I didn't 
really want any part of it; I just wanted it to go away. 
MS. MOE: Your Honor, if I could just have one moment. 
THE COURT: You may. 
(Counsel conferred) 
MS. MOE: Nothing further, your Honor. 
THE COURT: All right. Thank you. 
Ms. Menninger, you may begin your cross-examination. 
MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, consistent with past 
practice, I have a binder to provide to the witness in case 
electronics don't work. 
THE COURT: Okay. Ms. Moe? 
MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. So long as we are provided 
a copy with the item before they are reviewed, we have no 
objection. 
THE COURT: Consistent with how we've been proceeding, 
you will be. Thank you. You may approach. 
MS. MENNINGER: May I take off my mask, your Honor? 
THE COURT: Yes, you may. 
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